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JZM are decent guys,, they don’t deal in poor cars. I know they’ve declined to sell cars that aren’t up to standard or have any questionable history.
I’ve both bought and sold with them and from personal experience would highly recommend.
They’ll sort any problems quickly should they arise with a car.
Photos are shockingly edited though
I’ve both bought and sold with them and from personal experience would highly recommend.
They’ll sort any problems quickly should they arise with a car.
Photos are shockingly edited though
It looks like we have our best recent indication of the market for these cars - £53k for a nicely spec'd and mint (if massively over saturated ) example. The car certainly presents very well. Doesn't seem totally ridiculous to me in a market where a new eletric Corsa is £1,500 shy of £40k, but at the same time it makes the viper car look a hard sell - not as good spec and near double the miles for an extra £5k. So what's the premium for a car that's a one off colour (but only in that specific trim)?
) example. The car certainly presents very well. Doesn't seem totally ridiculous to me in a market where a new eletric Corsa is £1,500 shy of £40k, but at the same time it makes the viper car look a hard sell - not as good spec and near double the miles for an extra £5k. So what's the premium for a car that's a one off colour (but only in that specific trim)? PaulD86 said:
It looks like we have our best recent indication of the market for these cars - £53k for a nicely spec'd and mint (if massively over saturated ) example. The car certainly presents very well. Doesn't seem totally ridiculous to me in a market where a new eletric Corsa is £1,500 shy of £40k, but at the same time it makes the viper car look a hard sell - not as good spec and near double the miles for an extra £5k. So what's the premium for a car that's a one off colour (but only in that specific trim)?
What about the JZM car is a better spec than the Viper car? Unless cup holders, and cruise control on a Cayman R are super desirable? Have you had a fallout with the owner of the Viper car as you seem very negative about it in all your posts? ) example. The car certainly presents very well. Doesn't seem totally ridiculous to me in a market where a new eletric Corsa is £1,500 shy of £40k, but at the same time it makes the viper car look a hard sell - not as good spec and near double the miles for an extra £5k. So what's the premium for a car that's a one off colour (but only in that specific trim)? Edited by Porsche-worm on Thursday 20th July 10:02
Porsche-worm said:
PaulD86 said:
It looks like we have our best recent indication of the market for these cars - £53k for a nicely spec'd and mint (if massively over saturated ) example. The car certainly presents very well. Doesn't seem totally ridiculous to me in a market where a new eletric Corsa is £1,500 shy of £40k, but at the same time it makes the viper car look a hard sell - not as good spec and near double the miles for an extra £5k. So what's the premium for a car that's a one off colour (but only in that specific trim)?
What about the JZM car is a better spec than the Viper car? Unless cup holders, and cruise control on a Cayman R are super desirable? Have you had a fallout with the owner of the Viper car as you seem very negative about it in all your posts? ) example. The car certainly presents very well. Doesn't seem totally ridiculous to me in a market where a new eletric Corsa is £1,500 shy of £40k, but at the same time it makes the viper car look a hard sell - not as good spec and near double the miles for an extra £5k. So what's the premium for a car that's a one off colour (but only in that specific trim)? Edited by Porsche-worm on Thursday 20th July 10:02
No, I actually think it is a shame he was banned on here as I liked his posts. I also follow him on Instagram and have chatted to him on there. Seems a sound guy and I was disappointed I couldn't make the 10 years meet last year and meet him and others from here. However, none of that alters my view that the price he is asking is too high. I am sure the viper is a lovely car, but I don't get the hype over a one off (for an R) colour and don't think it justifies a significantly higher price for a lower spec, higher miles car. Just my view and no issue if people disagree. That said, I always say everything has the same value - what someone is prepared to pay for it. And so far, despite saying he would sell it at £60k for a long time, it hasn't sold. I wish him the best with the sale and hope that clarifies.
After not using the R much, going to be putting it up for sale in the next few weeks.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.
I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
tighnamara said:
After not using the R much, going to be putting it up for sale in the next few weeks.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.
I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
Personally I would start with RPM Technik, https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sell-my-porsche/ . They are nice genuine people there who offer a great service.Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
But I am sure that the likes of 911 Virgin, Ashgood, Paragon, or JZM would be decent too.
tighnamara said:
After not using the R much, going to be putting it up for sale in the next few weeks.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.
I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
Why not try selling it privately?Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
If it’s good spec. mileage etc shouldn’t have any trouble shifting if price is right and better off financially than any other route.
tighnamara said:
After not using the R much, going to be putting it up for sale in the next few weeks.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.
I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
I have also read some horror stories where the garage takes car SOR and then sell it and keep the money. I believe the risk is the buyer pays the garage and not you. Obviously a reputable place would then pay you but if they do not you can lose the money. Especially if the garage or dealer goes bankrupt or some suspicious financial wranglings. I am not suggesting reputable dealers would do this but it is a risk. Obviously if you sell yourself and buyer pays you directly there is less risk in my opinion. Just know that SOR is not risk free and obviously the more expensive the car then the more risk involved.Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
tighnamara said:
After not using the R much, going to be putting it up for sale in the next few weeks.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.
I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
If the car is immaculate reasonable mileage up to date with services tyres ect JZM give a decent fair price to buy outright rather than faffing about with SOR .Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
I sold my GT3 and R to them both immaculate I might add a decent fair price that suited both parties great fast service.
Once you understand they are in business and obviously in it for a profit they have to put a warranty on the car and any trappings that go alone with selling a car.
I could have done SOR on both cars but at the end of the day wasn't much in either car profit wise just over a couple of grand on both after selling fees.
Might be worth a trip down there you may be surprised for me it's was fast instant safe great service.
Good luck with your sale either way.
Thanks all, may give some of the recommended garages a call and also look at preparing an advert (never sold this value of car before so a bit nervous )
Car is in immaculate condition, low mileage and has all the "bits", just selling as don't use it and looking at something else that I will use more for long "leisure" trips.
Never thought I would say this but actually looking for something automatic and not manual
Thanks again.
)Car is in immaculate condition, low mileage and has all the "bits", just selling as don't use it and looking at something else that I will use more for long "leisure" trips.
Never thought I would say this but actually looking for something automatic and not manual
Thanks again.
tighnamara said:
Thanks all, may give some of the recommended garages a call and also look at preparing an advert (never sold this value of car before so a bit nervous )
Car is in immaculate condition, low mileage and has all the "bits", just selling as don't use it and looking at something else that I will use more for long "leisure" trips.
Never thought I would say this but actually looking for something automatic and not manual
Thanks again.
Generally selling a car like this is easier than a run of the mill car. The buyers who will be interested will be serious car nuts and enthusiasts and therefore - you would hope - treat you with more respect as a fellow enthusiast in what is a small percentage of the general public.)Car is in immaculate condition, low mileage and has all the "bits", just selling as don't use it and looking at something else that I will use more for long "leisure" trips.
Never thought I would say this but actually looking for something automatic and not manual
Thanks again.
ATM said:
tighnamara said:
Thanks all, may give some of the recommended garages a call and also look at preparing an advert (never sold this value of car before so a bit nervous )
Car is in immaculate condition, low mileage and has all the "bits", just selling as don't use it and looking at something else that I will use more for long "leisure" trips.
Never thought I would say this but actually looking for something automatic and not manual
Thanks again.
Generally selling a car like this is easier than a run of the mill car. The buyers who will be interested will be serious car nuts and enthusiasts and therefore - you would hope - treat you with more respect as a fellow enthusiast in what is a small percentage of the general public.)Car is in immaculate condition, low mileage and has all the "bits", just selling as don't use it and looking at something else that I will use more for long "leisure" trips.
Never thought I would say this but actually looking for something automatic and not manual
Thanks again.
Selling my 718 gt4 was a nightmare, far harder to shift than all the other Porsches we have sold.
The amount of time waster was unbelievable and nearly every independent tried to tell me why they were the best person to SOR it for me at a price which got me less than I traded it to a opc for!
One opc wanted 10k SOR fees.
Never again, spoilt the whole process for me.
My advice is if you have a nice car, with porsche history and warranty go out to a number of different porsche centres owned by different groups and get some trade bids to buy outright.
The amount of time waster was unbelievable and nearly every independent tried to tell me why they were the best person to SOR it for me at a price which got me less than I traded it to a opc for!
One opc wanted 10k SOR fees.
Never again, spoilt the whole process for me.
My advice is if you have a nice car, with porsche history and warranty go out to a number of different porsche centres owned by different groups and get some trade bids to buy outright.
tighnamara said:
After not using the R much, going to be putting it up for sale in the next few weeks.
Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.
I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
From memory jzm were good on their SOR fee, but wanted to retail it lower than others. Another summer and only been out once, so decision made to move on (if it sells
) otherwise will be garaged for next summer.I know these should be used but as 3rd car its just not out much................. as it should be.
Was thinking of a SOR but not sure after reading some of the stories, any recommended garages if I go down the SOR route.
Just be careful.
If it’s a nice one, why not do an advert on here first and see if you get any takers.
Just be prepared to answer questions to time waster and have random garages calling you asking to SOR it.
Be careful if you SOR it, garage goes pop you could end up loosing the lot and there’s no guarantee how long until you get paid.
SOR a rare motor bike recently with a large dealership, they sold it fast and got us very good money for it, more than I previously advertised it privately!
