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ATM

21,022 posts

243 months

Sunday 22nd February
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ChrisW. said:
I believe that the Twingo 133 Cup came in at 980 kilos ... (no aircon, simple bench rear seat ... ??)
Dunno

I just asked Google

Still heavier than a Renault 5 GT Turbo at 850. Its an extra 130 kg.

No ABS
No air bags
No AC
No Traction Control
No Cat
No safety cell
No crumple zones
No crash protection

You get the idea

And made of Tin foil

Jones the cat

858 posts

16 months

Sunday 22nd February
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For the Peridot owners, this might be of interest to double up with



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602210...


PaulD86

1,823 posts

150 months

Monday 23rd February
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I think that might be the car a daeler once DM'd me on Instagram trying to convince me would be the perfect pairing for my Cayman. I was not convinced.

There is a chap in Aberdeen who has a 2025 Cayenne in peridot. Got chatting to him in the gym and he believes it may be the only peridot Cayenne of the current generation. I have to say, if someone said "peridot Cayenne" to me I'd have thought it would look terrible, but it actually oddly works in the metal. And a nice change from the usual black, grey or white that most are. The owner has had some rather nice Porsche including a GT3 Touring but says the best one he's ever owned for the road was his Cayman GTS 4litre...

Slippydiff

16,054 posts

247 months

Monday 23rd February
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Jones the cat said:
For the Peridot owners, this might be of interest to double up with



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602210...
Someone's had a go at doing a blow in on the lower section of that rear door ...

Nurburgsingh

5,472 posts

262 months

Monday 23rd February
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Slippydiff said:
Someone's had a go at doing a blow in on the lower section of that rear door ...
Stevie Wonder judging by the colour match

GT03

2,360 posts

204 months

Monday 23rd February
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Slippydiff said:
Colour me less than convinced, don't get me wrong, weight is definitely a large part of it, but so is size. All the cars Chris mentions are small, which in turn makes the roads effectively wider, which means you have more options when it comes cornering lines, and when the roads get narrow, you can still press on, because if you meet a wide car, van, lorry or tractor, you're still in the safe confines of "your side of the road".

I did the hot hatch thing years ago and got it out of my system, so they hold little appeal these days.

Now I'd take an Alpine A110 at 1100kg and 250-300hp. Granted the DCT 'box is sub optimal, but I'd take the mid-engined French car over any 986/987 Cayman or Boxster, as it makes them all look like bloated overweight behemoths.
Totally agree on weight and size - it's why the 987/997 is (IMO) the last generation that feels comfortable on the road.

I drove a mate's Alpine A110S back to back with my 987.2 BS on track a couple of weeks ago. You could immediately feel the light weight of the A110, but the 987 was up there for driving fun, better balanced in the wet, and just as fast (although not quite in a straight line).

They're both the same width - around 1800mm.

Slippydiff

16,054 posts

247 months

Monday 23rd February
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GT03 said:
Totally agree on weight and size - it's why the 987/997 is (IMO) the last generation that feels comfortable on the road.

I drove a mate's Alpine A110S back to back with my 987.2 BS on track a couple of weeks ago. You could immediately feel the light weight of the A110, but the 987 was up there for driving fun, better balanced in the wet, and just as fast (although not quite in a straight line).

They're both the same width - around 1800mm.
Great comparison thumbup

Richard B reckoned his weighed 1250kg with a lightweight aftermarket lithium battery (but his was a no A/C, no stereo, PCCB equipped example) :

https://911uk.com/porsche/clr-spyder.105762/page-2

Any idea what yours tips the scales at ?

GT03

2,360 posts

204 months

Monday 23rd February
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Mine's only an S, perhaps not the right acronym there!

So, plenty heavier than that. I'm jealous of 1250kg driving

ATM

21,022 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th February
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ATM said:
ChrisW. said:
I believe that the Twingo 133 Cup came in at 980 kilos ... (no aircon, simple bench rear seat ... ??)
Dunno

I just asked Google

Still heavier than a Renault 5 GT Turbo at 850. Its an extra 130 kg.

