The GT4 Tyre Thread

The GT4 Tyre Thread

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n17ves

591 posts

178 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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I'm on the my second set of Dunlop which I rate them quite well for road/track, seem to wear extremely consistently on my car. The only major downside I've found is they are more expensive that Cup2's.

I do however now have a set of Trofeo R for track work...looking forward to seeing how they compare, just need to source another set of wheels to save the hassle of changing tyres.

Geneve

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3,859 posts

219 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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nudgerwilliams said:
Looks like there is an N-rated PZero in the right sizes for a more road tyre.
Not keen on Pirellis - what are the other N-spec tyres in similar sizes? Michelin Super Sports?

nudgerwilliams said:
Have just replaced the front Cup2s on my car after three track days and 6 laps of the Ring. As others have said, wear pattern is a bit odd with the outside shoulder of the left front worn and the tread block inside the outer grove chamfered down below the wear bars. Rigth front tyre would probably do another day.
Rears more evenly worn and still with about 4.5mm tread left. I've put more Cup2s on, but price is a bit alarming!
That's my experience with the Dunlops - light/even wear on the rears, but more rapid, and slightly unusual, wear on the fronts.

nudgerwilliams

247 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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On the BlackCircles website, the only N-rated tyres they have in the right size are the Cup2, the Dunlop SportMaxx and the PZero.

Lots of choice in the right size inluding Pilot SuperSports. The budget own-brand choice is a mere £64 each on the front - presumably those would be good for practicing skids!

Slippydiff

14,828 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Porsche911R said:
You gone back into mad stalker mode ? Wtf !
Don't flatter yourself David, I was never in "mad stalker mode", on the contrary, the fact of the matter was you couldn't deal with being quoted and/or called out by numerous contributors on here. The sooner you realise this is a public forum with all that entails, the better, ergo if you don't want me to read and respond to your posts, don't post on here. Simple. ;-)

Back on topic. I recalled you raved about the Dunlops (inbetween bemoaning Porsche and their great N rated "rip off" and getting your facts about the PS2's wrong...) so I thought I'd check back to see if the only thing consistent about the stuff you post on here was it's inconsistency....

Porsche911R said:
I was about the 1st person to try these, they won a few tests, and I like to try the best products, this is a 2012 thread
I hated the tyres and told people why and I thrown them away not even half worn. ,
Just for the record, it's threw ;-) But good for you for testing them for everyone else and deciding they're not worthy, a bit like snow foam and pretty much every iteration of the GT3 Porsche has ever built (Gen 2 997 GT3 apart obviously) This forum is SO lucky to have someone as unbiased as yourself who's happy to vet products and cars on our behalf, I really don't know what we'd do without you hehe




Edited by Slippydiff on Thursday 1st September 13:58

Beedub

1,958 posts

226 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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isaldiri said:
Front 45N/mm
Rear 80N/mm

If i remember correctly....
surely these figures are wrong.......

isaldiri

18,569 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Beedub said:
surely these figures are wrong.......
As far as I can remember they are the correct numbers as per some launch reviews. Front has the same rate as the 991 gt3 but less rear spring rate. I'd google to be sure if I wasn't on the mobile but think they are right... wink. Why would you think the numbers have to be wrong out of interest?

Geneve

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3,859 posts

219 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Dunlop SMRs now replaced with Michelin PSC2s(at 2k mls rolleyes)

First subjective impressions are of a better road and track tyre, and hopefully longer life. Did notice a bit more road noise on some m/way surfaces.

Still trying to work out which set of standard N-spec road tyres to put on my second set of wheels. Would prefer Goodyear Eagle F1 AS2s, but can't find anyone who can clarify if the 265/35s will fit on the 11" rears. They certainly fit on the Spyder's 10.5" rears?

Pope

2,638 posts

247 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Approved sizes for Cayman GT4:

Summer

FA: 245/35 ZR 20 (91Y)
RA: 295/30 ZR 20 (101Y) XL

FA: 8.5 J x 20 H2, RO 61
RA: 11 J x 20 H2, RO 50

Winter

FA: 235/35 R 20 92V M+S
RA: 275/30 R 20 97V M+S

FA: 8.5J x 20 H2, RO 57
RA: 10 J x 20 H2, RO 50


FA: 245/35 R 20 91V M+S
RA: 295/30 R 20 97V M+S

FA: 8.5J x 20 H2, RO 61
RA: 11 J x 20 H2, RO 50


I would think the 265's would lend it an air of the VW stretch and poke trend...



Geneve

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3,859 posts

219 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Pope said:
I would think the 265's would lend it an air of the VW stretch and poke trend...
Thanks Jon

What did you mean by that? Fitting slightly 'over' or 'under' sized tyres is not unusual, there's usually a degree of flexibility. Just be nice to have an expert opinion on the subject.

Pirelli do the exact sizes, but really not keen on them, and they are noisy. Would much prefer the GYs.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Geneve said:
Thanks Jon

What did you mean by that? Fitting slightly 'over' or 'under' sized tyres is not unusual, there's usually a degree of flexibility. Just be nice to have an expert opinion on the subject.

Pirelli do the exact sizes, but really not keen on them, and they are noisy. Would much prefer the GYs.
265 is quite a bit smaller than the 295 stock size!

Sandy59

2,706 posts

211 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Ok, slight exaggeration maybe :


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Geneve said:
One track day at Silverstone GP and the fronts are pretty much gone
IMO that's the inevitable consequence of pushing round a circuit in a heavy road car. I'm a big fan of Michelin but the prospect of destroying an expensive set of tyres in one trackday wouldn't fill me with any joy at all.

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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The latest missive from Evo on tyres tested is interesting. http://www.evo.co.uk/features/18309/the-best-tyres... Different sizes and car, but does give some indication of the priorities of the various manufacturers - and shows (if you didn't know already) that there are tradeoffs between dry and wet road grip, braking and sideways adhesion, ride and noise - and you can't have everything.

ChrisW.

6,299 posts

255 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I agree, the Continentals looked good in 19" ...

PSS's good in the dry ... !

I use them as wets over PSC2's ... go figure smile


Geneve

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3,859 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th October 2016
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OK, now sorted. Two sets of OE wheels and two sets of tyres.

The disappointing, short lived, Dunlops now replaced with Michelin MPCS2s for road/track and, aside from a tad more road noise, a better tyre IMO and likely to be much more durable.

Second set (year round road use), Goodyear Eagle F1 AS2s, fitted following liaison with Goodyear Technical - 235/35R20 N0 and 275/35R20 M2.

Ran them 'back to back' and very pleased. GYs quieter by several dB, especially on UK m/ways, and a noticeably more compliant feel, rounding out sharp bumps. Entirely subjective, but very sweet road handling, wet or dry. And good value - £800 all inc at Protyre.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th October 2016
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Anoer owned of Dunlops disappointed, keeps happening :-)

TDT

4,934 posts

119 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Can we run N1?

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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TDT said:
Can we run N1?
you can run any tyre you wish

N spec means nothing and has not been tested on any older car.

gavin wot

31 posts

123 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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hi All,
just about to buy a full set of front and rear tyres for my 981 GT4.

On Black Circles I'm being presented with MPSC2 N1 front and rear-is this correct?

Thanks in advance,

Gavin

TDT

4,934 posts

119 months

Monday 15th November 2021
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gavin wot said:
hi All,
just about to buy a full set of front and rear tyres for my 981 GT4.

On Black Circles I'm being presented with MPSC2 N1 front and rear-is this correct?

Thanks in advance,

Gavin
Yep correct.