Cayman R Chat

Cayman R Chat

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Mogsmex

208 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th August
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frayz said:
Be great to get a few of us together.
Looking forward to meeting you guys smile
you enrolling Jolly ?

PaulD86

861 posts

71 months

Thursday 29th August
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Well last weekend my R became worthless biggrin



It ticked over the 30k mile mark. To mark the occasion I took it to the greatest section road in the country (Henry Catchpoles video on it in an Aston N430 is worth a watch you YouTube) - The A93 from Braemar to Bridge of Cally.



On the way I picked up one or two flies (it was spotless when it left home).



It was an epic drive and the type of drive that makes me remember why I love the car so much. I'm just wondering why I don't drive that road more often tbh!

bigmowley

562 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th August
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Stick on number plate thumbup
Top man

frayz

1,314 posts

104 months

Thursday 29th August
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PaulD86 said:
Well last weekend my R became worthless biggrin



It ticked over the 30k mile mark. To mark the occasion I took it to the greatest section road in the country (Henry Catchpoles video on it in an Aston N430 is worth a watch you YouTube) - The A93 from Braemar to Bridge of Cally.



On the way I picked up one or two flies (it was spotless when it left home).



It was an epic drive and the type of drive that makes me remember why I love the car so much. I'm just wondering why I don't drive that road more often tbh!
Looks fantastic Paul.

And I’m bloody jealous because I know that stretch of road so well.

  1. Bugslife biggrin

frayz

1,314 posts

104 months

Thursday 29th August
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Mogsmex said:
frayz said:
Be great to get a few of us together.
Looking forward to meeting you guys smile
you enrolling Jolly ?
You need to get him involved biggrin

Joehow

246 posts

60 months

Thursday 29th August
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Great day in the old snotter (31k) at Snett today. Without doubt now at the limit of the PSS and standard geo.

What a bloody brilliant car!!!

Edited by Joehow on Thursday 29th August 21:09

911jon

15 posts

76 months

Thursday 5th September
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Joehow; I couldn't agree more!

I've been driving the Cayman R as much as I can. Completely in love with it!

My initial conclusion is... leave well alone. There is nothing about it at the moment that I feel the need to change (though adding some PPF). The original owner (to whom I have spoken) specified a deliberately lightweight configuration; I am enjoying its purity.

Standard exhaust system: I can find no evidence that the sports version makes anything but more noise. Does anyone have a system weight or dyno comparison? *edit* - standard system weighs 33lbs (found a post from someone who had weighed it). Remus Ti was 22lbs. Not much saving!

The noise the standard system makes is delightful; it is civilised at lower speeds and howls deliciously when revved. Not inclined to spend money unless there is evidence that the standard system is throttling the car in some way.

Brakes (steel): I know these are widely held as the car's weak spot, but the power seems sufficient and I have had no fade issues in up to 20 miles of spirited driving. I am sure track time would be enlightening in this regard. Pedal feel seems fine; no trace of the rumoured sponginess (it has just been serviced).

Tyres: I will continue to learn the car's characteristics on the PZero N2 set supplied for now. They seem to grip well/progressively in the dry, but are not confidence inspiring in the wet. I am happy to drive around this until they are well worn. The PS4S beckons when that time comes - not worried about the N-rating.

I am having PPF (front end) fitted (today/Friday) to protect the paint. It is in very good condition with the currently low mileage, so worth protecting, in my view.

I can't keep my hands off it!


Edited by 911jon on Thursday 5th September 17:38

frayz

1,314 posts

104 months

Thursday 5th September
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Great to hear you're enjoying it so much Jon, great outlook, only upgrade if you feel you need to.

Joe, jealous of your track time mate, car looks fab as usual smile

Joehow

246 posts

60 months

Friday 6th September
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Spa in less than a month now!

frayz

1,314 posts

104 months

Friday 6th September
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Joehow said:


Spa in less than a month now!
Git! biggrin

911jon

15 posts

76 months

Friday 6th September
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PaulD86 said:
Well last weekend my R became worthless biggrin



It ticked over the 30k mile mark. To mark the occasion I took it to the greatest section road in the country (Henry Catchpoles video on it in an Aston N430 is worth a watch you YouTube) - The A93 from Braemar to Bridge of Cally.
All of 7.6K now... however, I have no a/c, so mine is also worthless biggrin

I would love to drive that section of road. Definitely on my list!

Brads67

1,752 posts

43 months

Friday 6th September
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I travel in a Cayman R a couple of times a week, and I'm sorry to say, I really don't like it. Would never buy one for sure.

The guy went from a Golf R and regretted it straight away. The porker is really unrefined and to me doesn't feel very well built.

Having to choose between conversation and listening to the radio started my dislike.

It's on Pilot sports and I feel a lack of grip, certainly compared with my old MX5 on semi race Yoko's

Not bad looking I suppose mind.

Porsche911R

17,324 posts

210 months

Friday 6th September
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Brads67 said:
I travel in a Cayman R a couple of times a week, and I'm sorry to say, I really don't like it. Would never buy one for sure.

The guy went from a Golf R and regretted it straight away. The porker is really unrefined and to me doesn't feel very well built.

Having to choose between conversation and listening to the radio started my dislike.

It's on Pilot sports and I feel a lack of grip, certainly compared with my old MX5 on semi race Yoko's

Not bad looking I suppose mind.
It's about driving enjoyment, not being a passenger and having a chat ! You listen to the Flat 6.... And it's not about 4WD and grip.

if he likes the Golf R then he don't like driving, it's that simple, the Golf R 's are very dull one trick ponies I bet he also had a DSG one and prob also bought a PDK R. If he hates it sell it !! I do wonder why people keep cars they don't like ! it will have held better value than his Golf R so he can get back into one and maybe put some ££ in his pocket now the Golf's have dropped like a bomb.

I also bet it's got 10 year old PS2 on it, as there is plenty enough grip from a Super sport or PS4S on these cars.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 6th September 12:00

Brads67

1,752 posts

43 months

Friday 6th September
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Porsche911R said:
It's about driving enjoyment, not being a passenger and having a chat ! You listen to the Flat 6.... And it's not about 4WD and grip.

if he likes the Golf R then he don't like driving, it's that simple, the Golf R 's are very dull one trick ponies I bet he also had a DSG one and prob also bought a PDK R. If he hates it sell it !! I do wonder why people keep cars they don't like ! it will have held better value than his Golf R so he can get back into one and maybe put some ££ in his pocket now the Golf's have dropped like a bomb.

I also bet it's got 10 year old PS2 on it, as there is plenty enough grip from a Super sport or PS4S on these cars.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 6th September 12:00
Ok so wrong on all counts, but keep your hair on. I was making MY observations, please try not to get too precious about your car.

In fact I'll edit more.
No not just passenger, and it certainly felt less balanced than the Boxster S I tested just before driving one. Less fun.

Tyres are brand new as it keeps breaking springs and destroying them

The engine note is simply a drone, you really have to cane it before it begins to have any sort of sporty note to it.

You assume he hates it, I simply said he regretted it.

You can remove the chip from your shoulder now and get back to smelling your Cayman seats.


Edited by Brads67 on Friday 6th September 13:30

PaulD86

861 posts

71 months

Friday 6th September
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Brads67 said:
I travel in a Cayman R a couple of times a week, and I'm sorry to say, I really don't like it. Would never buy one for sure.

The guy went from a Golf R and regretted it straight away. The porker is really unrefined and to me doesn't feel very well built.

Having to choose between conversation and listening to the radio started my dislike.

It's on Pilot sports and I feel a lack of grip, certainly compared with my old MX5 on semi race Yoko's

Not bad looking I suppose mind.
Brads67 said:
Ok so wrong on all counts, but keep your hair on. I was making MY observations, please try not to get too precious about your car.

In fact I'll edit more.
No not just passenger, and it certainly felt less balanced than the Boxster S I tested just before driving one. Less fun.

Tyres are brand new as it keeps breaking springs and destroying them

The engine note is simply a drone, you really have to cane it before it begins to have any sort of sporty note to it.

You assume he hates it, I simply said he regretted it.

You can remove the chip from your shoulder now and get back to smelling your Cayman seats.


Edited by Brads67 on Friday 6th September 13:30
With respect, this thread is where Cayman R owners and prospective owners/previous owners discuss their cars, modifications to them etc. I am sure I'm not alone in saying that we don't really care if you like the R or not. It's clearly not the car for you. Some of your remarks are a bit daft but then I'm sure you know better than, say, the testers at EVO magazine whose summary of the Cayman R was "total handling excellence".

