Cayman R Chat

[Slippydiff]

nicklambo said:

Platinum Silver for the win!

On the contrary, special order Ferrari Giallo for the win.

[Jones the cat]

Manual with Girodiscs and many mods listed!




https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202601169...

Edited by Jones the cat on Friday 16th January 21:18

[Rsx Boy]

That white car is on Ohlins too !!!
Nice spec for someone out in CR land.

[Armitage.Shanks]

I'm liking that. It is the colour I want along with all the extras but I think with the suspension mods it's going to be too hardcore and clearly focused on track work whereas I'd probably do more fast road stuff where our st potholed roads won't help it.

[Jones the cat]

Armitage.Shanks said:

I'm liking that. It is the colour I want along with all the extras but I think with the suspension mods it's going to be too hardcore and clearly focused on track work whereas I'd probably do more fast road stuff where our st potholed roads won't help it.

but it says its 'Road and Track coilovers'. They must be adjustable for road use.

[Rsx Boy]

Look what's coming soon on Collecting Cars.....

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-9...

[Jones the cat]

Rsx Boy said:

Look what's coming soon on Collecting Cars.....

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-9...

i remember when that last came up fro sale.
RPM had it
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/porsche-sales/vehicle/987...

Its nice but prefer Guards Red for the R than the Ruby Metallic.

[Rsx Boy]

Looks like it's sold

Jones the cat said:

Manual with Girodiscs and many mods listed!




https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202601169...

Edited by Jones the cat on Friday 16th January 21:18

[ATM]

Jones the cat said:

but it says its 'Road and Track coilovers'. They must be adjustable for road use.

In general I believe Ohlins name their coilovers - or one of them - Road and Track and these have quite firm / hard springs. I think the idea is you set the twiddly knobs for damper controls to softer for road and then harder for track so you get 2 setups or some adjustability yes. Think of this like a dumb PASM without the electronics. But a coil over with very stiff springs and dampers on soft settings will be still be firm if you start crashing into potholes. No amount of damper tweaking can negate all the effects of a fixed rock hard metal spring.

[Slippydiff]

ATM said:

In general I believe Ohlins name their coilovers - or one of them - Road and Track and these have quite firm / hard springs. I think the idea is you set the twiddly knobs for damper controls to softer for road and then harder for track so you get 2 setups or some adjustability yes. Think of this like a dumb PASM without the electronics. But a coil over with very stiff springs and dampers on soft settings will be still be firm if you start crashing into potholes. No amount of damper tweaking can negate all the effects of a fixed rock hard metal spring.

This ^
Even with the softer spring rates Ohlins offered as an option, they were compromised from my perspective, because they were just too stiff.
You'd need to go with custom spring rates to make them nicely road compliant in the manner the OE CR spring/damper combination is.

[JJ77]

Jones the cat said:

i remember when that last came up fro sale.
RPM had it
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/porsche-sales/vehicle/987...

Its nice but prefer Guards Red for the R than the Ruby Metallic.

I remember test driving this when Cridfords had it, 2 things stood out, knew immediately this car needed the manual box, and the ride was stiff. I would imagine the manuals are the the ones to have and a premium and in 2026 on UK roads, this suspension wouldn’t been enjoyable unless in Scotland. Think it was without PASM this model.

[Armitage.Shanks]

Thanks for the explanation. The car above was definitely not for me. I did thnk of giving the seller a call today given it's only an hour and half away but it appears to have sold already.

[frayz]

JJ77 said:

I remember test driving this when Cridfords had it, 2 things stood out, knew immediately this car needed the manual box, and the ride was stiff. I would imagine the manuals are the the ones to have and a premium and in 2026 on UK roads, this suspension wouldn t been enjoyable unless in Scotland. Think it was without PASM this model.

All Cayman Rs came without PASM. They were all on a passive Bilsten damper.

[ChrisW.]

And the car drove beautifully on its passive dampers ... Porsche obviously chose well ...

