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giles panizzi said:
pete.g said:
My previous car is for sale at OPC Belfast for a realistic price - about £5k below list price for June 2016 car, 7200 miles.
Pete - what did yoU get instead? Nice looking GTS!in my mind i want a GTS.
car being considered are:
https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...
http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...
be appreciated if people from experience can comment on the pros' and cons' of either..
while i have done extensive research, always good to hear from people who have had them...
also, any idea on what the original purchases prices would have been ?
car being considered are:
https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...
http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...
be appreciated if people from experience can comment on the pros' and cons' of either..
while i have done extensive research, always good to hear from people who have had them...
also, any idea on what the original purchases prices would have been ?
Both cars are at 15,000m and have these optional extras:
Carmine paint
GTS interior kit
Heated seats
Nav
PDK
Climate
PDLS+
Phone
DAB
Front and rear sensors
Interior light package
JZM car (£60,900) also has:
Bose
Auto wipers
GTS exterior kit (black painted plastics)
Leather steering column cover
Aluminium fuel cap
PASM
OPC car (£57,000) also has:
Sport Techno wheels
18-way seats
Adaptive cruise
Black wheels
Burmester
X73 suspension
Leather wheel and PDK knob
Both are highly specced, probably high £60s/£70k when new. The key differences are:
JZM car: auto wipers, no cruise, PASM (note: cruise cannot easily be added by an OPC due to the leather shroud on the steering column)
OPC car: X73 suspension, non-alcantara wheel and knob
Suspension is the most important - do you want PASM or X73?
Carmine paint
GTS interior kit
Heated seats
Nav
PDK
Climate
PDLS+
Phone
DAB
Front and rear sensors
Interior light package
JZM car (£60,900) also has:
Bose
Auto wipers
GTS exterior kit (black painted plastics)
Leather steering column cover
Aluminium fuel cap
PASM
OPC car (£57,000) also has:
Sport Techno wheels
18-way seats
Adaptive cruise
Black wheels
Burmester
X73 suspension
Leather wheel and PDK knob
Both are highly specced, probably high £60s/£70k when new. The key differences are:
JZM car: auto wipers, no cruise, PASM (note: cruise cannot easily be added by an OPC due to the leather shroud on the steering column)
OPC car: X73 suspension, non-alcantara wheel and knob
Suspension is the most important - do you want PASM or X73?
JZM car has already had 3 owners in two years, OPC car two in three years.
Are they both ex-demo? Carmine Red and heavy spec might hint at that, the car was launched in 2014, so the Solihull car could be a launch vehicle.
Ask to see the previous owners - if the first owner is an OPC or OPC parent company then you are looking at the possibility that its early life involved test drives.
The number of owners is definitely an issue when buying a car, simply because it's an issue when selling it later.
I would wholeheartedly back your choice, I enjoyed every minute of owning one, but at that sort of financial commitment I would be looking for something with no niggling doubts.
I presume you have your heart set on Carmine - this will limit your options even further. With the black highlights it also looks good in white (metallic and non-metallic) and yellow, which not all cars do, and Guards Red is always a classic choice.
Are they both ex-demo? Carmine Red and heavy spec might hint at that, the car was launched in 2014, so the Solihull car could be a launch vehicle.
Ask to see the previous owners - if the first owner is an OPC or OPC parent company then you are looking at the possibility that its early life involved test drives.
The number of owners is definitely an issue when buying a car, simply because it's an issue when selling it later.
I would wholeheartedly back your choice, I enjoyed every minute of owning one, but at that sort of financial commitment I would be looking for something with no niggling doubts.
I presume you have your heart set on Carmine - this will limit your options even further. With the black highlights it also looks good in white (metallic and non-metallic) and yellow, which not all cars do, and Guards Red is always a classic choice.
Edited by pete.g on Friday 24th November 11:43
pete.g said:
The number of owners is definitely an issue when buying a car, simply because it's an issue when selling it later.
How true is that of cars like this? Not being funny - serious question. If it were a Golf, then I would worry - but 2/3 owners in 3 years on a (arguably seasonal use) sports car should not really make that much difference...unless we start talking about 4/5/6/etc.The new owner of my CGTS became owner #3. The first owner kept it for a couple of years and I owned for 9 months. During both of those ownerships the car wanted for nothing. Full services, OPC care, warranty issues resolved, etc etc. The first owner had 3 cars of which the CGTS was his third so was not getting much use. My ownership was shorter than I would have liked due to a change in the other half's career path (in that she has essentially gone back to school full time for a while).
To lean on the 'flipper' side of things, how many GT3/GT2/GT3RS/GT4 models were <1yr old with already two owners on the V5? I bet quite a few.
