Cayman GTS

[Yidwann]

priley said:

I thought I wanted a manual but a lovely Sapphire Blue car appeared with PDK and I'm now utterly sold. I have older manual cars but PDK allows the car to have so many personalities from effortlessly easing its way through slow moving traffic to B road weapon. In short it makes the car more useable and enjoyable for me; much more than a Sunday morning car.

Cheers, I need to get stuck in and take a PDK out for a good drive, I have not written it off because its PDK, was more just my desire to stick with a manual car! That looks like it will be a long long wait though.... at some point you have to forego something!

[Twinfan]

Definitely drive a PDK car and see what you think. Every time I've driven a PDK loan car I'm always really glad to get back in my manual CGTS. I just don't like them! There's something really satisfying about changing gear yourself in a road car, and the Porsche 'box is a thing of joy. Mine isn't a daily though so my needs are different to someone who gets stuck in traffic every day.

[testdrive_tv]

JayK12 said:

Guys, anyone not extended there warranty on the GTS? Anyone had issues inside / outside of warranty? My GTS is on 8500 miles and does about 3000 a year.

Cheers

Leaking air con rads (preventable), broken pse flap on one side were the big ones. Small ones were low cost parts electric seat button replaced, heating system changeover valves replaced as it wasn't giving hot air but other than that it's been fine. That's over 23k mls on a Boxster.

[testdrive_tv]

Twinfan said:

Definitely drive a PDK car and see what you think. Every time I've driven a PDK loan car I'm always really glad to get back in my manual CGTS. I just don't like them! There's something really satisfying about changing gear yourself in a road car, and the Porsche 'box is a thing of joy. Mine isn't a daily though so my needs are different to someone who gets stuck in traffic every day.

I know what you mean but the experience is spoiled a little by the in gear speeds. Frustratingly with the pdk you find that you change up a little earlier. I was saying earlier the 718 2.0 manual works well with the manual transmission.

[wuzznbuddy]

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

[Frrair]

Budflicker said:

Fizzbomb said:

I am currently driving my 79th 981, will never change.

Wow that’s just a lack of imagination

[testdrive_tv]

wuzznbuddy said:

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

I've driven both and went for a very well specified S. I put the change toward a nice daily.

The GTS is a little more special inside but I wanted the extended leather over alcantara anyway. It wears quickly in my experience.

The engine map is slightly different, giving a marginal increase at tbe top end and I think it makes the exhaust pop a little more on the overrun but it's marginal if the PSE is working properly. It can seize on the older cars.

The other engine difference is the sound symposer tube running from the airbox on the drivers side. Some like this some don't, I had it retrofitted as I like the extra induction roar it provides.

The GTS has different colour options, rear lights, and front and rear bumpers including lower diffuser.

Other than the above I think it's just specification that is available on the S, a bit of kudos from the badge and strong residual value. Saying that a well specified S holds its value well too.

If you pay the extra now you will get it back at the end regardless.

[Twinfan]

wuzznbuddy said:

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

Finding an S with Chrono, PASM, PSE, 20" wheels etc will be a little tricky, and resale appears to be better on the GTS, so if you can stretch to it the GTS is the better buy.

[Krobar]

wuzznbuddy said:

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

There's nothing much in it between the two to drive (GTS is a bit more special inside and out but this is mainly cosmetic) but make sure that the handling type options are the same on the S as the GTS you liked. PASM or X73 are quite different; would worry about Chrono too much.

[Paul_D]

testdrive_tv said:

wuzznbuddy said:

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

I've driven both and went for a very well specified S. I put the change toward a nice daily.

The GTS is a little more special inside but I wanted the extended leather over alcantara anyway. It wears quickly in my experience.

The engine map is slightly different, giving a marginal increase at tbe top end and I think it makes the exhaust pop a little more on the overrun but it's marginal if the PSE is working properly. It can seize on the older cars.

The other engine difference is the sound symposer tube running from the airbox on the drivers side. Some like this some don't, I had it retrofitted as I like the extra induction roar it provides.

The GTS has different colour options, rear lights, and front and rear bumpers including lower diffuser.

Other than the above I think it's just specification that is available on the S, a bit of kudos from the badge and strong residual value. Saying that a well specified S holds its value well too.

If you pay the extra now you will get it back at the end regardless.






