Cayman GTS - many many owners....

Cayman GTS - many many owners....

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W12GT

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3,524 posts

221 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Has anyone noticed that 981 Cayman GTS's seem to have been through a lot of owners? Considering the cars I perused on the Porsche website are 1-2years old I was surprised that there are a lot with 3-4 owners.

Any reason for this? I wouldn't have thought they were the sought of car to have the kerb appeal to draw in short term owners like say a super car would (the must own at some point category).

I think they look great but I haven't tried one yet. Are they noticibly better that an S?

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Apart from differences of interior trim, and a minor power hike (which you will hardly notice) a slightly different exhaust note they are NO different from an S with the same options. If you want the options that the GTS comes with it may be the better choice. If not, an S will be cheaper and may suit you better.

Edited by bcr5784 on Saturday 29th April 12:33

ellroy

7,029 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Try an S and GTS back to back, you'll feel the sum of the parts is greater.

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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I'd certainly recommend doing a back to back, but you may have difficulty finding an S with the same options.

Many certainly like the GTS interior.

That said I had the choice and went for an S because I actually didn't want or wasn't fussed about almost all the GTS extras. The only GTS extra I am keen on is PASM. But I don't like 20 inch wheels (inferior ride with no handling benefit) reduced ground clearance or PSE (noisier even when off).

Others will certainly take a different view - but make up your own mind.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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On a GTS the PASM is tuned differently to an S. Ride quality is sublime on 20inch wheels, truly amazing.

The PSE is physically different to the S and tuned for more burbles and crackles to go with the extra 15bhp.

The GTS interior is a very special place to be and it was not available on an S.

To some all that means nothing. To others it means everything.

Fizzbomb

484 posts

107 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Twinfan said:
On a GTS the PASM is tuned differently to an S. Ride quality is sublime on 20inch wheels, truly amazing.

The PSE is physically different to the S and tuned for more burbles and crackles to go with the extra 15bhp.

The GTS interior is a very special place to be and it was not available on an S.

To some all that means nothing. To others it means everything.
Well said!

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Twinfan said:
On a GTS the PASM is tuned differently to an S. Ride quality is sublime on 20inch wheels, truly amazing.

The PSE is physically different to the S and tuned for more burbles and crackles to go with the extra 15bhp.

The GTS interior is a very special place to be and it was not available on an S.

To some all that means nothing. To others it means everything.
Not sure why you think GTS Pasm is different from S Pasm - I'm pretty sure it isn't. And the ride is even better on 19s. Pasm is a must for me in any case.

Pse divides opinion. It is too boy racer for me-and pouring neat petrol down the exhaust to mimic carburation maladies of the past offends my engineering sensibilities.

But trying as many variants as possible is the way to go.



Edited by bcr5784 on Sunday 30th April 08:16

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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I read somewhere that the PASM was re-tuned for the GTS. Just because it had the same name as that on the base/S it doesn't mean it's exactly the same system smile

You may feel that the PSE is rubbish but it's a key part of the GTS sound character.

The GTS also has the sound symposer that feeds intake noise into the cabin, which is unique to the model.

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Twinfan said:
I read somewhere that the PASM was re-tuned for the GTS. Just because it had the same name as that on the base/S it doesn't mean it's exactly the same system smile

You may feel that the PSE is rubbish but it's a key part of the GTS sound character.

The GTS also has the sound symposer that feeds intake noise into the cabin, which is unique to the model.
Pretty sure you are wrong on Pasm. This has been discussed extensively and no one produced anything to suggest it is the case.

Re Pse that's why I prefer the S.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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bcr5784 said:
Pretty sure you are wrong on Pasm. This has been discussed extensively and no one produced anything to suggest it is the case.
Both articles here mention retuned PASM:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/cayma...

http://www.themotorhood.com/themotorhood/2015/8/21...

JasonSteel

566 posts

96 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Twinfan said:
On a GTS the PASM is tuned differently to an S. Ride quality is sublime on 20inch wheels, truly amazing.

The PSE is physically different to the S and tuned for more burbles and crackles to go with the extra 15bhp.

The GTS interior is a very special place to be and it was not available on an S.

To some all that means nothing. To others it means everything.
Twinfan said:
The GTS also has the sound symposer that feeds intake noise into the cabin, which is unique to the model.
doesn't the GTS also have a different front bumper and rear diffuser?

re the GTS PSE, i like Sports Plus mode with PSE off. that way it's quiet enough around town but when the engine opens up you get an incredible rush of aural delight.

big plus 1 on the interior. i have the buckets with alcantara interior and it makes me smile every time i open the door to get in.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Twinfan said:
On a GTS the PASM is tuned differently to an S. Ride quality is sublime on 20inch wheels, truly amazing.

The PSE is physically different to the S and tuned for more burbles and crackles to go with the extra 15bhp.

The GTS interior is a very special place to be and it was not available on an S.

To some all that means nothing. To others it means everything.
This.

I'd also encourage trying for yourself if you can find a couple of cars available for sale. You may also want to think about what you want to pay as well, since the GTS is notably more expensive to buy than a spec'd up S.

The exterior styling is also nicer on the GTS, to my eye. Especially the front bumper.

I made my choice.

Krobar

283 posts

107 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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PhantomPH said:
This.

I'd also encourage trying for yourself if you can find a couple of cars available for sale. You may also want to think about what you want to pay as well, since the GTS is notably more expensive to buy than a spec'd up S.

The exterior styling is also nicer on the GTS, to my eye. Especially the front bumper.

I made my choice.
I think the styling was available as option pack on standard models. Was called sports design pack or something like that.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Krobar said:
I think the styling was available as option pack on standard models. Was called sports design pack or something like that.
Indeed it was. Standard on the GTS, as mentioned by JasonSteel smile

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Krobar said:
I think the styling was available as option pack on standard models. Was called sports design pack or something like that.
Indeed it was, but it was expensive, so probably rare. If the bodywork is important to you I suspect you'd be better off with a GTS.

JayK12

2,324 posts

202 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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GTS is fekkin awesome, been in Wales for 3 days with friend, Mclarens, Astons, GT3, GT3 RSs, and the GTS was awesome, so much fun and amazingly capable. Looses out on power to some but not massively. It's joy to drive a brilliant package!! I'd like the Boxster Spyder steering rack though!

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Twinfan said:
Krobar said:
I think the styling was available as option pack on standard models. Was called sports design pack or something like that.
Indeed it was. Standard on the GTS, as mentioned by JasonSteel smile
You sure? Everything I have every read (including the two reviews above) mention the front bumper and rear spoiler being "special" for the GTS.

That being said, the OP asked about owners. I can't speak for any other car, but I'm only the second owner of my car, although it had only done 2.5k miles per year (and I've done that since January! smile )

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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PhantomPH said:
You sure? Everything I have every read (including the two reviews above) mention the front bumper and rear spoiler being "special" for the GTS.

That being said, the OP asked about owners. I can't speak for any other car, but I'm only the second owner of my car, although it had only done 2.5k miles per year (and I've done that since January! smile )
100% sure about GTS plastic. Was unique to the GTS when the GTS came out - later was option on Standard car. But probably academic since probably very rare.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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bcr5784 said:
100% sure about GTS plastic. Was unique to the GTS when the GTS came out - later was option on Standard car. But probably academic since probably very rare.
Yep, sport styling came after the GTS was launched. I've not seen a non-GTS with it.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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bcr5784 said:
If the bodywork is important to you I suspect you'd be better off with a GTS.
Or the alcantara, or the extra power, or the tweaked PASM, or the crackling PSE...

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