12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[av185]

Porsche911R said:

Fokker said:

I doubt it will cost you 20k.. £10 to £15k if you chop yours in maybe depending on your spec and mileage.
New one I would say will be £70 - £72k new plus options - Educated guess...

depends if the OPC gets into client bidding wars, it happens in the Styner group, so I am sure it does with other OPC dealers.
ie you offer your car for less to get a slot over the next man in the line. and as it's cheaper than paying overs + you get to spec it you your liking, many new car owners have paid backward overs to get into cars.

what's a trade OPC offer for a buy out ? £65k at a guess for the ave 8k miles car. So to win a new GT4 you might have to offer your car lower if you are NOT A VIP customer with zero buying history of Macans.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 18th January 10:58

It will be interesting to see this time round with the 718 GT4 the extent to which OPCs force customers to accept a derisory px offer on desirable stock and or force potential GT car customers to buy other used OPC stock at grossly inflated prices. This can often end up costing the OPC customer way over what they could have bought the car for even for the high flipped price.

Most franchises now operate in this way which resulted in many GT3 and RS customers effectively paying grossly inflated prices.

Be interesting to know whether Porsche GB owned OPC s operate this policy too.

[PaulAlex]

I don't have the Macan buying background and have already been politely rejected by my three closest OPCs. This despite having a low miles GT4 at home, with recently extended warranty. Does anyone know which (if any!) dealers are less VIP-orientated?

Cheers,

Paul.

[av185]

PaulAlex said:

I don't have the Macan buying background and have already been politely rejected by my three closest OPCs. This despite having a low miles GT4 at home, with recently extended warranty. Does anyone know which (if any!) dealers are less VIP-orientated?

Cheers,

Paul.

See my post.

As I said to get a GT4 slot most OPCs will want to steal your existing GT4 at well behind trade plus they will invariably want you to buy a used car in excess ££ to what it is worth.

As a starting point you could offer your 981 in px at an attractive figure but it will have to be relatively low ££ otherwise they will simply choose another customer. Really depends on how much you want one.....

[Porsche911R]

boxsey said:

If you get one....just don't drive it like this on your first day out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOzJGZWNQd8

driving aside, all that backs up is my issues with it,

1: he did not have to use 4th, and no idea why he wanted to change to 4th, as I said I kept my car in 3rd on a hoon, which every one takes the piss out of, but you are really stuck in 3rd 90 %of the time which is a shame.

2: you have to be happy doing 125mph in them to get enjoyment out of it.

If you are not tracking then there are far better road cars to have fun in imo,

If you track a GT4 then it's a great car, and I guess it's intended use.

If you never want to visit a track day or only do 1 a year then the GT4 is not the right road car, which again goes for all the older GT3 stock.

A £25k Boxster S would really be more fun, but it's not a life style car to be seen in.

Those are the facts when push comes to shove, funny old game.

At least I admitted my GT4 was my posers car, but I still tracked it 4 or 5 times, but on the road is just was not a fun car sadly unless at the top end of 3rd and trying to get to some sort of limit with it.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 18th January 12:49

[dysart200]

After 3 years of ownership and 13k miles, I'm considering a change from my GT4. I am getting impatient waiting on new GT4 and may not even get an allocation in the end anyway so was thinking about selling it and saving some interest on the last year of my PCP. My plan is to keep GT4 until spring, sell back to OPC (If they are interested), and buy something relatively safe on depreciation to fill the gap until potential new GT4, which I would likely not see before March 2020, as if I'm on the list, I'll be bottom of it!!

My GT4 is Sapphire, PCCB, LWB's, Cage, Carbon. 83K list. Any estimates on what an OPC will offer in Spring from you learned gentlemen?

As a stop gap, I have been thinking of a few options. Cayman R is probably the best bet for the least depreciation if it is the right spec. Same for 987 Spyder. Also considered a GTI Clubsport S for the year.

981 Spyder is another option that I'd like to try but don't see much point as it would involve finance for a year and in that case I think I'd be as well keeping the GT4 for the year.

Any comments/advice appreciated.

[Porsche911R]

dysart200 said:

As a stop gap, I have been thinking of a few options. Cayman R is probably the best bet for the least depreciation if it is the right spec. Same for 987 Spyder. Also considered a GTI Clubsport S for the year.

