12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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Fokker

3,460 posts

221 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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3 good colours there, nice pic smile

The 991 always feels a lot bigger to me after getting straight out of the GT4 too...

I went to get my 991.2 GT3 from North Wales where it has been sleeping. I drove up from Cardiff in the GT4 and back down in the GT3 in one day.
I'll always remember it. The GT3 is epic for the engine but its not £100k more than a GT4 for sure. Great little cars for the money.


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Fokker said:
3 good colours there, nice pic smile

The GT3 is epic for the engine but its not £100k more than a GT4 for sure. Great little cars for the money.
No it's £50k more ;-p (list) and the engine alone feels worth that imo. when I look at cars which can match the GT3's you have to spend a lot more.

GT4 is class leading at £75k speced up for sure , but the GT3 fix's all the niggles every one has about the Gt4, so at £130k it's amazing value still vs other cars at £130k.

GT4 gen 2 could BE the car to own value wise, but a lot depends on the Engine, Gearbox and Adjustable sus the Gen 2 has.

atm the GT3 991.2 ticks a load of box's no other car could for me atm out the box, for once I am not adding up £20k mods to fix issues I don't like.

I think I have spent £22.50 on mine so far on 4 stickers.

lemmingjames

7,435 posts

203 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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even the gearing ratios?

red_slr

17,123 posts

188 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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So when do we think the Gen 2 GT4 will be coming? I have a letter of intent on one and its been a long time since I heard anything apparently "sometime" in 2019?

Swimfinz

315 posts

107 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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red_slr said:
So when do we think the Gen 2 GT4 will be coming? I have a letter of intent on one and its been a long time since I heard anything apparently "sometime" in 2019?
Strong rumours of the Rennsport Reunion in September..... But.... Who knows really....

Fokker

3,460 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Porsche911R said:
No it's £50k more ;-p (list) and the engine alone feels worth that imo. when I look at cars which can match the GT3's you have to spend a lot more.

GT4 is class leading at £75k speced up for sure , but the GT3 fix's all the niggles every one has about the Gt4, so at £130k it's amazing value still vs other cars at £130k.

GT4 gen 2 could BE the car to own value wise, but a lot depends on the Engine, Gearbox and Adjustable sus the Gen 2 has.

atm the GT3 991.2 ticks a load of box's no other car could for me atm out the box, for once I am not adding up £20k mods to fix issues I don't like.

I think I have spent £22.50 on mine so far on 4 stickers.
My GT4 is worth about £80 - £85k and the GT3 £180 - £185K. Therefore at current market price which is what most people are going to be paying from now on is £100k.

Even new my GT4 was £75k and the GT3 £135k so £60k but list is in the past now! Way way in the past!

dysart200

45 posts

109 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I've now had my GT4 for 2 years and 12000 miles and I'm considering a change. After the expected knock back on .2 GT3 and .2 GT3RS, I'm getting impatient waiting on launch of 718 GT4/RS or whatever it may be. I'm considering trading GT4 in for something different for the summer and hopefully get into the new varient when it comes. Considering Carrera T, .2 GTS or maybe even a Boxster Spyder....used of course. My fear is I change and the performance is nowhere near to the GT4....and then they announce turbo GT4 and I'll be stuck! Anyone got experience with all these cars and any advice would be appreciated. I think I'm probably just craving something new for a change.

Swimfinz

315 posts

107 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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dysart200 said:
I've now had my GT4 for 2 years and 12000 miles and I'm considering a change. After the expected knock back on .2 GT3 and .2 GT3RS, I'm getting impatient waiting on launch of 718 GT4/RS or whatever it may be. I'm considering trading GT4 in for something different for the summer and hopefully get into the new varient when it comes. Considering Carrera T, .2 GTS or maybe even a Boxster Spyder....used of course. My fear is I change and the performance is nowhere near to the GT4....and then they announce turbo GT4 and I'll be stuck! Anyone got experience with all these cars and any advice would be appreciated. I think I'm probably just craving something new for a change.
Depends what you are looking for in terms of “performance”.... The Spyder (I’m assuming you mean the 981 variant) will be much the same as the GT4– unless you track a lot—but without a roof (both a good and bad thing in this country...!). The T and .2 GTS are turbo’d, and thus they deliver power in a very different way— huge amounts of torque, but nowhere near as smooth as a N/A motor. But the outright “performance” is certainly there.... Personally, I’d never swap my GT4 for either of the latter 2 cars, unless I needed the back seats of the GTS: they just don’t “feel” as hard-edged and don’t provide the same level of feedback/involvement.... The Spyder I would only really swap into for a bit of sunny, summer fun; or if I didn’t do any track work.... And yes— I’ve driven all of these cars, and own a GT4, so hopefully have some level of objectivity (although I’m obviously GT4 biased... wink )

Why not try the 987.2 Spyder...?? Cracking car, and one of my biggest regrets in selling....

