12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
Discussion
Ej74 said:
Warranty is 600 is not the end of the world to extend
Agree good value at standard Cayman/Boxster price.Plus the 111 point check. Any ignitions in rev range 4 will require engine compression test
Plus the 3 month wait following ownership transfer if through non OPC dealer
Plus any other issues they flag up before they agree to it usually resulting in a major service
Porsche911R said:
boxsey said:
Yep, good value but being black will be an issue for many (dreary colour and a sod to look after).
looks great value, and now you can pay £600 for a ceramic coating, blacks not so bad these days.
av185 said:
Folding buckets are slightly narrower at the hips if not at the shoulders.
and lighter ;-) and heated and folding and less upright if you want to go into detail ;-) inc being a bit tighter.had 2 cars with 918 seats, thank god I don't have to suffer them ever again, my 2 current cars have Carbon Folding for the 5 reasons stated above :-)
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 1st February 13:11
boxsey said:
So that's £600 for the coating, £300 for the 111 point check and £1200 for a 2 year warranty. Therefore that's put the price up to £75089 and assumes Porsche don't find anything that needs doing during the check...and it'll still be boring black.
depends, I have never PPF or ceramic coated a car and I have never taken out a warranty extension. (ok slight lie I did the sills on the GT4 as they would get battered to death due to no paint protection by POrsche and no side skirts on a GT4.)my 996 GT3 looked ok ;-)
I do think people are OTT on PPF, coatings and warranty,111 checks but personal choice/risk etc.
I must be about £300k up on 73 cars never adding any of that tat lol, but I did have to buy a £65 exhaust bracket for my 987.2 spyder :-)
Porsche911R said:
I do think people are OTT on PPF, coatings and warranty,111 checks but personal choice/risk etc.
I did the rough calculation just to point out that while a car at a non-Porsche dealer might look good value (as the black one does), it starts to edge towards an OPC price when the Porsche warranty and checks are factored in. As you say, to keep it looking good value a buyer would have to risk going without the warranty.Porsche911R said:
boxsey said:
So that's £600 for the coating, £300 for the 111 point check and £1200 for a 2 year warranty. Therefore that's put the price up to £75089 and assumes Porsche don't find anything that needs doing during the check...and it'll still be boring black.
depends, I have never PPF or ceramic coated a car and I have never taken out a warranty extension. (ok slight lie I did the sills on the GT4 as they would get battered to death due to no paint protection by POrsche and no side skirts on a GT4.)my 996 GT3 looked ok ;-)
I do think people are OTT on PPF, coatings and warranty,111 checks but personal choice/risk etc.
I must be about £300k up on 73 cars never adding any of that tat lol, but I did have to buy a £65 exhaust bracket for my 987.2 spyder :-)
Rsx Boy said:
So is circa 70k the money now ?
Where does this leave the 90k cars such as at Hilmoren ?
I recently took advantage of the current market availability and bought one. Where does this leave the 90k cars such as at Hilmoren ?
What became apparent very quickly during the hunt is how used some are (interior not smelling new, excessive damage to the radiators etc), what a really well specced car looks and feels like and what a “poverty” spec car looks and feels like.
Like that Black car theres a 675 LT at a certain dealer for what appears to be a bargain... there will always be cheaper cars.
Current market is still £80k ish from my recent trawling for the nicer unmolested (still new smelling!) cars. The low 70s are definitely less desirable colours and spec. It’s still 70k +.. so to buy a “used” feeling car without some of the nicer options?
718 GT4/Spyder Now its a 3.8L and its going to be expensive
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/porsche/po...
► Latest Cayman GT4 spotted
► Set to be another classic
► 3.8-litre flat-six
Nothing sticks around forever. The base 718 Cayman models have lost their six-cylinder engines, the Porsche 911 has gained turbochargers across the board and the manual gearbox is an endangered species throughout the car world. But when the second-generation 718 Cayman GT4 is released into the wild at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in July, it will contain no turbochargers and – at first – no automatic gearbox option. The ultimate pure driver’s car remains just that.
‘The current formula is too convincing to change it for the sake of changing,’ says Frank-Steffen Walliser, who on 1 January took over R&D responsibility for sports cars from Gustl Achleitner (the famous ‘Mister 911’, retiring after nearly two decades in charge of the 911 model series). ‘Instead, we concentrated on making a very good car even better.’
While the manual gearbox is the transmission of choice for the first year of production, the second wave scheduled to arrive in late 2020 can indeed also be ordered with the slicker, quicker-shifting PDK twin-clutch auto. But it will be an option, not mandatory
Tell me about the engine
The revised GT4 engine receives a significant power boost from 375 to 420bhp, give or take a couple of horses. In addition to the extra muscle, the 3.8-litre flat-six comes equipped with the latest de-smogging kit which typically affects fuel economy and power output – but not in this case. The performance data is not yet confirmed, but the Weissach grapevine suggests that the hottest Porsche 718 can sprint from zero to 62mph in four seconds flat and reach a maximum speed of over 185mph.
Is it still a bargain?
Likely to be priced in excess of £90,000 (its predecessor’s original £64k list price really was a bargain), the ultimate Cayman loses 50kg thanks to an extensive substitution of materials, thinner glass, fewer electrically operated aids and hollow-spoke wheels.
Visual distinctions include even bigger nasal air intakes, flared lateral nostrils, a wider rear air dam with deep winglets, air breathers in the front bumper and a pronounced rear diffuser, which accommodates two giant tailpipes set farther apart than before. Over the last few months we've had spyshots which confirm the look of the new car, and you can see more of them in the gallery above, too.
The fixed rear air deflector goes up in size and angle, the already svelte supports for the rear wing and the door mirrors have slimmed down even further, and the daytime running lights are piercing LEDs. Rims and tyres, wheelarches, front splitter, sill extensions, springs, dampers and anti-roll bars are bigger, stiffer and tuned for speed, not comfort. Inside, we find optional 918-style buckets, GT4-specific digital instruments and upgraded infotainment.
That's also all confirmed by some pretty serious prototypes we've seen: check out the full-width rear wing and diffuser on our spy photos (above). Twin exhuasts complete the look. Other telltale giveaways that this is a protoype is a GT-series Porsche are the lightweight alloy wheels wrapped in liquorice-thin, track-focused tyres, the lower ride height and Porsche's composite brake discs the size of brass band cymbals.
It’s just as well the GT4 remains loyal to its charming old-school concept considering the fact that by 2022 the 718 replacement is due to jump on the all-electric bandwagon, suggesting that the four-cylinder combustion engine will die together with the current-generation Boxster/Cayman twins at the end of 2023 if not before. High-revving naturally aspirated sports cars with three pedals in the footwell are a dying breed – let’s enjoy them while we can.
Rehash of forum chat and known speculation.
Nothing new.
We await the official announcement.
I did read somewhere ref the announced Race car that the exhaust positioning is the reason for the change in sound.
The central twin exits are tuned for a high pitch sounds, whilst the new positioning gives a sound more like earlier pre-997 flat sixes
Nothing new.
We await the official announcement.
I did read somewhere ref the announced Race car that the exhaust positioning is the reason for the change in sound.
The central twin exits are tuned for a high pitch sounds, whilst the new positioning gives a sound more like earlier pre-997 flat sixes
Edited by TDT on Tuesday 5th February 19:59
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