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AW10 said:
Unless you wire them shut! Far more pleasant that way.
I am sure that might effect back pressure, why let them bypass the muffler when you WOT even PSE off, must be a reason.So could damage the engine and it must effect BHP, throttle response etc.
I am not a gas flow engine engineer but I would not wire them closed.
When there are more restrictions (like an extra Muffler) in the path of Exhaust gases from Exhaust valve to Atmosphere, the piston has to raise the pressure of exhaust gases inside cylinder (or) in other words it must do more work to move the gases through all these restrictions.
free choice though I guess.
london_v said:
JayK12 said:
My dad is 57 now, took him out in the GTS roof off, in a tunnel, made it pop intentionally and he s
t his pants.
Doing that in the Birmingham tunnels sounded like gun shots and people were not happy with me one evening, i thought it was hilarious!
I remember taking my GTS to an Audi dealer who couldn't stop talking about how nice the TTRS sounded. After the test drive (which was sheeeeet btw), I told him to accompany me back to the car. I fired up the engine, revved it a little and he couldn't believe it was a stock exhaust. t his pants. Doing that in the Birmingham tunnels sounded like gun shots and people were not happy with me one evening, i thought it was hilarious!
The exhaust note is a massive selling point for any sports car and the GTS is a glorious sounding machine.
I’ve told this story a few times on a few threads but at the end of the day its part of the ownership experience..... when I first bought my BGTS and met up with a good friend who is a real Ferrari fanatic, he has owned every model you can name including a La Ferrari, he is one of those guys who can own any car in the world but he is just a true Ferrari nut.
We ended up going back to his place and he asked if he could come back with me in the BGTS (wives went in his car), I threw him the keys and said he may as well drive. Roof was up as it was raining but bottom line was when we got back to his place he turned off the car and just looked at me and said “wow”, he looked around in the interior and stated “what a nice car, how good is that sound”. I know this guy very very well and believe me he does not make that statement lightly, it was the biggest compliment he has ever given any car I have owned (and I’ve owned some nice metal).
anyone can say what they want to me about my BGTS but it genuinely is, to me, simply more than the sum of its parts and that sound is a massive part of that cocktail which Porsche just nailed with the 981 GTS as a sports car on British roads.
It the reason I flipped my 488, its the reason its still on my drive 18 months later.
We ended up going back to his place and he asked if he could come back with me in the BGTS (wives went in his car), I threw him the keys and said he may as well drive. Roof was up as it was raining but bottom line was when we got back to his place he turned off the car and just looked at me and said “wow”, he looked around in the interior and stated “what a nice car, how good is that sound”. I know this guy very very well and believe me he does not make that statement lightly, it was the biggest compliment he has ever given any car I have owned (and I’ve owned some nice metal).
anyone can say what they want to me about my BGTS but it genuinely is, to me, simply more than the sum of its parts and that sound is a massive part of that cocktail which Porsche just nailed with the 981 GTS as a sports car on British roads.
It the reason I flipped my 488, its the reason its still on my drive 18 months later.
Maxym said:
jonttt said:
... BGTS but it genuinely is, to me, simply more than the sum of its parts and that sound is a massive part of that cocktail which Porsche just nailed with the 981 GTS as a sports car on British roads.
Reckon that just sums it up. 
Edited by bcr5784 on Saturday 21st July 21:10
Went out with friends today around Wales. My mate has changed his 650s for a 675LT and another changes his N430 to a 570GT. My GTS sounds a billion times better than the 570 lol.
Anyone the GTS always surprises everyone, yes I'm having to push so so hard to try and keep with the McLarens which is really impossible but the GTS is so much fun, I love the manual box, every shift is different and leaving in Sport so you rev match yourself some are not so perfect but when you get it right it feels good. Also love my X73, rides so flat. For the first time i drove heard witg the roof up for abit and it felt like a completely different car!! Do I need more, no not really at all, do I want more yes always. But the GTS, it's a cracking Car!!
Anyone moved to Michelin PS4S? I want to get rid of these PZeros, locking up under braking and understanding when really making progress, heard PS4S are the way to go buy a few friends who have them on other cars. Cars not in warranty so dont need approved tyres.