Anyway, if you prefer an MX5 then good for you. We all have our preferences and that's great. As it happens I've driven a few MX5s, standard and otherwise and my personal opinion is that it is the most over-rated car on Pistonheads. Oddly I've never felt like popping up on one of the MX5 forums to say this as it would seem a totally bizarre and pointless thing to do....

PaulD86

861 posts

71 months

Friday 6th September
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911jon said:
All of 7.6K now... however, I have no a/c, so mine is also worthless biggrin

I would love to drive that section of road. Definitely on my list!
It's a nightmare having these worthless cars, isn't it? laugh

Well, if you ever venture up this way then let me know! I'm always up for a blast in the car. Same goes to any other R owner who finds themselves up this way thumbup

frayz

1,314 posts

104 months

Friday 6th September
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PaulD86 said:
Same goes to any other R owner who finds themselves up this way thumbup
Tease biggrin

Porsche911R

17,324 posts

210 months

Friday 6th September
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Brads67 said:
Ok so wrong on all counts, but keep your hair on. I was making MY observations, please try not to get too precious about your car.

In fact I'll edit more.
No not just passenger, and it certainly felt less balanced than the Boxster S I tested just before driving one. Less fun.

Tyres are brand new as it keeps breaking springs and destroying them

The engine note is simply a drone, you really have to cane it before it begins to have any sort of sporty note to it.

You assume he hates it, I simply said he regretted it.

You can remove the chip from your shoulder now and get back to smelling your Cayman seats.


Edited by Brads67 on Friday 6th September 13:30
not sure what wrong on all accounts ?

1: I don't own a Cayman R, not done for 18 months but have had 2 and done >30k miles in them, they are amazing drivers cars.

2: I bet he did not buy super sports or the like and bought 10 year old design PS2 's

3: why does he keep breaking springs, no one else does ?

4: It's a NA engine it designed to rev out not have tons of torque like a turbo car, that's the fun to get it up the revs.


no chip on my Shoulders, the Cayman R was voted best drivers car 2011, and it's a great car to drive.

I do drive and own a Golf but a proper 2WD manual one :-)

IF you like driving ask your mate for a drive, it may well convert you.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 6th September 15:05

PaulD86

861 posts

71 months

Friday 6th September
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frayz said:
PaulD86 said:
Same goes to any other R owner who finds themselves up this way thumbup
Tease biggrin
I'll even buy a round of drinks after biggrin

911jon

15 posts

76 months

Friday 6th September
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Brads67 said:
I travel in a Cayman R a couple of times a week, and I'm sorry to say, I really don't like it. Would never buy one for sure.

The guy went from a Golf R and regretted it straight away. The porker is really unrefined and to me doesn't feel very well built.

Having to choose between conversation and listening to the radio started my dislike.

It's on Pilot sports and I feel a lack of grip, certainly compared with my old MX5 on semi race Yoko's

Not bad looking I suppose mind.
Hi Brads67,

You are of course entitled to your opinions, though posting them in the Cayman R owners thread is somewhat deliberately provocative to say the least! It would seem that you are perhaps not actually 'sorry to say'. However, let me address your points in turn.

For me, the 250Kg heavier Golf R is a numb, electronically controlled experience. Competent, yes; involving, no. Of course, many drivers will prefer that, it is far more accessible for most. The more typical Cayman R buyer revels in the lack of refinement and the additional driver concentration and input required.

As for build quality, I have some considerable experience with many hundreds of cars (ex vehicle development industry) and am of the opinion that it is extremely well made. That does not mean that it is swathed in active noise cancelling systems, soft-touch plastics and electric toys, simply that the precision of the driver controls is excellent and the tolerances and compliance seem tight.

It's not a car for conversation or entertainment quality on a commute.... this is deliberate (sound damping reduced for lightness). You may be rather missing the point of such a vehicle.

I am a little bemused by the assertion that it lacks grip and find myself wondering what treatment of the car might induce such a sensation. There are few cars at any price with a lower C of G, it is unusually light and has substantial tyres/road contact area. I would suggest that the owner check the age and condition of the tyres.

One might almost suggest in this context that the Cayman R is a pearl of a car....