Cayman GT4

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Mermaid

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21,492 posts

170 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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This will get Cayman fans excited. PH gets a mention. smile


http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Searc...


Mermaid

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21,492 posts

170 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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The new, be-winged 2015 Porsche Cayman GT4 coupe has been caught testing near the Nurburgring in Germany by CAR magazine's spy photographers.

It's a major change for the Porsche Cayman sports car: the GT4 is due to become the first factory-finished turbocharged Cayman in the model's eight-year history and it's the first roadgoing Porsche expected to deploy the GT4 badge.

Following in the footsteps of the Cayman R - and then some - the forced-induction Cayman GT4 is bound to raise questions with enthusiasts, who are already fretting over the revvy nature of its turbocharged flat-six in forums such as Pistonheads.

CAR understands the engine powering the GT4 is the company's 3.8-litre twin-turbo boxer six, tuned to develop around 450bhp.

BubblesNW

1,710 posts

182 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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I very much doubt it will be a turbo flat 6. Either flat 6 or turbo flat 4 and nowhere near 450bhp imho.
However, if true, put me down for one in Guards Red.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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old news, old shots and guess work regarding engine ! but I very much doubt a 3.8 twin turbo in it lol.

2.5 turbo or a 3.8 NA lump maybe.

Goofnik

216 posts

139 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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The rumored starting price (no options) is $120,000 USD according to MotorTrend's Johnny Lieberman. For comparison, a Cayman GTS is $75,000 USD. That is Carrera 4S with PowerKit money, and only $10,000 USD shy of a 911 GT3.

3.8L bi-turbo making 450HP is certainly plausible. That's 996 Turbo S power output (which made about 460lb-ft of torque as well). If it's still RWD, and weight is kept to within 50kg of the Cayman GTS, it would be absolutely nuts. Power to weight ratio would be lower than a GT3, but it'd also have a mountain more torque.

We'll find out next year, I would assume at Geneva. I doubt many GTS buyers would switch, as the cost to "move up" would be brutal. Running costs won't be cheap either. Plus it's not as every day as a GTS. For me, I've already ruled it out.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Will be so disappointed if this is a turbo.

Hellers

134 posts

172 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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As above. NA every time for me. And as Goofnik says if the cost to change is such a chunk, a GTS would be perfectly good enough. Or a Lotus Exige Cup *ducks and runs for cover*


You're welcome!

hufggfg

654 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Whilst it being a turbo would utterly ruin it for me, I'm not in the market for this car anyway.

For Porsche maybe it would be a way to test the market reaction to a GT line turbo...

dom9

8,040 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Would prefer NA but I will be very, very interested in a new one of these if/ when they are released as 2015 was new sportscar buying year!

Will follow this thread with interest smile

It certainly looks good in those pictures smile

Goofnik

216 posts

139 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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anonymous said:
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Beats me. Ask 996 Turbo S owners what the point of their car was.

The big point would be a drastically different power delivery characteristic. A GTS produces a peak of 280lb-ft. The 996 Turbo S produced 457lb-ft. Imagine an RWD Cayman with that much torque (and possibly with rear-wheel steering). Would be a VERY interesting car.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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and it's not going to happen.

be the 2.5 turbo lump at about 380bhp or the 3.8 NA lump at about the same.
There is no way Porsche are going to give a Cayman over 400BHp imo.

They might have Kers lag fill on the turbo though to show off the new tech.

seawise

2,144 posts

205 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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I've got a deposit down for one of these should the media predictions become a reality. the idea of a Cayman on a diet with more power and a race honed chassis (the initial reports are that it'll be homologated for competition) rather appeals, as the 911 gets fatter and more tech laden.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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I doubt you have a deposit down on one the cars not confirmed :-)

once spec and price is confirmed Porsche will start wanting 10k deposits.

fioran0

2,410 posts

171 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Is this going to be released as a homologation car for the FIA GT4 series? (amateur drivers, prepped track day level cars)
Are Porsche going to try and increase their customer motorsports revenue stream off the back of this car or are they just using the name of the series that sits below GT3 in the FIA system?

