Cayman R Chat

[frayz]

julian718 said:

Been on the market for a while now. I think the roll cage must be putting people off. The steering wheel and gear knob/boot looks like it has done that usual horrid thing with Alcantera (on touch points) and turned to a shiny brittle finish.

Easy to rectify with some Colourlock cleaner and a small brush. Owning alcantara you just get used to maintaining it. Its clearly been on track with the blistering on the semi slick AR1 tyres and for some reason that puts people off. Alongside the cage, which perosnally i dont find offensive as others do.
Intersting note, it says it has PADM which i wasnt aware came on any Cayman R?

I dont really understand the want for a lightweight special car with features speciafically added in its design to increase its track performance, yet people get funny about it being used on a track?

Who knows, nice car for someone.

[Dissolved]

PaulD86 said:

For more of that road see here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkAT82-R0S8
here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6KFA7p7_aQ
and here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ed8pBMel4

The plate came from https://proplates.co.uk/collections/stick-on-numbe...
They are showing "sold out" at the moment but I wonder if this is more to do with covid related shutdown or something. Plate lacks a postcode but ticks all other boxes re legality from reflectivity to sizes etc. My car passed MoTs with it but I'm sure you may find a jobsworth who'd fail it so I throw the standard plate in the boot in case.

Excellent thank you

julian718 said:

Though if you think about it, the crack in the number plate avoided a crack in the front spoiler, so on reflection I would say a stick on plate, whilst it looks good, is less of a protection buffer.

It's a good point... bloody London drivers!

[julian718]

frayz said:

Easy to rectify with some Colourlock cleaner and a small brush. Owning alcantara you just get used to maintaining it. Its clearly been on track with the blistering on the semi slick AR1 tyres and for some reason that puts people off. Alongside the cage, which perosnally i dont find offensive as others do.
Intersting note, it says it has PADM which i wasnt aware came on any Cayman R?

I dont really understand the want for a lightweight special car with features speciafically added in its design to increase its track performance, yet people get funny about it being used on a track?

Who knows, nice car for someone.

That it has been thrashed around the track, even with impeccable ownership, means all major parts have a questionable shelf life. I can only assume that.

It would put me off, despite the contradiction you rightly raise.

[julian718]

PaulD86 said:

Well I'd certainly avoid the tinted ones as they look awful IMHO, but re legality - The only thing with mine I can find which wouldn't conform to the rules is the lack of makers postcode. Reflectivity seems identical to a standard plastic one when you put them side by side and shine light at them and the font and size are correct. I think you'd need someone very jobsworthy to take issue, but they do exist.

One thing to note - fitting these is a pain in the ass. With the shape of the front being curved it is awkward to get them straight, level and in the middle. You'll also have to fill any holes left by the plate holder - I used a razor blade to cut off the plastic that was proud of the bumper from the OPC screwing on the plate holder and then used gluegun glue to fill the holes (this is easy to use and, as it has some flex in it, will bend with the bumper.

Thanks for your reply Paul. I have since decided its a bad idea as it provides no protection from parking nudges from other cars.

[frayz]

julian718 said:

That it has been thrashed around the track, even with impeccable ownership, means all major parts have a questionable shelf life. I can only assume that.

It would put me off, despite the contradiction you rightly raise.

The other way of looking at it for example:

Car A) Dry stored, used on track, driven on a dry smooth surface well within its design parameters. Serviced and checked over properly, with regualar fluid changes and used as Porsche intended. Has a few more miles and stone chips?

Car B) Lived a life of cold starts, short journeys, parked on a street, and bumbled around pot hole ridden roads, not properly heat cycled or used often. Rubbers and seals get brittle but dont worry because its got low miles and hasnt been used on track though right?

To assume somethings been "thrashed" within an inch of its life is an interseting point. Not all cars driven properly are thrashed so to speak.
As for component life, these are Porsche's. The maker of IMO the finest sports cars on the planet, they dont suddenly fall to pieces because they have been used as a sports car.

Just a different perspective.

[PaulD86]

frayz said:

To assume somethings been "thrashed" within an inch of its life is an interseting point. Not all cars driven properly are thrashed so to speak.
As for component life, these are Porsche's. The maker of IMO the finest sports cars on the planet, they dont suddenly fall to pieces because they have been used as a sports car.

Just a different perspective.

The other day I was watching a video about a GT2RS that had done 1500 laps of the Nurburgring and seemed to be holding up well.

I know everyone seems to go for the low miles cars, but I'm not sure these days I'd want a 10k mile Cayman R. I am genuinely convinved my car seems to run nicer the more I use it and as you mentioned, you have things like seals drying out and bits of the car losing their lubrication. A 10k mile car has done barely more than 1k miles a year.

