12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
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It could be, but this is a forum for car enthusiasts.
It used to be the case that a three year old 911 was worth 60% of its new cost. That was exceptionally good.
If we get back to that, the same questions will arise regarding the cost and value of certain accessories.
Yes there are speculators, but who would want to see the genuine owner / drivers punished ?
As a matter of fact, I have just bought a six month old Lotus Exige 410 Sport with 1200 miles on the clock at £30k below it's new cost price ... but new cars are now being discounted by £10k. When in six months ? I can drive it again, I believe it will still be good value.
GT4's will have to fall a long way to see this level of deprecation ... and Lotus' hold their value because numbers are so low ... (29 in 2019 ?) ...
It used to be the case that a three year old 911 was worth 60% of its new cost. That was exceptionally good.
If we get back to that, the same questions will arise regarding the cost and value of certain accessories.
Yes there are speculators, but who would want to see the genuine owner / drivers punished ?
As a matter of fact, I have just bought a six month old Lotus Exige 410 Sport with 1200 miles on the clock at £30k below it's new cost price ... but new cars are now being discounted by £10k. When in six months ? I can drive it again, I believe it will still be good value.
GT4's will have to fall a long way to see this level of deprecation ... and Lotus' hold their value because numbers are so low ... (29 in 2019 ?) ...
cc3 said:
Deep recession coupled with a fundamental change in how many people look at their priorities and the luxury: sports car market will be even more niche
Hopefully if there is any good to come out of this virus then the days of people arguing over how much their Porsche is worth will be over as well as those debating if they should spend £5k on buckets or £2k on 18 way sports seats will be very distasteful when millions are out of work and millions of others are struggling to rebuild their business and lives.
This could be worse than the classic car crash of early 90’s
wishful thinking .Hopefully if there is any good to come out of this virus then the days of people arguing over how much their Porsche is worth will be over as well as those debating if they should spend £5k on buckets or £2k on 18 way sports seats will be very distasteful when millions are out of work and millions of others are struggling to rebuild their business and lives.
This could be worse than the classic car crash of early 90’s
cc3 said:
Hopefully if there is any good to come out of this virus then the days of people arguing over how much their Porsche is worth will be over as well as those debating if they should spend £5k on buckets or £2k on 18 way sports seats will be very distasteful when millions are out of work and millions of others are struggling to rebuild their business and lives.
Speaks volumes that you were clearly sufficiently interested to read the subject thread in some considerable depth. 
Don’t know why people get so defensive it’s a simple logic that in the roll out of an economic disaster, discretionary luxury goods take a hammering. The stock market is 35% down and in my opinion will go further. Why should a car be immune? For the ‘agenda theorists’ given I bought one of these discretionary luxury cars myself some 3-4 weeks ago not sure what my agenda would be. Perhaps I’m trying to talk down the value so I can lose more. It’s a car. In the present climate who gives a monkeys.
av185 said:
Second posting merely confirms someone has an obvious agenda/big chip on their shoulder lol.
If you mean me no agenda just realism after decades of experience clearing up the mess left by deep recessions. Not pretty at all when people / businesses have over extended themselves and the economy goes bang. What people think their assets are worth can be for the birds. Forced sale work on less than 50% of what you think it is worth. It can be a brutal business. av185 said:
Speaks volumes that you were clearly sufficiently interested to read the subject thread in some considerable depth.
No surprise at all I own a couple of Porsche cars !! No longer have a GT4 but still enjoy a nice car at my age but I couldn’t care less if it has buckets etc or what it’s value is today compared with yesterday. More important things in life !!
ChrisW. said:
As a matter of fact, I have just bought a six month old Lotus Exige 410 Sport with 1200 miles on the clock at £30k below it's new cost price ... but new cars are now being discounted by £10k. When in six months ? I can drive it again, I believe it will still be good value.
Congrats Chris - will be good to get your thought on this v your GT4.I had a good morning in an 410 Sport at Silverstone last year... it was chucking down - very cool, but different proposition to the GT4 - more immediate, raw and connected, very focussed on just the driving... GT4 being a bigger car - more usable/everyday.
JiggyJaggy said:
Anyone talking about the actual cars here? Yawn.
Anyone preferred the previous GT4 over the new one? Am concidering getting into one of them again and truly torn between the looks of both.
My opinion having owned both, if you want a road car take the 718 if it is mainly track work probably the 981 but I as yet have not used my 718 on track.Anyone preferred the previous GT4 over the new one? Am concidering getting into one of them again and truly torn between the looks of both.
I think the 718 looks the best, its steering and chassis is better, the 981 sounds much better and is probably a bit more hardcore. All just my opinion taking into account my 718 is not yet fully run in.
If you're leaving the cars stock, the 718 is the winner for me. Better engine being the biggest reason, and a more compliant chassis.
If you're up for modifying, a tweaked 981 will match the 718 or make it better for your use e.g. with more track focused suspension or a custom mapped DSC controller to adjust the shock travel.
To me, the 981 GT4 feels more raw only because the engine is rougher and the suspension less sophisticated IMHO. YMMV
If you're up for modifying, a tweaked 981 will match the 718 or make it better for your use e.g. with more track focused suspension or a custom mapped DSC controller to adjust the shock travel.
To me, the 981 GT4 feels more raw only because the engine is rougher and the suspension less sophisticated IMHO. YMMV
Twinfan said:
To me, the 981 GT4 feels more raw only because the engine is rougher and the suspension less sophisticated IMHO. YMMV
I know the 981 GT4 is 'technically' not a GT engine aren't GT cars known for the roughness of their engines? Mezger certainly were. On the plus side the lump in it is tried and tested.Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff