Cayman GTS

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Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Physically the exhaust may be the same, but the fuelling map must be different to give the enhanced crackles and burbles. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love them! biggrin

giles panizzi

323 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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pete.g said:
My previous car is for sale at OPC Belfast for a realistic price - about £5k below list price for June 2016 car, 7200 miles.
Pete - what did yoU get instead? Nice looking GTS!

pete.g

1,527 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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giles panizzi said:
pete.g said:
My previous car is for sale at OPC Belfast for a realistic price - about £5k below list price for June 2016 car, 7200 miles.
Pete - what did yoU get instead? Nice looking GTS!
I'm just going to use my Land Cruiser for the winter and look around for something in the Spring - it was a wrench letting it go, but it was the right thing for me to do just at the moment.

shiggy

66 posts

164 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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in my mind i want a GTS.

car being considered are:

https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...

http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...

be appreciated if people from experience can comment on the pros' and cons' of either..

while i have done extensive research, always good to hear from people who have had them...

also, any idea on what the original purchases prices would have been ?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Both cars are at 15,000m and have these optional extras:

Carmine paint
GTS interior kit
Heated seats
Nav
PDK
Climate
PDLS+
Phone
DAB
Front and rear sensors
Interior light package

JZM car (£60,900) also has:

Bose
Auto wipers
GTS exterior kit (black painted plastics)
Leather steering column cover
Aluminium fuel cap
PASM

OPC car (£57,000) also has:

Sport Techno wheels
18-way seats
Adaptive cruise
Black wheels
Burmester
X73 suspension
Leather wheel and PDK knob

Both are highly specced, probably high £60s/£70k when new. The key differences are:

JZM car: auto wipers, no cruise, PASM (note: cruise cannot easily be added by an OPC due to the leather shroud on the steering column)
OPC car: X73 suspension, non-alcantara wheel and knob

Suspension is the most important - do you want PASM or X73?

pete.g

1,527 posts

205 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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JZM car has already had 3 owners in two years, OPC car two in three years.

Are they both ex-demo? Carmine Red and heavy spec might hint at that, the car was launched in 2014, so the Solihull car could be a launch vehicle.

Ask to see the previous owners - if the first owner is an OPC or OPC parent company then you are looking at the possibility that its early life involved test drives.

The number of owners is definitely an issue when buying a car, simply because it's an issue when selling it later.

I would wholeheartedly back your choice, I enjoyed every minute of owning one, but at that sort of financial commitment I would be looking for something with no niggling doubts.

I presume you have your heart set on Carmine - this will limit your options even further. With the black highlights it also looks good in white (metallic and non-metallic) and yellow, which not all cars do, and Guards Red is always a classic choice.



Edited by pete.g on Friday 24th November 11:43

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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The OPC car, having a non-alcantara wheel, might be worth checking in case it was a PEC car.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

224 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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pete.g said:
The number of owners is definitely an issue when buying a car, simply because it's an issue when selling it later.
How true is that of cars like this? Not being funny - serious question. If it were a Golf, then I would worry - but 2/3 owners in 3 years on a (arguably seasonal use) sports car should not really make that much difference...unless we start talking about 4/5/6/etc.

The new owner of my CGTS became owner #3. The first owner kept it for a couple of years and I owned for 9 months. During both of those ownerships the car wanted for nothing. Full services, OPC care, warranty issues resolved, etc etc. The first owner had 3 cars of which the CGTS was his third so was not getting much use. My ownership was shorter than I would have liked due to a change in the other half's career path (in that she has essentially gone back to school full time for a while).

To lean on the 'flipper' side of things, how many GT3/GT2/GT3RS/GT4 models were <1yr old with already two owners on the V5? I bet quite a few.

People are always right to check a car's history, but condition, maintenance proof and a decent warranty should really trump all else with the cars above. IMHO of course! smile

shiggy

66 posts

164 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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not set on carmine red but its oddly appealing. the grail' colour of agate grey is appealing but white is a no go..

it will be used a weekend driver and intentions to take it through europe next year...

i am minded to hit both of them with heavy discount offers...the OPC car appeals as an alcantara wheel can easily be added...cruise as mentioned cannot..

looking at jzm this weekend (to see if she can touch the peddles) and then will make effort to go and look at the OPC car...

owners i appreciate are a big thing but finding a one owner GTS is proving very difficult..

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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JZM have had that car a while I think, probably because it's overpriced. I think the OPC car is a little cheap, possibly because it hasn't sold for a while either. The lack of alcantara wheel may have something to do with it? I'd definitely check it wasn't a PEC car.