Anyone the GTS always surprises everyone, yes I'm having to push so so hard to try and keep with the McLarens which is really impossible but the GTS is so much fun, I love the manual box, every shift is different and leaving in Sport so you rev match yourself some are not so perfect but when you get it right it feels good. Also love my X73, rides so flat. For the first time i drove heard witg the roof up for abit and it felt like a completely different car!! Do I need more, no not really at all, do I want more yes always. But the GTS, it's a cracking Car!!
Anyone moved to Michelin PS4S? I want to get rid of these PZeros, locking up under braking and understanding when really making progress, heard PS4S are the way to go buy a few friends who have them on other cars. Cars not in warranty so dont need approved tyres.
bcr5784 said:
Maxym said:
jonttt said:
... BGTS but it genuinely is, to me, simply more than the sum of its parts and that sound is a massive part of that cocktail which Porsche just nailed with the 981 GTS as a sports car on British roads.
Reckon that just sums it up. Edited by bcr5784 on Saturday 21st July 21:10
bcr5784 said:
Really depends on what aspect of a car is key for you. For me steering and handling trump sound by a HUGE margin. Do Caterhams or Elises sound great - not to me (most sound pretty prosaic) - but do they give me more driving pleasure - by a big margin. On track, or when really pushing it, sound is (to me) pretty irrelevant - it's actually only when I'm not really focussed on the driving that sound comes to fore.
Yep you've missed the point massively lolEdited by bcr5784 on Saturday 21st July 21:10
jonttt said:
Yep you've missed the point massively lol
Not at all - you clearly have not understood. Anyone reading postings on here must recognise that while dynamics, aesthetics and acoustics all play some part in posters choice of cars - the weight they give to each of those characteristics (and even the value judgement of each of them) varies MASSIVELY. It seems acoustics are more important to you than me. That said I thoughougly dislike the sound a 718 makes and that (and the lag at modest revs) is the reason I much prefer the 981 as my DD. On track it would be a different matter - and I'd choose the 718 for it's superior steering and handling - lag wouldn't be an issue at the revs I'd be using, and I'd be focussing on other things than the noise.
bcr5784 said:
On track it would be a different matter - and I'd choose the 718 for it's superior steering and handling - lag wouldn't be an issue at the revs I'd be using, and I'd be focussing on other things than the noise.
Spot on, I would too. The 718CS felt amazing at both PEC’s I did in them and you’re concentrating too hard to worry about how the car sounds.JayK12 said:
Anyone moved to Michelin PS4S? I want to get rid of these PZeros, locking up under braking and understanding when really making progress, heard PS4S are the way to go buy a few friends who have them on other cars. Cars not in warranty so dont need approved tyres.
I just put a set of n-rated PS4'S on mine last week. Pirelli's where on their last legs and I was hoping for good things from various reviews and comments I've had about them.I wasn't disappointed. I'm not one to typically rave about tyres, as i'll be honest I never notice that much difference, but these really have made the car feel so much better in pretty much every aspect.
Edited by Marc_Hill on Monday 23 July 21:02
Marc_Hill said:
JayK12 said:
Anyone moved to Michelin PS4S? I want to get rid of these PZeros, locking up under braking and understeering when really making progress, heard PS4S are the way to go buy a few friends who have them on other cars. Cars not in warranty so dont need approved tyres.
I just put a set of n-rated PS4'S on mine last week. Pirelli's where on their last legs and I was hoping for good things from various reviews and comments I've had about them.I wasn't disappointed. I'm not one to typically rave about tyres, as i'll be honest I never notice that much difference, but these really have mind the car feel so much better in pretty much every aspect.
JayK12 said:
Thanks Marc, where did you get them from? Much price difference between N rated and not, mines out of warranty now.
not much price difference i don't think, but the standard version are A rated in the wet, the N rated are B rated in the wet...i called Michelin to ask about the differences but the info given wasn't very useful, other than to say that the lower rating would have been given due to longer braking distances in the wet. no info on cornering grip though.
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