dysart200

45 posts

109 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Swimfinz said:
Depends what you are looking for in terms of “performance”.... The Spyder (I’m assuming you mean the 981 variant) will be much the same as the GT4– unless you track a lot—but without a roof (both a good and bad thing in this country...!). The T and .2 GTS are turbo’d, and thus they deliver power in a very different way— huge amounts of torque, but nowhere near as smooth as a N/A motor. But the outright “performance” is certainly there.... Personally, I’d never swap my GT4 for either of the latter 2 cars, unless I needed the back seats of the GTS: they just don’t “feel” as hard-edged and don’t provide the same level of feedback/involvement.... The Spyder I would only really swap into for a bit of sunny, summer fun; or if I didn’t do any track work.... And yes— I’ve driven all of these cars, and own a GT4, so hopefully have some level of objectivity (although I’m obviously GT4 biased... wink )

Why not try the 987.2 Spyder...?? Cracking car, and one of my biggest regrets in selling....
Thanks for the reply, good to hear from someone with experience of all of them.

Pretty much what I expected. I don't track the car yet. Spend my time on the B roads so maybe the Spyder would be a good choice for the summer as I'm no racing driver so doubt I'd even notice the small difference in the GT4 to the Spyder. As it is for country roads, I'm not bothered for top end speed or outright acceleration when it comes to performance. I was referring more the wonderful steering and go kart feel of the GT4. I have ceramics but by all accounts on these threads, the steel's are phenomenal as well. I know the Carrera T or GTS will not be as good as the GT4 in this sense but kind of hoped the gap wouldn't be large enough to really annoy me. I think I just want a new toy.....

av185

18,434 posts

126 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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dysart200 said:
I've now had my GT4 for 2 years and 12000 miles and I'm considering a change. After the expected knock back on .2 GT3 and .2 GT3RS, I'm getting impatient waiting on launch of 718 GT4/RS or whatever it may be. I'm considering trading GT4 in for something different for the summer and hopefully get into the new varient when it comes. Considering Carrera T, .2 GTS or maybe even a Boxster Spyder....used of course. My fear is I change and the performance is nowhere near to the GT4....and then they announce turbo GT4 and I'll be stuck! Anyone got experience with all these cars and any advice would be appreciated. I think I'm probably just craving something new for a change.
911T is a great usable rare and involving package benefiting from the sweet spot albeit turboed engine with fairly linear power delivery and steering as good if not better than the GT4. Rear seats were a free option for comfort spec cars thus providing added 911 versatility.

As rapid and almost as engaging as the GT4 as a road car although it has to be said that the 7 speed gearbox is not as good with a degree of impression on 6th and 7th gear.

Similar in many respects to the 997.1 Carrera S imo it feels back to basics lightweight 911 subject to the 'correct' minimalist spec...dump pdk and rws sunroof etc etc for ultimate weight saving.

GTS whilst having more power feels lardier than the T.

981 Spyder as rapid as the GT4 on the road and imo a better package overall although the exhaust sound is somewhat synthetic.

As previously said, biggest issue for the GT4 apart from the gearing is it's non GT engine whereas the Spyder and 911 T are true to form.

Btw chances the 718 GT4 is turbo virtually zero.




Foxmod

57 posts

169 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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TDT said:
Upnorthgt3 said:
Has anyone fitted an aftermarket exhaust?

If yes, what brand?

How much?

Any good?
What are you looking for power, sound or both?

FabSpeed and Cargraphic are well renowned.
Innotech (iPE) is also available

The stock exhaust is quite good if a bit material heavy in typical OEM Porsche fashion.
Improvements can be made by changing out the stock headers for freer flowing ones which will release a lot of power and sound.

Do you want to retain OEM valve control/Sports Exhaust Button? or happy to have it controlled by another remote?
I can vouch for Cargraphic, had a headers and systems fitted to mine, keeping the value control, uped the noise and power. Nice thing is the headers can be fitted to the reguler system if you need to keep the noise the same. Felt the difference, rev quicker and the noise was brilliant. I removed it beofre the car was sold and its now looking for a new owner

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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dysart200 said:
Thanks for the reply, good to hear from someone with experience of all of them.

Pretty much what I expected. I don't track the car yet. Spend my time on the B roads so maybe the Spyder would be a good choice for the summer as I'm no racing driver so doubt I'd even notice the small difference in the GT4 to the Spyder. As it is for country roads, I'm not bothered for top end speed or outright acceleration when it comes to performance. I was referring more the wonderful steering and go kart feel of the GT4. I have ceramics but by all accounts on these threads, the steel's are phenomenal as well. I know the Carrera T or GTS will not be as good as the GT4 in this sense but kind of hoped the gap wouldn't be large enough to really annoy me. I think I just want a new toy.....
987.2 Spyder for B road summer fun, thing is you won't ever want to sell it and you will need another car.