Mario149

7,750 posts

177 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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pete.g said:
shiggy said:
on the look for a GTS but being my first foray i am amazed at some of the pricing.

looking at the GTS in Solihull Porsche and JZM...

age apart i am staggered how little movement there appears to be on pricing..
My previous car is for sale at OPC Belfast for a realistic price - about £5k below list price for June 2016 car, 7200 miles.
My 2015 BGTS went up at OPC Portsmouth for something like £1K under list (£66K from memory) back in April with just under 10K miles on and sold within about 3 weeks eek Spec included: buckets, PASM, PDK, GTS interior pack, red roof, DBM paint, climate control, Carrera classic wheels and Bose.




Edited by Mario149 on Friday 24th November 14:37

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

224 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Christ, I obviously ripped myself off! My OPC sold my car to its new owner within 2 hours of me agreeing a sale price for it!

shiggy

66 posts

164 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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JZM looks like a £57k'ish car..

OPC totals around £4k more of extras over JZM

decisions decisions...


pete.g

1,527 posts

205 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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RPM Technik have three in stock - all good specs, inc PCCB and bucket seats on the yellow one.

Might be worth a visit to do comparisons.

Might also be worth a wanted ad - someone in an Agate Grey car might be triggered into selling.

shiggy

66 posts

164 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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defo not after yellow..

seen them and may drop in but again pricing looks rich !

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

90 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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shiggy said:
defo not after yellow..

seen them and may drop in but again pricing looks rich !
Love the yellow and seen that car that has top spec but seemingly yellow is a very marmite colour

Cblair246

200 posts

121 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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My Sapphire blue GTS (manual) is going back next week so if someone is after a drivers spec 981 then I'd keep an eye out for it as it's immaculate and only done 6k miles in almost 2 years. It'll be getting sold via Porsche Aberdeen.

Been a great car and looking back to my attitude to when the "Gayman" was 1st released, I've done a 180 degrees and think it's a truly fantastic car for the cash. You could easily keep up with other much more powerful machines and the engine sounded great. Just with the bloody gears were a bit shorter, over 100 mph in 3rd is too much Mr Porsche!

Mario149

7,750 posts

177 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Cblair246 said:
My Sapphire blue GTS (manual) is going back next week so if someone is after a drivers spec 981 then I'd keep an eye out for it as it's immaculate and only done 6k miles in almost 2 years. It'll be getting sold via Porsche Aberdeen.

Been a great car and looking back to my attitude to when the "Gayman" was 1st released, I've done a 180 degrees and think it's a truly fantastic car for the cash. You could easily keep up with other much more powerful machines and the engine sounded great. Just with the bloody gears were a bit shorter, over 100 mph in 3rd is too much Mr Porsche!
yes Amen. I could be tempted back into one in a couple of years if a sensibly priced shorter final drive (or second and third) conversion is available (think it might be in the US already?)


Edited by Mario149 on Friday 24th November 19:13

Joehow

569 posts

114 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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shiggy said:
JZM looks like a £57k'ish car..

OPC totals around £4k more of extras over JZM

decisions decisions...
JZM car is my old GTS. Its had paint correction and ceramic sealant. Also serviced recently and new rear tyres.

Came from OPC tonbridge, gaurentee you the JZM car ia far cleaner than most OPC cars.

I still miss it abit

Joehow

569 posts

114 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Twinfan said:
Both cars are at 15,000m and have these optional extras:

Carmine paint
GTS interior kit
Heated seats
Nav
PDK
Climate
PDLS+
Phone
DAB
Front and rear sensors
Interior light package

JZM car (£60,900) also has:

Bose
Auto wipers
GTS exterior kit (black painted plastics)
Leather steering column cover
Aluminium fuel cap
PASM

OPC car (£57,000) also has:

Sport Techno wheels
18-way seats
Adaptive cruise
Black wheels
Burmester
X73 suspension
Leather wheel and PDK knob

Both are highly specced, probably high £60s/£70k when new. The key differences are:

JZM car: auto wipers, no cruise, PASM (note: cruise cannot easily be added by an OPC due to the leather shroud on the steering column)
OPC car: X73 suspension, non-alcantara wheel and knob

Suspension is the most important - do you want PASM or X73?
Cruise control isnt correct - theres a section outlined that will punch out - think removing an old tax disc from the paper style thing.

£500 quoted to do before I sold it