Cayman R Chat

[MDT48]

Jim1556 said:

Hi Riyad, how do you manage with no aircon in the summer?

Same as I do every summer - really doesn't bother me

It was a scorcher on Sunday for Beaulieu and I was absolutely fine with the windows down a bit - I think I only ever switched on the AC in my 911 a handful of times in the three years I had it, haven't missed it once in the R.

But to be fair, mine isn't a daily, so I'm never really sitting stuck in traffic - that said, I was queueing for an hour to get into Beaulieu and it was just lovely with the windows down

[Jim1556]

I'll need it in mine, don't fancy tracking without aircon...

[MDT48]

Jim1556 said:

I'll need it in mine, don't fancy tracking without aircon...

Nah, you don't want to be using power on the AC pump when you're lapping; last thing you need :-)

Edited by MDT48 on Thursday 7th June 14:31

[Budflicker]

MDT48 said:

Edited by MDT48 on Thursday 7th June 14:31

Damn that looks good, that's the second amazing photo of your car in a couple of days....

[Jim1556]

MDT48 said:

Nah, you don't want to be using power on the AC pump when you're lapping; last thing you need :-)

Porn!

[s3 akr]

Nice track pics. Mine hits Donnington Park on Wednesday for the first time in my ownership - a bit nervous but it has to be done!!

[frayz]

No AC here either and again I couldn’t care less.
We live in England, not Arizona. Also part of what makes an R an R in my opinion.

[ajondyh]

A/C was a "must have" for me and I'm really glad I have it. I turned down one which didn't have it when I was looking 5 years ago. The other factor to consider is that A/C will help the car to sell better and help resale values. I did end up with a very well specced car in the end and just over 20k miles now and I'm 2nd owner. Always makes me smile on the rare occasions I get to drive it.

Carrara white
Manual 6 speed
Factory Black Painted Spyder Wheels
Climate control A/C
Carbon Buckets
PSE
Sport Chrono
Short shift
Cruise control
Rear wiper
Cup Holders
CD holders
Aux audio USB and Phone BT etc
Fitted Mats

[Jim1556]

ajondyh said:

A/C was a "must have" for me and I'm really glad I have it. I turned down one which didn't have it when I was looking 5 years ago. The other factor to consider is that A/C will help the car to sell better and help resale values. I did end up with a very well specced car in the end and just over 20k miles now and I'm 2nd owner. Always makes me smile on the rare occasions I get to drive it.

Carrara white
Manual 6 speed
Factory Black Painted Spyder Wheels
Climate control A/C
Carbon Buckets
PSE
Sport Chrono
Short shift
Cruise control
Rear wiper
Cup Holders
CD holders
Aux audio USB and Phone BT etc
Fitted Mats

Be honest, you're bored with it now. I'm sure I know someone who's after one...

[Jim1556]

MDT48 said:

Nah, you don't want to be using power on the AC pump when you're lapping; last thing you need :-)

To be fair, having just done DN19 in 25°C+, the aircon in my M3 was on max and I was still moist. Black car doesn't help, but aircon/climate control is a must for me...

[MDT48]

frayz said:

No AC here either and again I couldn’t care less.
We live in England, not Arizona. Also part of what makes an R an R in my opinion.

We have so much in common it seems :-)

Never spoken to a 964 RS owner at the track who complained about lack of AC, either...

[ajondyh]

Jim1556 said:

Be honest, you're bored with it now. I'm sure I know someone who's after one...

It never bores me

[MDT48]

ajondyh said:

A/C was a "must have" for me and I'm really glad I have it. I turned down one which didn't have it when I was looking 5 years ago. The other factor to consider is that A/C will help the car to sell better and help resale values.

Honestly I never, ever think about resale values when choosing and speccing a car. I spec my cars for me, not for what the next person might want if I choose to sell it

And with cars like these there will always be people like frayz and myself who are not just happy with a relatively pure spec, but would actively look for it.

[ajondyh]

MDT48 said:

We have so much in common it seems :-)

Never spoken to a 964 RS owner at the track who complained about lack of AC, either...

Crikey!! You're lucky to see a 964 RS on track now

[MDT48]

ajondyh said:

Crikey!! You're lucky to see a 964 RS on track now

This was last month

But yes, not as many as I used to see when they were changing hands for £22k instead of £180K

[ajondyh]

MDT48 said:

Honestly I never, ever think about resale values when choosing and speccing a car. I spec my cars for me, not for what the next person might want if I choose to sell it

And with cars like these there will always be people like frayz and myself who are not just happy with a relatively pure spec, but would actively look for it.

Well for me a car is *also* an asset and the less it depreciates (or more it appreciates) the better

[ajondyh]

MDT48 said:

This was last month

But yes, not as many as I used to see when they were changing hands for £22k instead of £180K

Yes most are tucked away these days

[frayz]

ajondyh said:

MDT48 said:

Honestly I never, ever think about resale values when choosing and speccing a car. I spec my cars for me, not for what the next person might want if I choose to sell it

And with cars like these there will always be people like frayz and myself who are not just happy with a relatively pure spec, but would actively look for it.

Well for me a car is *also* an asset and the less it depreciates (or more it appreciates) the better

Its an asset to most of us, but lack of AC wont change its depreciation rate. Some folk want luxuries, some dont.
Personally i see a Cayman R as a pure drivers car and thats why it doesnt phase me to be missing the AC. Mine has a radio but truth be told it wouldnt bother that much if it didnt, ive got an ipod if i need it.

Manual gearbox, proper wheels and seats, short shifter and alcantara trim will always be far higher on my list of must haves. Mine also doesnt have PSE but instead wears Fabspeed headers and Remus titanium pipes. Its undiluted all of the time, and to be honest, just the way i like it.
Only thing i wish my car had would be PCCB but instead its got Girodiscs and RS29s all round which do the business just fine.

Different strokes for different folks, but i think Riyad is right, i dont buy a car for the next guy.

Buy it and enjoy it. Time waits for no man and none of us know whats around the corner.


I wont be on my death bed thinking... Id wish id driven my Porsche less.

Edited by frayz on Friday 8th June 11:06

[ajondyh]

frayz said:

Its an asset to most of us, but lack of AC wont change its depreciation rate. Some folk want luxuries, some dont.
Personally i see a Cayman R as a pure drivers car and thats why it doesnt phase me to be missing the AC. Mine has a radio but truth be told it wouldnt bother that much if it didnt, ive got an ipod if i need it.

Manual gearbox, proper wheels and seats, short shifter and alcantara trim will always be far higher on my list of must haves. Mine also doesnt have PSE but instead wears Fabspeed heads and titanium pipes. Its undiluted all of the time, just the way i like it. Only thing i wish my car had would be PCCB but instead its got Girodiscs and RS29s all round which do the business just fine.

Different strokes for different folks, but i think Riyad is right, i dont buy a car for the next guy.
Buy it and enjoy it. Time waits for no man and none of us know whats around the corner.


I wont be on my death bed thinking... Id wish id driven my Porsche less.

Well 5 years ago when R's were more available I spent 6 months looking for the ideal spec with my list of 'must haves'. I am so glad I did as it is ideal spec for me and I wouldn't swap it for anything less.... As you say, "Different strokes....." and yes, I'll never think I wish I'd driven it less

[MDT48]

ajondyh said:

Well for me a car is *also* an asset and the less it depreciates (or more it appreciates) the better

I do feel sorry for all those 964 RS owners whose cars haven't appreciated due to lack of air conditioning

But as has been said, it all comes down to what you want from a car, but we shouldn't assume that what we want makes a car more valuable, because others might want something different.

The world would be a boring place if we all wanted the same thing