Porsche already tried to push the Cayman in this and had them homologated for the GT4 series (its converted via a purchased add on kit) however no one was using it and it was replaced by first a street GT3 and then by a downgrade package for early Cups. In spite of this Porsche have no real exposure so far in this series.
If the plan is to try to increase cars running in this series then a look at the cars that are homologated makes for interesting reading (in terms of what this cayman GT4 if it appears will be like) given that the series runs balance of power.

Approx weight and power:
BMW M3 GT4: 1380kg, 420hp
Aston Martin Vantage GT4: 1350kg, 420hp
Ginetta G50 GT4: 945kg, 340hp
Lotus Evora GT4: 1200kg, 360hp
Ford Mustang FR500GT4; 1360kg , 420hp
The Toyota GT86 GT4 has also been homologated but I haven't seen a weight for this yet.


seawise

2,144 posts

205 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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mrdemon said:
I doubt you have a deposit down on one the cars not confirmed :-)

once spec and price is confirmed Porsche will start wanting 10k deposits.
ah you calling me a liar ? my local OPC had 2 'letters of intent' already, and 1 deposit, so i was the 2nd customer leaving a deposit which will guarantee me a car. all this is refundable if i don't like the spec of the car when announced, or indeed if it's never actually built. next i suppose you'll want me to send you the 'kin paperwork ?


OlberJ

14,101 posts

232 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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In that case it's going to need at least 400bhp.

Hold out hope for an exhaust note to match that anticipation.

V8KSN

4,711 posts

183 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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fioran0 said:
Is this going to be released as a homologation car for the FIA GT4 series? (amateur drivers, prepped track day level cars)
Are Porsche going to try and increase their customer motorsports revenue stream off the back of this car or are they just using the name of the series that sits below GT3 in the FIA system?

Porsche already tried to push the Cayman in this and had them homologated for the GT4 series (its converted via a purchased add on kit) however no one was using it and it was replaced by first a street GT3 and then by a downgrade package for early Cups. In spite of this Porsche have no real exposure so far in this series.
If the plan is to try to increase cars running in this series then a look at the cars that are homologated makes for interesting reading (in terms of what this cayman GT4 if it appears will be like) given that the series runs balance of power.

Approx weight and power:
BMW M3 GT4: 1380kg, 420hp
Aston Martin Vantage GT4: 1350kg, 420hp
Ginetta G50 GT4: 945kg, 340hp
Lotus Evora GT4: 1200kg, 360hp
Ford Mustang FR500GT4; 1360kg , 420hp
The Toyota GT86 GT4 has also been homologated but I haven't seen a weight for this yet.
Very interesting reading, thanks for posting.

If Porsche do go down this route then the figure of 400bhp would be about right.
Lots of different engines in that GT4 line up too from NA V8 to Turbo 4

OlberJ

14,101 posts

232 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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There was the rumour of the Super 8 that one of the Porsche big wigs was running around in.

Could there be 8 cylinders in the GT4?

Could this be the mooted "916"?


lemmingjames

7,433 posts

203 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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ill settle for your bank details, pin number and security code if thats ok Seawise?

Will this GT4 be a limited run or will OPC's get demo cars? Or do you have to be in the know to get a TD before making up your mind?

TackMEU

454 posts

144 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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seawise said:
mrdemon said:
I doubt you have a deposit down on one the cars not confirmed :-)

once spec and price is confirmed Porsche will start wanting 10k deposits.
ah you calling me a liar ? my local OPC had 2 'letters of intent' already, and 1 deposit, so i was the 2nd customer leaving a deposit which will guarantee me a car. all this is refundable if i don't like the spec of the car when announced, or indeed if it's never actually built. next i suppose you'll want me to send you the 'kin paperwork ?
I spoke to Portsmouth OPC and they confirmed 2 deposits on a GT 4. Fully refundable, of course.