Edited by ChrisW. on Tuesday 20th January 14:52

[jayxx83]

Slippydiff said:

This ^
Even with the softer spring rates Ohlins offered as an option, they were compromised from my perspective, because they were just too stiff.
You'd need to go with custom spring rates to make them nicely road compliant in the manner the OE CR spring/damper combination is.

I have R&T on mine, key is to getting them set up correctly. Slightly softer rates at 50/70 front to rear but its definitely not uncomfortable, just so plush and compliant. Have had 40k miles using them now and one rebuild when they had been on for 30k miles. Wouldn't do anything else for casual fast road use on this car and the odd track day.

Stock seems to be a bit pogoish on rough roads below 40 mph but then glides along the surface above 50 mph. All depends on what you prioritise. i just love great suspension.

[Slippydiff]

jayxx83 said:

I have R&T on mine, key is to getting them set up correctly. Slightly softer rates at 50/70 front to rear but its definitely not uncomfortable, just so plush and compliant. Have had 40k miles using them now and one rebuild when they had been on for 30k miles. Wouldn't do anything else for casual fast road use on this car and the odd track day.

Stock seems to be a bit pogoish on rough roads below 40 mph but then glides along the surface above 50 mph. All depends on what you prioritise. i just love great suspension.

Agree with all of that, but the trade off for brilliant chassis control at higher speeds was worth the slightly jiggly ride beneath 40mph.

I drove a 987.2 S that had been fitted with the laughable rates Ohlins had originally foisted on the poor individuals who bought the early R&Ts, the owner of the car found them waaaay too stiff for UK roads, so when Ohlins finally bothered to do the necessary R&D and offered a set of springs with softer rates front and rear, he went to the considerable expense of buying them and paying to have them fitted.

I drove the car with the softer springs rates, and on the well surfaced roads outside of the village he lived in, the ride and handling was excellent, when we got back into the village and traversed a recent poorly filled utility excavation/backfill, the rear suspension was incredibly harsh and unable to deal with the road surface. It was so bad, it put me off buying the car.

I run a set of Ohlins R&Ts on my 996.2, albeit with spring rates many percent softer than even the reduced rates Ohlins offer.

The car rides and handles beautifully, but most 996 owners who've fitted the R&T's (even with the Ohlins official softer spring, say they're too stiff solely for road use.

I love great suspension too and whilst the R&Ts are good, the combined compression/rebound adjustment is "disappointing".

I ran these on my 996 GT3 and GT2, they were the canine's gonads, but they're a somewhat different price point altogether ... :

[jayxx83]

Awesome feedback there.

I guess its so subjective. I love the rear on mine. They were pretty good when set up by BG motorsport but come rebuild time i did all new coffin arms with poly bushes in and out on front and rear & engine mount insert.

On the front it was way to harsh. Like horrible to drive. Got CG to do a new corner balance, align and set up and put stock coffin arms back on the front and its bliss now.

They did put 15mm of preload into the spring whereas BG only put the recommended 2mm.

Ride height is set to -5mm lower than Spyder / R stock.

One touch in the throttle mid bends and its so responsive, like no slack in the system. Its literally perfect for fast road and you can really ramp up the damping for track or smoother european roads.

I guess it a lot to spend when in reality stock is incredible, but if its a keeper and has to be the way you have to have it, you wont be dissapointed.

[ATM]

Jones the cat said:

Rsx Boy said:

Look what's coming soon on Collecting Cars.....

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-9...

i remember when that last came up fro sale.
RPM had it
https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/porsche-sales/vehicle/987...

Its nice but prefer Guards Red for the R than the Ruby Metallic.

As it doesn't say so I believe it's still not met reserve

Because I'm doom and gloom about the economy and discretionary spending I predict reserve will not be met or it might get lowered

[Jones the cat]

If its got a reserve, give it a chance for the bids to get a bit higher up there.

[ATM]

Jones the cat said:

If its got a reserve, give it a chance for the bids to get a bit higher up there.

I asked elsewhere about how CC works and was told if it doesn't say No reserve then the opposite is true.