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As I have owned all 3 and still own two, you cannot go wrong. although my Golf is only the CS not the CSS as I wanted rear seats, but it's CSS spec manual, buckets, 3 door and was £15k cheaper for the same car. I love it to bits it's very much like my Clio Trophy and after having loan mk7 GTi when mine is in, it's amazing how good the CS is over the normal Gti. as sidewayd sid says, it's very much a GT4 sort of car drive.

buy an R if you like driving and need to use a car daily, or buy a 987.2 Spyder if you have another car to use, although you won't want to sell it ever ;-)

[GT4P]

Plenty of punters out there got a new Gt4 with out a huge buying history, I for one had only bought one car from my opc a new boxster about 12 years prior and had about half a dozen services on cars i bought elsewhere, but I did have to wait to about 3 months after release to get a slot.Or it could have been as I secured the Spyder on release and they needed the slot later on for a VIP although the Spyder wasn't a sell out at first!
This time round I think everyone who really wants one will get one after the initial rush of course

[Porsche911R]

GT4P said:

Plenty of punters out there got a new Gt4 with out a huge buying history, I for one had only bought one car from my opc a new boxster about 12 years prior and had about half a dozen services on cars i bought elsewhere, but I did have to wait to about 3 months after release to get a slot.Or it could have been as I secured the Spyder on release and they needed the slot later on for a VIP although the Spyder wasn't a sell out at first!
This time round I think everyone who really wants one will get one after the initial rush of course

There was no hassle for the old GT4, I also got one having never bought a new Porsche in my life.
My dealer knew what cars I liked and let me have it, there was a list and it did not waver, I was 2nd in said list and got a early car, no one knew they were £100k cars in day 1. lists were lists :-)

It's just not like that now. Now it's a fight and you have to part ex a GT car or your old car or have buying history, lists are pointless as people can jump up the list offering a better deal to their OPC which then knocks people who really do want them off the bottom of the list.

even if they make 800 they will sell them all, so no good being number 801

[Fokker]

dysart200 said:

After 3 years of ownership and 13k miles, I'm considering a change from my GT4. I am getting impatient waiting on new GT4 and may not even get an allocation in the end anyway so was thinking about selling it and saving some interest on the last year of my PCP. My plan is to keep GT4 until spring, sell back to OPC (If they are interested), and buy something relatively safe on depreciation to fill the gap until potential new GT4, which I would likely not see before March 2020, as if I'm on the list, I'll be bottom of it!!

My GT4 is Sapphire, PCCB, LWB's, Cage, Carbon. 83K list. Any estimates on what an OPC will offer in Spring from you learned gentlemen?

As a stop gap, I have been thinking of a few options. Cayman R is probably the best bet for the least depreciation if it is the right spec. Same for 987 Spyder. Also considered a GTI Clubsport S for the year.

981 Spyder is another option that I'd like to try but don't see much point as it would involve finance for a year and in that case I think I'd be as well keeping the GT4 for the year.

Any comments/advice appreciated.

I dont see the point. The GT4 in my view is a stable place to have you money. You mention a Spyder, well depreciation on that will be almost identical to its sister, GT4.

I speak from experience here... If you've been refused by 3 OPC's you're not doing something correctly. Build a relationship with one on the sales guys and show your passion for the brand. Its not necessarily licking arse, its having an interest. You have to demonstrate that you're not wanting one for the monetary gain. If you can't be bothered with that and you just expect to ask and get one, you'll be refused every time.

Your sales guy will have had 10 enquirers a day like yours. You have to stand out and make a difference if you really want one. That or buy a Cayenne Turbo!

[dysart200]

Fokker said:

dysart200 said:

After 3 years of ownership and 13k miles, I'm considering a change from my GT4. I am getting impatient waiting on new GT4 and may not even get an allocation in the end anyway so was thinking about selling it and saving some interest on the last year of my PCP. My plan is to keep GT4 until spring, sell back to OPC (If they are interested), and buy something relatively safe on depreciation to fill the gap until potential new GT4, which I would likely not see before March 2020, as if I'm on the list, I'll be bottom of it!!

My GT4 is Sapphire, PCCB, LWB's, Cage, Carbon. 83K list. Any estimates on what an OPC will offer in Spring from you learned gentlemen?

As a stop gap, I have been thinking of a few options. Cayman R is probably the best bet for the least depreciation if it is the right spec. Same for 987 Spyder. Also considered a GTI Clubsport S for the year.

981 Spyder is another option that I'd like to try but don't see much point as it would involve finance for a year and in that case I think I'd be as well keeping the GT4 for the year.

Any comments/advice appreciated.

I dont see the point. The GT4 in my view is a stable place to have you money. You mention a Spyder, well depreciation on that will be almost identical to its sister, GT4.

I speak from experience here... If you've been refused by 3 OPC's you're not doing something correctly. Build a relationship with one on the sales guys and show your passion for the brand. Its not necessarily licking arse, its having an interest. You have to demonstrate that you're not wanting one for the monetary gain. If you can't be bothered with that and you just expect to ask and get one, you'll be refused every time.

Yeah, that's it, I'm just flirting with the idea of changing into something different for a year and giving the open top experience a go crossed my mind. Absolutely though, financially, there will be little between the 981's. A 987 though, I reckon I may be able to save a bit of cash over the year before moving it on for 718 GT4. A lot of if's and but's involved though.