People are always right to check a car's history, but condition, maintenance proof and a decent warranty should really trump all else with the cars above. IMHO of course!
not set on carmine red but its oddly appealing. the grail' colour of agate grey is appealing but white is a no go..
it will be used a weekend driver and intentions to take it through europe next year...
i am minded to hit both of them with heavy discount offers...the OPC car appeals as an alcantara wheel can easily be added...cruise as mentioned cannot..
looking at jzm this weekend (to see if she can touch the peddles) and then will make effort to go and look at the OPC car...
owners i appreciate are a big thing but finding a one owner GTS is proving very difficult..
it will be used a weekend driver and intentions to take it through europe next year...
i am minded to hit both of them with heavy discount offers...the OPC car appeals as an alcantara wheel can easily be added...cruise as mentioned cannot..
looking at jzm this weekend (to see if she can touch the peddles) and then will make effort to go and look at the OPC car...
owners i appreciate are a big thing but finding a one owner GTS is proving very difficult..
pete.g said:
shiggy said:
on the look for a GTS but being my first foray i am amazed at some of the pricing.
looking at the GTS in Solihull Porsche and JZM...
age apart i am staggered how little movement there appears to be on pricing..
My previous car is for sale at OPC Belfast for a realistic price - about £5k below list price for June 2016 car, 7200 miles.looking at the GTS in Solihull Porsche and JZM...
age apart i am staggered how little movement there appears to be on pricing..
Edited by Mario149 on Friday 24th November 14:37
My Sapphire blue GTS (manual) is going back next week so if someone is after a drivers spec 981 then I'd keep an eye out for it as it's immaculate and only done 6k miles in almost 2 years. It'll be getting sold via Porsche Aberdeen.
Been a great car and looking back to my attitude to when the "Gayman" was 1st released, I've done a 180 degrees and think it's a truly fantastic car for the cash. You could easily keep up with other much more powerful machines and the engine sounded great. Just with the bloody gears were a bit shorter, over 100 mph in 3rd is too much Mr Porsche!
Been a great car and looking back to my attitude to when the "Gayman" was 1st released, I've done a 180 degrees and think it's a truly fantastic car for the cash. You could easily keep up with other much more powerful machines and the engine sounded great. Just with the bloody gears were a bit shorter, over 100 mph in 3rd is too much Mr Porsche!
Cblair246 said:
My Sapphire blue GTS (manual) is going back next week so if someone is after a drivers spec 981 then I'd keep an eye out for it as it's immaculate and only done 6k miles in almost 2 years. It'll be getting sold via Porsche Aberdeen.
Been a great car and looking back to my attitude to when the "Gayman" was 1st released, I've done a 180 degrees and think it's a truly fantastic car for the cash. You could easily keep up with other much more powerful machines and the engine sounded great. Just with the bloody gears were a bit shorter, over 100 mph in 3rd is too much Mr Porsche!
Amen. I could be tempted back into one in a couple of years if a sensibly priced shorter final drive (or second and third) conversion is available (think it might be in the US already?)Been a great car and looking back to my attitude to when the "Gayman" was 1st released, I've done a 180 degrees and think it's a truly fantastic car for the cash. You could easily keep up with other much more powerful machines and the engine sounded great. Just with the bloody gears were a bit shorter, over 100 mph in 3rd is too much Mr Porsche!
Edited by Mario149 on Friday 24th November 19:13
shiggy said:
JZM looks like a £57k'ish car..
OPC totals around £4k more of extras over JZM
decisions decisions...
JZM car is my old GTS. Its had paint correction and ceramic sealant. Also serviced recently and new rear tyres. OPC totals around £4k more of extras over JZM
decisions decisions...
Came from OPC tonbridge, gaurentee you the JZM car ia far cleaner than most OPC cars.
I still miss it abit
Twinfan said:
Both cars are at 15,000m and have these optional extras:
Carmine paint
GTS interior kit
Heated seats
Nav
PDK
Climate
PDLS+
Phone
DAB
Front and rear sensors
Interior light package
JZM car (£60,900) also has:
Bose
Auto wipers
GTS exterior kit (black painted plastics)
Leather steering column cover
Aluminium fuel cap
PASM
OPC car (£57,000) also has:
Sport Techno wheels
18-way seats
Adaptive cruise
Black wheels
Burmester
X73 suspension
Leather wheel and PDK knob
Both are highly specced, probably high £60s/£70k when new. The key differences are:
JZM car: auto wipers, no cruise, PASM (note: cruise cannot easily be added by an OPC due to the leather shroud on the steering column)
OPC car: X73 suspension, non-alcantara wheel and knob
Suspension is the most important - do you want PASM or X73?
Cruise control isnt correct - theres a section outlined that will punch out - think removing an old tax disc from the paper style thing. Carmine paint
GTS interior kit
Heated seats
Nav
PDK
Climate
PDLS+
Phone
DAB
Front and rear sensors
Interior light package
JZM car (£60,900) also has:
Bose
Auto wipers
GTS exterior kit (black painted plastics)
Leather steering column cover
Aluminium fuel cap
PASM
OPC car (£57,000) also has:
Sport Techno wheels
18-way seats
Adaptive cruise
Black wheels
Burmester
X73 suspension
Leather wheel and PDK knob
Both are highly specced, probably high £60s/£70k when new. The key differences are:
JZM car: auto wipers, no cruise, PASM (note: cruise cannot easily be added by an OPC due to the leather shroud on the steering column)
OPC car: X73 suspension, non-alcantara wheel and knob
Suspension is the most important - do you want PASM or X73?
£500 quoted to do before I sold it
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