But it took some time to get paid by their accounts.
Guys on the ground were excellent mind.
jimmy p said:
I found it was the opposite, I've sold 2 987.2 Boxster Spyders and as they are niche, buyers are very picky about spec, found both slow to move on. 1 with air con and 1 without. Both had manual box, buckets, spyder alloys, non air con also had pse. Sold them both private in the end but found traders wanted them giving to them!!
Sounds like dealers were trying to chip chip chip you down to increase their margin. Yes there will be spec nerds but a car like this will take some time to shift so just be patient before adjusting price or your planned sale.GT03 said:
Just wanted to share a brake set up that worked really well for me on track this week. Edited to add part numbers and prices:
• Endless ME20 pads (EIP175 CC40 front, EIP211 CC40 rear - £290 plus taxes from RHD Japan)
• Castrol SRF fluid (1L, £55 from Amazon)
• GT3 master cylinder (TRW PMN166 - £75 from WS Autoteile)
• GT3 front brake ducts - (99734148392 left / 99734148492 right - £6 from local OPC)
Everything else standard. Completely solid pedal all evening running 56 second laps at Brands Hatch Indy.
It's worth noting that the brakes need to be bled properly after install. I bled them myself first, then subsequently got 2 different garages to bleed them as they weren't quite right. GT One in Chertsey did a great job in the end. Ask your garage to flush using standard fluid first, including cycling the ABS pumps, then replace with SRF.
Enjoying the new set up here
This is interesting to read - I popped to Snett last night and boiled the fluid on my fourth session. Brand new Motul 660 in there, and the pedal went to the floor, luckily on my cooldown lap.• Endless ME20 pads (EIP175 CC40 front, EIP211 CC40 rear - £290 plus taxes from RHD Japan)
• Castrol SRF fluid (1L, £55 from Amazon)
• GT3 master cylinder (TRW PMN166 - £75 from WS Autoteile)
• GT3 front brake ducts - (99734148392 left / 99734148492 right - £6 from local OPC)
Everything else standard. Completely solid pedal all evening running 56 second laps at Brands Hatch Indy.
It's worth noting that the brakes need to be bled properly after install. I bled them myself first, then subsequently got 2 different garages to bleed them as they weren't quite right. GT One in Chertsey did a great job in the end. Ask your garage to flush using standard fluid first, including cycling the ABS pumps, then replace with SRF.
Enjoying the new set up here
Edited by GT03 on Saturday 22 July 18:18
Is the GT3 Master Cylinder going to help with cooling? I can't imagine it'd do much, whereas SRF Fluid would help?
My car is a PDK with sport chrono which I was driving in Sport Plus - I measured the temps on the discs and the rears were just over 300C when I did so, whereas the fronts were 240ish. I assume that's a function of the PSM? I had the traction control switch still 'on' - would turning that off help?
That's the second time I've boiled the fluid in my R now, and I'm losing a bit of confidence in it tbh. Any advice gratefully received.
Actus Reus said:
This is interesting to read - I popped to Snett last night and boiled the fluid on my fourth session. Brand new Motul 660 in there, and the pedal went to the floor, luckily on my cooldown lap.
Is the GT3 Master Cylinder going to help with cooling? I can't imagine it'd do much, whereas SRF Fluid would help?
My car is a PDK with sport chrono which I was driving in Sport Plus - I measured the temps on the discs and the rears were just over 300C when I did so, whereas the fronts were 240ish. I assume that's a function of the PSM? I had the traction control switch still 'on' - would turning that off help?
That's the second time I've boiled the fluid in my R now, and I'm losing a bit of confidence in it tbh. Any advice gratefully received.
The GT3 M/C will only firm up the pedal and won't help with the boiling. The GT3 brake ducts will help a bit, as will the SRF, as will turning off the PSM. Don't worry about the latter, the R is well behaved on a dry track without the PSM on. Just leave it on if it's damp/wet to help you out (we're going slower in the damp/wet so fluid boiling won't be an issue). The thing that will really help with keeping the fluid temperature down is to spend less time on the brakes. Most of us brake too hard for too long. It's better to brake hard in the initial phase for a short time and start bleeding off the brakes sooner. Try this at first by braking a bit earlier than your normally do which will build up your confidence in using the brakes less,Is the GT3 Master Cylinder going to help with cooling? I can't imagine it'd do much, whereas SRF Fluid would help?
My car is a PDK with sport chrono which I was driving in Sport Plus - I measured the temps on the discs and the rears were just over 300C when I did so, whereas the fronts were 240ish. I assume that's a function of the PSM? I had the traction control switch still 'on' - would turning that off help?
That's the second time I've boiled the fluid in my R now, and I'm losing a bit of confidence in it tbh. Any advice gratefully received.
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