Cayman R Chat

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julian987R

3,361 posts

36 months

Saturday 14th May
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squirdan said:
Resto157 said:
Hi guy’s,

Looking for some advise on purchasing an R, new to the world of Porsche and wanted to know what common issues to look for? If there are any big ticket service items or common issues that need to be addressed etc.

What are servicing costs like at a specialist?

Are there any specialist that offer a pre sale inspection?

Cheers
Adam
Relatively bullet proof
Some niggly items eg coolant crossover pipes, rotted radiators, tired dampers etc
Gearshift cables can also go
Some say underbraked as standard
Exhaust valves / connections rust

No generic engine or box issues with these

Rpm, JZM, Ashgood, 9e are all specialists who know them inside out. I had a minor service done at Porsche recently for £650

They can be warrantied so consider that if a car you find has full OPC history

Spec is key:

Carbon buckets
PSE
Manual
Spyder wheels
Climate
Sports chrono
Sports steering wheel

We can point you in the direction of a veritable “investment” car in green for £60k if you are mad or loaded

Or like everyone else you’ll prob end up with a white one for £40-45k because that’s the right money and there are more white than any other colour


Edited by squirdan on Saturday 14th May 15:17
Nice white one listed today,
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205145...

sub 30k miles. No PSE, but all other boxes ticked.

Andyoz

2,550 posts

31 months

Saturday 14th May
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julian987R said:
squirdan said:
Resto157 said:
Hi guy’s,

Looking for some advise on purchasing an R, new to the world of Porsche and wanted to know what common issues to look for? If there are any big ticket service items or common issues that need to be addressed etc.

What are servicing costs like at a specialist?

Are there any specialist that offer a pre sale inspection?

Cheers
Adam
Relatively bullet proof
Some niggly items eg coolant crossover pipes, rotted radiators, tired dampers etc
Gearshift cables can also go
Some say underbraked as standard
Exhaust valves / connections rust

No generic engine or box issues with these

Rpm, JZM, Ashgood, 9e are all specialists who know them inside out. I had a minor service done at Porsche recently for £650

They can be warrantied so consider that if a car you find has full OPC history

Spec is key:

Carbon buckets
PSE
Manual
Spyder wheels
Climate
Sports chrono
Sports steering wheel

We can point you in the direction of a veritable “investment” car in green for £60k if you are mad or loaded

Or like everyone else you’ll prob end up with a white one for £40-45k because that’s the right money and there are more white than any other colour


Edited by squirdan on Saturday 14th May 15:17
Nice white one listed today,
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202205145...

sub 30k miles. No PSE, but all other boxes ticked.
Big money for a private sale without PSE. Need decent pictures too as those are shocking.

Markets changed...it's not 2021 anymore and sellers still don't seem to realise the difference between Dealer and Private prices.

Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Saturday 14th May
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squirdan said:
Slippydiff said:
Finding another Porsche that has similar or equal performance to a 964 RS isn’t overly difficult, my guess is a Gen 2 987 Boxster or Cayman would be fulfil that brief, however you’ll not get close to the driving experience provided by the older car, nor indeed the tactility or engagement.
As for the R being anything like as “special” as the RS, it doesn’t come close I’m afraid.
And neither does the cost at about 33pc !
I meant to say a Gen 2 2.9 Cayman or Boxster would provide the same performance as the 964 RS, but irrespective of that, my other comment still stands, because irrespective of price, no Cayman comes close to the driving experience the 964 RS affords its driver.

The Cayman, any Cayman, does what it says on the tin, and it does amazingly well (brilliantly some may say) but it falls well short of pretty much any aircooled car (and doesn’t come anywhere close to a 964 RS) when the metrics are tactility and engagement, and even if the prices of the 964 RS fell by 50% and the prices of Cayman R’s doubled, nothing would change from that perspective.

I didn’t publicise the fact, but I bought a Gen 2 987 3.4S last Summer (it’s the white car currently up for sale at 911Virgin) I bought it right, and it’s a cracking car with a great spec, but I drove it on three occasions late last Summer/early Autumn and quickly realised it didn’t engage or excite me at all, so Tom and Dan kindly sold it on my behalf earlier this year.

In the brief time I owned it, I realised it was every bit as quick as the Guards red R I owned, but was actually more comfortable and quieter than the R, but ultimately it was never going to be a car I’d bond with or indeed open the garage door on with any degree of relish when it came to the thought of driving it.

For all their brilliance, the mid-engined 987/981/718 cars are just too easy to drive quickly, and too anodyne, ultimately they’re a polished consumer product, and thus lack the depth of character a 911, or more accurately any 911 pre 991 (and some may even may say pre 997.1) has as an intrinsic part of its DNA, but rest assured, that doesn’t make them bad cars, merely different.

smile


julian987R

3,361 posts

36 months

Saturday 14th May
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Slippydiff said:
.... (it’s the white car currently up for sale at 911Virgin)
is it the one with the blue wheels as that looks brilliant....and if so was that a factory option at the time?

Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May
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julian987R said:
is it the one with the blue wheels as that looks brilliant....and if so was that a factory option at the time?
Yep, that’s the one.
It was supplied from the factory with gloss black wheels (the entire wheel) mirrors and the grills in the rear quarter panels.

ATM

14,697 posts

196 months

Sunday 15th May
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julian987R said:
Slippydiff said:
.... (it’s the white car currently up for sale at 911Virgin)
is it the one with the blue wheels as that looks brilliant....and if so was that a factory option at the time?
I think this looks expensive at 30 grand

https://911virgin.com/listings/cayman-987-2-3-4s-m...


swanny71

2,429 posts

186 months

Sunday 15th May
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ATM said:
I think this looks expensive at 30 grand

https://911virgin.com/listings/cayman-987-2-3-4s-m...

Especially with clown coloured wheels…

Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May
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ATM said:
I think this looks expensive at 30 grand

https://911virgin.com/listings/cayman-987-2-3-4s-m...

I’d say it’s the going rate in an asset bubble that’s probably nearing its peak.
But rest assured, when I say I bought it “right” last Summer, I did smile

And trust me when I say the “clown” wheels look far better than the murdered out gloss black ones...

Andyoz

2,550 posts

31 months

Sunday 15th May
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swanny71 said:
ATM said:
I think this looks expensive at 30 grand

https://911virgin.com/listings/cayman-987-2-3-4s-m...

Especially with clown coloured wheels…
Dare you to say that the next RS owner you meet at the local CnC smilesmile


Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May
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The Mk 2 996 GT3 John Major limited edition :




The Mk 2 996 GT3 Silvio Berlusconi limited edition :






swanny71

2,429 posts

186 months

Sunday 15th May
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Slippydiff said:
The Mk 2 996 GT3 Silvio Berlusconi limited edition
rofl

Wikipedia said:
Berlusconi is a controversial figure in modern Italian politics: his tenure as Prime Minister was racked with scandalous sex affairs and poor judgement and decision-making


swanny71

2,429 posts

186 months

Sunday 15th May
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Andyoz said:
Dare you to say that the next RS owner you meet at the local CnC smilesmile
GT3 RS is probably special enough to pull it off….a normal Cayman S is not.

Of course I wouldn’t say that to an owner, in person or on a forum.
But, a car that’s currently for sale, doesn’t suit baby blue wheels or have them from factory is fair game for comment (even if some find it a little harsh).

julian987R

3,361 posts

36 months

Vincent-Vega

23 posts

Sunday 15th May
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julian987R said:
That's funked, and I also like how the passenger seat has been washed down.

The passenger must have literally st themselves.

julian987R

3,361 posts

36 months

Sunday 15th May
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Vincent-Vega said:
julian987R said:
That's funked, and I also like how the passenger seat has been washed down.

The passenger must have literally st themselves.
Airbags don't seem to have deployed. Hope whomever was involved are ok.
i think that is rain water. it always seems with these places they leave these cars with broken windows to the elements.....at least put a tarpaulin over it.



jimmy p

870 posts

143 months

Sunday 15th May
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I don't think those seats belong to that car, suspect someone has took the carbon buckets out. These have sports seats if no buckets and they are bog standard cayman/boxster ones

ajondyh

640 posts

101 months

Sunday 15th May
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Looks like wrong steering wheel as well

ajondyh

640 posts

101 months

Sunday 15th May
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Slippydiff said:
ATM said:
I think this looks expensive at 30 grand

https://911virgin.com/listings/cayman-987-2-3-4s-m...

I’d say it’s the going rate in an asset bubble that’s probably nearing its peak.
But rest assured, when I say I bought it “right” last Summer, I did smile

And trust me when I say the “clown” wheels look far better than the murdered out gloss black ones...
I quite like the wheels and decals. It would look a bit better if it were lowered I think.

Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May
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swanny71 said:
rofl

Wikipedia said:
Berlusconi is a controversial figure in modern Italian politics: his tenure as Prime Minister was racked with scandalous sex affairs and poor judgement and decision-making
Because Major was a game changer in British politics, every decision he made was well judged, and he turned out to be a real paragon of virtue, didn’t he ? hehe

But if you choose to use Wikipedia as your go to reference in such matters ...

Berlusconi may well be “controversial” but at least he had charisma, not something you could accuse Major of, and Major’s choice of mistress left something to be desired compared to Berlusconi’s ...



Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Sunday 15th May
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ajondyh said:
I quite like the wheels and decals. It would look a bit better if it were lowered I think.
About 40mm would do it smile