I'd love a half cage and some straps in my car.... but then I love a car with harnesses cause racecar

[frayz]

PaulD86 said:

The other day I was watching a video about a GT2RS that had done 1500 laps of the Nurburgring and seemed to be holding up well.

I know everyone seems to go for the low miles cars, but I'm not sure these days I'd want a 10k mile Cayman R. I am genuinely convinved my car seems to run nicer the more I use it and as you mentioned, you have things like seals drying out and bits of the car losing their lubrication. A 10k mile car has done barely more than 1k miles a year.

I'd love a half cage and some straps in my car.... but then I love a car with harnesses cause racecar

I've been in the automotive development industry my whole life Paul and cars are machines that work best when used.

My favorite story is the time Porsche took a stock 997 GT3 RS and entered it into the Nurburgring 24 hours. Totally stock road car, drove to the track from Stuttgart, completed the race, drove back again.
https://www.motor1.com/news/21884/standard-porsche...

If someone somewhere owns that vehicle, what a piece of amazing history

[BrotherMouzone]

frayz said:

I've been in the automotive development industry my whole life Paul and cars are machines that work best when used.

My favorite story is the time Porsche took a stock 997 GT3 RS and entered it into the Nurburgring 24 hours. Totally stock road car, drove to the track from Stuttgart, completed the race, drove back again.
https://www.motor1.com/news/21884/standard-porsche...

If someone somewhere owns that vehicle, what a piece of amazing history

That car is at Porsche Museum

[frayz]

BrotherMouzone said:

That car is at Porsche Museum

I guessed it probably would have been kept there. I've had numerous visits to the museum and its not been on display when ive been.
What a cool machine though

[tobie]

frayz said:

I guessed it probably would have been kept there. I've had numerous visits to the museum and its not been on display when ive been.
What a cool machine though

There is a guy on here who did a combined 320k miles between a 996 GT3 and 997 GT3, what a hero! Cars with low miles really put me off (for a multitude of reasons), something well used/abused (but well cared for) for is a much more attractive proposition to me!

[WingNut]

@breakfan nice to meet you Marco. Enjoy!

[julian718]

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/features/352672/grea...

[julian718]

Hi
A naive question, how much of the bonnet/front wings do you see when driving a Cayman? I know its not going to be like a Mustang, but do you get a sense/sight of the front or does it swoop away really fast and all you see is, in effect, only the road ahead.

[Budflicker]

You can see the rise of the front wings.

The driving position is fantastic in the bucket seats, I've been out for a 50 mile spin in mine this afternoon, not drivin it for a while and it didn't disappoint.

[julian718]

Budflicker said:

You can see the rise of the front wings.

The driving position is fantastic in the bucket seats, I've been out for a 50 mile spin in mine this afternoon, not drivin it for a while and it didn't disappoint.

Thanks for confirming. That is really good to know.

[julian718]

Would you say this chaps assessment of the R is accurate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivg4yJizRkg

He seems to not like the ride, the buckets, the suspension, the gears, there isn't much he doesn't like. First review I have ever seen which is not a gushing review of the car.

[Budflicker]

julian718 said:

Would you say this chaps assessment of the R is accurate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivg4yJizRkg

He seems to not like the ride, the buckets, the suspension, the gears, there isn't much he doesn't like. First review I have ever seen which is not a gushing review of the car.

Hi Julian

I would disagree, but I do own one so may have unconscious bias.

The Suspension is one of it's best features over an S, passive shocks, no PASM and perfect spring rates for B roads.
The seats are very comfortable, in fact everybody who gets in the car comments how comfy they are for a bucket seat. They are tricky to get in and out of though.

The gears are fine, you can go fast in third yes but it's not stupid.

You need to drive one, I don't think you will be disappointed.





And a drivers view shot of the wings

[julian718]

Budflicker said:

Hi Julian

I would disagree, but I do own one so may have unconscious bias.

The Suspension is one of it's best features over an S, passive shocks, no PASM and perfect spring rates for B roads.
The seats are very comfortable, in fact everybody who gets in the car comments how comfy they are for a bucket seat. They are tricky to get in and out of though.

The gears are fine, you can go fast in third yes but it's not stupid.

You need to drive one, I don't think you will be disappointed.





And a drivers view shot of the wings

Thank you! I have bought one, that Black one a few pages back on the thread. Just waiting for lockdown restrictions in Wales to relax more before I can pick it up. Great to know there is a view of the front, and good to hear your thoughts on that review as it suddenly turned me off and made me question if I am making the right decision or not.

[frayz]

The damping and ride on the R is superb for our roads. Only really on track does it start to show its limits, (which I have to say are way beyond mine)
I certainly wouldn’t question your purchase of a superb sports car down to one Americans opinion with 5 subscribers. Lol.

[Joehow]

A Cayman R is an incredible car, easily one of my favourites and I have had a few Porsches.

I preferred it as a tool over my 981 GTS and 981 Spyder.