No ABS
No air bags
No AC
No Traction Control
No Cat
No safety cell
No crumple zones
No crash protection

You get the idea

And made of Tin foil
Although I'd still like to point out I wouldn't own and drive a little old 'flimsy' hot hatch today because I value my health and safety more

ChrisW.

8,048 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th February
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Slippydiff said:
GT03 said:
Totally agree on weight and size - it's why the 987/997 is (IMO) the last generation that feels comfortable on the road.

I drove a mate's Alpine A110S back to back with my 987.2 BS on track a couple of weeks ago. You could immediately feel the light weight of the A110, but the 987 was up there for driving fun, better balanced in the wet, and just as fast (although not quite in a straight line).

They're both the same width - around 1800mm.
Great comparison thumbup

Richard B reckoned his weighed 1250kg with a lightweight aftermarket lithium battery (but his was a no A/C, no stereo, PCCB equipped example) :

https://911uk.com/porsche/clr-spyder.105762/page-2

Any idea what yours tips the scales at ?
I was surprised that my 981GT4 Clubsport with PCCB type discs and BBS F1R wheels weighed in at 1425 kilos ...



Slippydiff

16,054 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th February
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ChrisW. said:
I was surprised that my 981GT4 Clubsport with PCCB type discs and BBS F1R wheels weighed in at 1425 kilos ...
Is that a quoted figure you've seen Chris, or have you had the car on the scales and that was the indicated figure ?

ATM

21,022 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th February
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Slippydiff said:
ChrisW. said:
I was surprised that my 981GT4 Clubsport with PCCB type discs and BBS F1R wheels weighed in at 1425 kilos ...
Is that a quoted figure you've seen Chris, or have you had the car on the scales and that was the indicated figure ?
Don't forget to empty the cd player first

ChrisW.

8,048 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th February
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That was a reading off the builders merchants scales with 80% full fuel tank and no driver ...

Jones the cat

858 posts

16 months

Slippydiff

16,054 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th February
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ChrisW. said:
That was a reading off the builders merchants scales with 80% full fuel tank and no driver ...
Clubsport from memory Chris ? How much did the cage weigh ?

Your wheels would have saved what 5-6kg per corner tops ? and the ST discs wouldn't have been much, if any lighter than the OE PCCBs ?


ChrisW.

8,048 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February
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Yes Clubsport ... what would the rear cage weigh ? 25 Kg max ?? ST's same as PCCB's ish ... but dual climate ... bose ... leather dash ... a nice spec.

Mike S001

1 posts

2 months

Wednesday 25th February
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I secured the red one at Eporsche a couple of weeks ago at it's original list price of £38k and travelled over 3 hours to collect it last Wednesday. I was told it was a 'little minter' but unfortunately when I got there it had paint issues on the rear bumper, corrosion in the rear light clusters, wheels and calipers needed refurbing and the seats have been reupholstered with deeper seat cushions and generally weren't in great condition so I backed out. I It could be a nice example but it doesn't look like they have sorted any of this and have listed for £2k extra.

Kananga

1,154 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th February
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Mike S001 said:
I secured the red one at Eporsche a couple of weeks ago at it's original list price of £38k and travelled over 3 hours to collect it last Wednesday. I was told it was a 'little minter' but unfortunately when I got there it had paint issues on the rear bumper, corrosion in the rear light clusters, wheels and calipers needed refurbing and the seats have been reupholstered with deeper seat cushions and generally weren't in great condition so I backed out. I It could be a nice example but it doesn't look like they have sorted any of this and have listed for £2k extra.
Shame. Definition of “mint” varies a lot from one person to the next!

Rsx Boy

358 posts

163 months

Friday 27th February
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New R advert on Trader......

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602260...



Edited by Rsx Boy on Friday 27th February 10:35

Jones the cat

858 posts

16 months

Friday 27th February
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Rsx Boy said:
New R advert on Trader......

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602260...



Edited by Rsx Boy on Friday 27th February 10:35
That'll be gone by sunset.