Cayman R is the best all round fun road car imo true flat 6 sound, responsive engine, direct steering, total handling excellence etc etc I could go on.

the new cars cannot give you what the 987.2 cars can, I own 5 atm inc both Spyder's, GT3, ran the GT4 for 2.1 years etc etc

A lot of these new Porsche owners rave on about the new cars, but they are lacking as is every new car. (GT4 = gokart + wonderful steering ! not really)

you could go 991.2 GTS for the main use and Lotus 350 Sport Exige for fun, that's a much nicer pairing and does what you want better on both accounts.
(This is what I should really do myself :-0 )

If you plan NOT to track swap the GT4 for the 981 Spyder if you only want one car but newer. If you plan to track keep the GT4, if you are not a snob buy a Cayman R (you don't have to own a £100k car to have the most fun) , if you want the closest driving feel to a Lotus buy a 987.2 Spyder.

If you want the best all round car today and not that fussed about outright fun but just want a fast nice car buy a 991.2 GTS and have some thing way more hard core in the Garage for Sundays. As I said any new car will not connect you like the older cars inc the GT4, I never took my GT4 out for fun because it was not that much fun really, If I were on my own and wanted a drive I still picked up my R keys.

Fokker

3,460 posts

221 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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dysart200 said:
I've now had my GT4 for 2 years and 12000 miles and I'm considering a change. After the expected knock back on .2 GT3 and .2 GT3RS, I'm getting impatient waiting on launch of 718 GT4/RS or whatever it may be. I'm considering trading GT4 in for something different for the summer and hopefully get into the new varient when it comes. Considering Carrera T, .2 GTS or maybe even a Boxster Spyder....used of course. My fear is I change and the performance is nowhere near to the GT4....and then they announce turbo GT4 and I'll be stuck! Anyone got experience with all these cars and any advice would be appreciated. I think I'm probably just craving something new for a change.
I was in your situation and bought a 991.1 GTS. It was a very good road car but nowhere near as involving to drive as the GT4. I had it 5 months I think and then bought another GT4. I considered a Spyder but I'm not one for soft tops really. The 991.2 GTS is apparently a very good car but its way more expensive than the GT4 at £100k plus and to me less of a drivers car. The only spec I might consider would be a manual with buckets but try finding one...

The GT4 is a classic example of a value for money sports car. Once you sell it, you'll realise that the grass simply isn't greener on the other side of the fence.

Fokker

3,460 posts

221 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Foxmod said:
I can vouch for Cargraphic, had a headers and systems fitted to mine, keeping the value control, uped the noise and power. Nice thing is the headers can be fitted to the reguler system if you need to keep the noise the same. Felt the difference, rev quicker and the noise was brilliant. I removed it beofre the car was sold and its now looking for a new owner
PM sent

Swimfinz

315 posts

107 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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av185 said:
As previously said, biggest issue for the GT4 apart from the gearing is it's non GT engine whereas the Spyder and 911 T are true to form.

Btw chances the 718 GT4 is turbo virtually zero.
Agree with most of what av185 says, apart from these last 2 comments.... Strictly, yes— the GT4 does not have a “GT” engine, and is thus not “true to form” in that sense. However, it is the same N/A lump that sits in the Spyder (and with more power.... wink ), and thus the Spyder certainly cannot be said to be a “better” car on these grounds alone....

The engine type/configuration etc. in the new GT4 is still a hotly debated topic, with ZERO conclusive evidence either way.... It’s largely coming down to well-informed “cleaning ladies” vs brief video clips posted on Instagram (tbh the most recent videos of the Spyder mule running the Ring most defo sounds like a F6T, but who knows...?!?)

Either way, both of these issues have been MUCH debated on PH recently but, FWIW, if I were the OP I’d hang on to the GT4 and see what’s coming next.... wink


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Edited by Swimfinz on Friday 20th April 10:08

Swimfinz

315 posts

107 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Fokker said:
Foxmod said:
I can vouch for Cargraphic, had a headers and systems fitted to mine, keeping the value control, uped the noise and power. Nice thing is the headers can be fitted to the reguler system if you need to keep the noise the same. Felt the difference, rev quicker and the noise was brilliant. I removed it beofre the car was sold and its now looking for a new owner
PM sent
LOL— Beat me to it...!! wink

Fokker

3,460 posts

221 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Swimfinz said:
LOL— Beat me to it...!! wink
Lol and we're all called Dave!



Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Fokker said:
The GT4 is a classic example of a value for money sports car. Once you sell it, you'll realise that the grass simply isn't greener on the other side of the fence.
yep 3 months after buying my GT4 and selling my R I bought another R :-), grass is not greener for sure.
you can have more fun at 1/2 the price :-)

PS some one buy my GT4 adjustable toe links, they are very nice and 1/2 price to 1st pm.

TDT

4,911 posts

118 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Porsche911R said:
PS some one buy my GT4 adjustable toe links, they are very nice and 1/2 price to 1st pm.
PM sent

d16rr

162 posts

141 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Porsche911R said:
yep 3 months after buying my GT4 and selling my R I bought another R :-), grass is not greener for sure.
you can have more fun at 1/2 the price :-)

PS some one buy my GT4 adjustable toe links, they are very nice and 1/2 price to 1st pm.
Have some steel rear discs for sale too, brand new still boxed, anyone ???
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