How and where do you get a symposer retrofitted. My s is missing it and cannot justify spending the extra 10k got a gt badge. Thanks

[Maxym]

Krobar said:

wuzznbuddy said:

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

There's nothing much in it between the two to drive (GTS is a bit more special inside and out but this is mainly cosmetic) but make sure that the handling type options are the same on the S as the GTS you liked. PASM or X73 are quite different; would worry about Chrono too much.

+1

[testdrive_tv]

Paul_D said:

Paul, you need the GTS airbox on the drivers side only (same as S but with a connector for the symposer tube). Fitting this should be simple but you may need to remove the air distribution inlet piece to gain access. The airbox can be bought at the OPC for around £250 iirc or much less from a breaker.

The tube is available at the OPC for about £150 and the hole on the engine wall is already there just capped with a rubber piece (behind the carpet - drivers side left shoulder)

Last stage is to connect it to the vacuum system so the flap opens like the PSE, a couple of plastic tubes and a t piece for about £7 from the OPC, if you didn't have PSE simply zip tie it open permanently. The code for this option is I155 so you can see the bits in the parts diagrams.

It sounds just like this once installed. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MkpTyMNV8E (2 mins in)

Edited by testdrive_tv on Friday 25th May 10:54

[JayK12]

dreamcar said:

JayK12 said:

Guys, anyone not extended there warranty on the GTS? Anyone had issues inside / outside of warranty? My GTS is on 8500 miles and does about 3000 a year.

Cheers

I have a BGTS which has covered 14k miles in just over three years. This time last year I had a dynamic engine mount fail whilst the car was still under the three years warranty, and just after I took out the extended warranty the air con condenser failed - fortunately not due to stones. The cost of replacing the condenser at an OPC was roughly the cost of a years warranty so paid for within the first month! The warranty isn’t cheap, granted but neither is the cost of replacing failed components on a Porsche outside warranty. It is pretty comprehensive in fairness and even includes failure of xenon light bulbs. I have it just for piece of mind.

Its quite frustrating to see that if a engine mount fails in 14K miles if its not under warranty its cost to the owner, i mean that is quite shocking. My daily BMW are abused for 25K miles a year and never have issues or extended warranties.

[R5YUP]

Krobar said:

wuzznbuddy said:

Does anyone have experience of driving both the GTS and a similar specification S (i.e. one with PASM, Chrono, Sports Exhaust etc)? I've driven a PDK GTS and loved it, but they appear to attract a premium of circa £8k-£10k over a decent spec S. So I'm left wondering whether the driving experience between the S and GTS is much different? If it isn't, I'd be inclined to go with an S.

There's nothing much in it between the two to drive (GTS is a bit more special inside and out but this is mainly cosmetic) but make sure that the handling type options are the same on the S as the GTS you liked. PASM or X73 are quite different; would worry about Chrono too much.

What are the interior differences with the GTS? I have a GTS but not spent much time in a standard S to compare - i note the GTS branding in places but is there anything else?

[dreamcar]

JayK12 said:

Its quite frustrating to see that if a engine mount fails in 14K miles if its not under warranty its cost to the owner, i mean that is quite shocking. My daily BMW are abused for 25K miles a year and never have issues or extended warranties.

You misread my post or i was not clear enough - the dynamic mount failure was covered by the original 3 year warranty. As with most cars the original warranty expired at 3 years / 60k miles whichever comes first - the air con condenser was replaced under extended warranty cover.

[wuzznbuddy]

Thanks for the replies - really helpful

[Twinfan]

R5YUP said:

What are the interior differences with the GTS? I have a GTS but not spent much time in a standard S to compare - i note the GTS branding in places but is there anything else?

Alcantara and contrast stitching if it has the GTS interior package.

[Yidwann]

I'd agree with what people have said, I am keeping the GTS and S options open to me, the GTS might a bit of a stretch for me, but if I can make the numbers work then I'll go for it. I'll buy the right spec essentially, PASM, PTV, although as people have alluded to, this options are more likely to be ticked on a GTS than an S, too many poser spec S' out there! Which is a shame!

[Twinfan]

PTV is rare-ish on any 981. It wasn't standard on a GTS, unlike PASM and Sports Chrono.

[Yidwann]

Twinfan said:

PTV is rare-ish on any 981. It wasn't standard on a GTS, unlike PASM and Sports Chrono.

It's on the "Real Nice to Have List"

The Blue Cayman above I enquired about has it, but I think it's going to be gone long before I can even see it!