Unfortunately the relationship I had, which I believe secured me the GT4, is gone. The guy moved on and I've not really been able to build any kind of relationship with the other guys. I'm not complaining though, I was very lucky to get a GT4 and I put that down to showing a passion for the car. It certainly was not my buying history as I had only bought 1 new 981 S from them. I've since done 13k miles in just under 3 years and I'm actually only in the UK for 6 months per year so I'd say I have put a decent amount of miles on it.

[ChrisW.]

Car mag is suggesting that teh 718 GT4 will be £90k ??

[Porsche911R]

ChrisW. said:

Car mag is suggesting that teh 718 GT4 will be £90k ??

My guess is £69,995
But remember it did not come with any sort of buckets last time !
So options are £10k min for a steel shod basic colour car.
Pts if allowed seems to have tripled in price now also.

So a pts PCCB car would be > £90k :-)

[av185]

Car mag are clueless.

Reckon on c£74k basic £84k with proper spec excluding ceramics and clubsport.

[TDT]

av185 said:

Car mag are clueless.

Have to agree… I read the same article whilst browsing in WHSmiths today, and it’s pure speculation… or just plain wrong.

In the tech specs they say that it will come with multi-link rear suspension also.

I was very surprised to see them quote £90k as base price for the new car.

They reckon it will come with lightened glass also, and suspension rate revision that moves the car from road even more toward track with increased spring and damping rates.… so really hardcoring the car.… sounds almost RS-like.

[fridaypassion]

I'm tempted to have a punt at a no previous history GT4 purchase although I would be crossing my fingers they will offer pdk. Now I did call into jct leeds last year and was not really impressed. Got the impression I wouldn't get anywhere there. Although having not bought from them I did point out at the time I had a 987 and an aircooled 911 so I am a "Porsche person" I could do with finding an OPC that places some value on someone that's taken the time and a lot of money to keep one of their iconic cars on the road. Maybe rocking up in a Mexico blue backdate might do the trick!

[Fokker]

av185 said:

Car mag are clueless.

Reckon on c£74k basic £84k with proper spec excluding ceramics and clubsport.

Thats a 9k increase. I think thats a lot. The 991.2 GT3 was 10k more.

It'll be there abouts but I reckon closer to 70 - 72k. £83 - 84k with CS, buckets and a decent spec.

[av185]

Fokker said:

av185 said:

Car mag are clueless.

Reckon on c£74k basic £84k with proper spec excluding ceramics and clubsport.

Thats a 9k increase. I think thats a lot. The 991.2 GT3 was 10k more.

It'll be there abouts but I reckon closer to 70 - 72k. £83 - 84k with CS, buckets and a decent spec.

It will be interesting to see whether the CS pack includes free cage this time like the GT3.

Seem to recollect on the 981 the cage was a joke c £3500 extra even with buckets and if it is around this price on the 718 it's a sure pass for me, at least.

[av185]

fridaypassion said:

I'm tempted to have a punt at a no previous history GT4 purchase although I would be crossing my fingers they will offer pdk. Now I did call into jct leeds last year and was not really impressed. Got the impression I wouldn't get anywhere there. Although having not bought from them I did point out at the time I had a 987 and an aircooled 911 so I am a "Porsche person" I could do with finding an OPC that places some value on someone that's taken the time and a lot of money to keep one of their iconic cars on the road. Maybe rocking up in a Mexico blue backdate might do the trick!

JCT Leeds are one of the biggest OPCs and whilst they get the allocations they also have the top customers with serious buying power.

I have never found them good to deal with from experience several years back.

[GT4RS]

av185 said:

Fokker said:

av185 said:

Car mag are clueless.

Reckon on c£74k basic £84k with proper spec excluding ceramics and clubsport.

Thats a 9k increase. I think thats a lot. The 991.2 GT3 was 10k more.

It'll be there abouts but I reckon closer to 70 - 72k. £83 - 84k with CS, buckets and a decent spec.

It will be interesting to see whether the CS pack includes free cage this time like the GT3.

Seem to recollect on the 981 the cage was a joke c £3500 extra even with buckets and if it is around this price on the 718 it's a sure pass for me, at least.

If you go for a new gt4 will you be selling up the gt3, I was under the impression you loved it?

[Cheib]

av185 said:

fridaypassion said:

I'm tempted to have a punt at a no previous history GT4 purchase although I would be crossing my fingers they will offer pdk. Now I did call into jct leeds last year and was not really impressed. Got the impression I wouldn't get anywhere there. Although having not bought from them I did point out at the time I had a 987 and an aircooled 911 so I am a "Porsche person" I could do with finding an OPC that places some value on someone that's taken the time and a lot of money to keep one of their iconic cars on the road. Maybe rocking up in a Mexico blue backdate might do the trick!

JCT Leeds are one of the biggest OPCs and whilst they get the allocations they also have the top customers with serious buying power.

I have never found them good to deal with from experience several years back.

I believe they’re the biggest/highest selling in the country