12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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Cheib

23,217 posts

175 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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RacerMike said:
Wasn’t it the last financial crisis that drove the prices of all the cars up though? Not to say it will, and I certainly don’t care as I’ll be driving mine, but as with all these things, trying to buy at the ‘right’ time is just as much a gamble as buying to earn money via flipping.
Car prices went up mostly because interest rates were so low that people looked to park their money elsewhere....combined with prices that had been in the doldrums for a while and we had a bubble.

This time interest rates were already very low, there are an awful lot more cars around and I would say the immediate impact on the economy this time has been brutal.

GT3Manthey

4,513 posts

49 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Cheib said:
Car prices went up mostly because interest rates were so low that people looked to park their money elsewhere....combined with prices that had been in the doldrums for a while and we had a bubble.

This time interest rates were already very low, there are an awful lot more cars around and I would say the immediate impact on the economy this time has been brutal.
Partly true but then rates are even lower now. You have a valid point though in that the impact of this scenario is looking more severe than the financial crisis as its pretty much unknown and we've not been here before so dealing with it and fully understanding the full impact is hard to predict.

However, there is already a big government stimulus being put into place, banks wont fold and whilst cars may not be worth what owners have paid it just means that most will keep them and not sell.

The impact is more for the car dealers that need to move stock to make a profit and release cash which will have an effect on car values.

Just my 2p of course

cc3

2,795 posts

116 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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If you are old enough to remember the classic car bubble of the late 80’s and crash of early 90’s people watched the value of their Porsche and Ferrari go up and up so they borrowed more and more money ( high interest rates in those days) and when the crash came values went down a min of 40% and up to 60% for some models. Many a bankruptcy followed History could well repeat itself

GT3Manthey

4,513 posts

49 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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cc3 said:
If you are old enough to remember the classic car bubble of the late 80’s and crash of early 90’s people watched the value of their Porsche and Ferrari go up and up so they borrowed more and more money ( high interest rates in those days) and when the crash came values went down a min of 40% and up to 60% for some models. Many a bankruptcy followed History could well repeat itself
That's sealed it then , i'm keeping mine forever!

RSVP911

8,192 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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cc3 said:
If you are old enough to remember the classic car bubble of the late 80’s and crash of early 90’s people watched the value of their Porsche and Ferrari go up and up so they borrowed more and more money ( high interest rates in those days) and when the crash came values went down a min of 40% and up to 60% for some models. Many a bankruptcy followed History could well repeat itself
Yep bottom line is if you suddenly need cash you can’t just sit on a depreciating asset - cars are going to be much cheaper going forward for a while .

zedmtrappe

246 posts

96 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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RacerMike said:
Wasn’t it the last financial crisis that drove the prices of all the cars up though?
It would definitely be a mistake to compare the 2008 dip to the unholy ststorm we've got heading our way...

cc3

2,795 posts

116 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Put your reg in webuyanycar then you will see how serious things are !!

RacerMike

4,198 posts

211 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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anonymous said:
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All that confirms is that they’re trying to take advantage of people in a st situation!

cc3

2,795 posts

116 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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RacerMike said:
All that confirms is that they’re trying to take advantage of people in a st situation!
what it confirms is that is the real value of your car if you have lost your job and need to get out of the finance or need the cash. That’s what thousands of people will shortly need to do

daro911

769 posts

252 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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cc3 said:
Put your reg in webuyanycar then you will see how serious things are !!
A neighbour had a quote from them 2 weeks ago on his wife's car £21500

The next day from another similar site that puts the car out to many other buyers he got offered and took £22500

Yesterday We Buy Any Cars sent him a revised offer £13000

That is actual facts on what can happen in just the beginning of a global financial meltdown

Stay Safe

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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WBAC are taking the piss, however they are in many cases the buyer of last resort for used cars.

Their valuations are used by many car dealers (large and small) to test PX values. The fact they have chopped 25% off most valuions (between mid Feb and mid March) doesn't mean that all cars in all cases are now worth 75% of the value they were 4 weeks ago, but it dose signal a significant shift. If I was selling today I would be taking any genuine bid (no matter how painfully low) seriously.

I was speaking with a director of a large group, that includes many prestigious brands, their quarterly used car value write downs are likely to average close to 30%. (Jan to March)

None of this matters if you don't need to sell, there might even be a bounce up in values latter in the year. However if you do need to sell, there are a lot less buyers, and potentially more sellers today, and rule 1 of demand and supply suggests this results in lower values.

In late 2008 I bought a 2 owner, high mile 993 4S manual couple for £17k - think about that for a moment.










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LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Wilmslowboy said:
In late 2008 I bought a 2 owner, high mile 993 4S manual couple for £17k - think about that for a moment.
We know, you mention it on every thread hehebeer

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
We know, you mention it on every thread hehebeer
Wrong - I mention I sold it 18 months later, having put about £4K into it for £20k biggrin


Sharing the story, helps with the pain.........

RSVP911

8,192 posts

133 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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daro911 said:
cc3 said:
Put your reg in webuyanycar then you will see how serious things are !!
A neighbour had a quote from them 2 weeks ago on his wife's car £21500

The next day from another similar site that puts the car out to many other buyers he got offered and took £22500

Yesterday We Buy Any Cars sent him a revised offer £13000

That is actual facts on what can happen in just the beginning of a global financial meltdown

Stay Safe
This is really interesting and in truth not surprising - it’s dropped about 1/3 - as has the FTSE - makes sense to me.

I wouldn’t sell any assets now if you can possibly help it (realise some people will unfortunately not have a choice)

Sun is shining today - going for a drive to get away from Covid 19 !

Yidwann

1,872 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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There will be a Miami Blue one coming up soon as Supercar Harry seems to have chopped his in already!

CorrosionInhibitor

375 posts

97 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Yidwann said:
There will be a Miami Blue one coming up soon as Supercar Harry seems to have chopped his in already!
He is to “supercar” as Paddy McGuiness is to funny and entertainment.

diffstar

467 posts

193 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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CorrosionInhibitor said:
He is to “supercar” as Paddy McGuiness is to funny and entertainment.
Paddy isn’t that bad.....

CorrosionInhibitor

375 posts

97 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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diffstar said:
CorrosionInhibitor said:
He is to “supercar” as Paddy McGuiness is to funny and entertainment.
Paddy isn’t that bad.....
I’d not tire of throwing used blobs at Paddy, that TGI, Shmme and them lot.

I’ve had less irritation from Crabs than watching that lot !



Yidwann

1,872 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Don't really know anything about him, his Dad's speedster is Miami too, and that is not a colour that suits that car, shame.

JiggyJaggy

1,451 posts

140 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Memories of my Agate Grey GT4 in circa 2016. Remembering how great a driver's car this was


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