The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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rkwm1

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555 posts

38 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Pics from facebook.

So is this it then, the 718GT4?

GT4P

3,647 posts

121 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Interesting looks like the finished article,looks to have same rear end of the 718 spyder previously spotted so maybe same engine?

Twinfan

3,111 posts

40 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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It looks like it has the same front end as a GTS, plus the brakes aren't big enough. To my eyes, that's a GTS with a spoiler....

WG

617 posts

62 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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I agree with GT$ - those exhausts are definitely same as recent Spyder shots

GT4P

3,647 posts

121 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Not sure the brakes are Gts size front look gt4 size , also has Gt4 intake scoops although slightly different design. Looks to me as if it will share engine with 718 Spyder what ever that maybe
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Phooey

9,135 posts

105 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Bit bigger pics..








Twinfan

3,111 posts

40 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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If that's it, I'd say it shows serious cost cutting as I'm sure they are GTS brakes (certainly the rear, it looks small although the front may be a 911 6-pot?) and that's definitely the GTS front bumper. Looks like it might be a manual too?

The only bespoke bodywork is the rear spoiler and diffuser, the interior will likely be the same as the GTS (as on the 981) bar the LWB option.

So, what engine is in it?

Edited by Twinfan on Sunday 5th November 10:46

Romo

76 posts

52 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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The front has an open grille, no protection as you can clearly see the radiator on the right. Al GT series have closed grilles. So IMHO is this is a GTS with some goodies.

Also the front fenders have no "black line" (rubber?) that follows to the the front bumper (like all GT series have)


FWIW that is.

Edited by Romo on Sunday 5th November 11:17

cmoose

43,068 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Fundamentally inconclusive, but the brakes both front and rear look bigger than standard S/GTS brake to me:



People rather jumping to conclusions about cost cutting. Who knows what this is or whether it's feature complete if it is a GT4 mule. It does seem to have the standard Sport Design front bumper, but what with the wing, the rear bumper and the wheels, it's a bit of a mishmash. We'll see.

Cheib

15,410 posts

111 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Could be a GT4 test car with a GTS front end to confuse people like us....

cmoose

43,068 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Cheib said:
Could be a GT4 test car with a GTS front end to confuse people like us....
Possibly, but seems unlikely. Without the proper front end, you haven't got an aero package to evaluate. So if trying to divert / confuse, why fit the rear wing?

Who knows. I still lean more towards there will be a new GT4 than there won't be. Fingers crossed.

Twinfan

3,111 posts

40 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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cmoose said:
People rather jumping to conclusions about cost cutting.
Indeed, but there's not a lot else to talk about!

cmoose

43,068 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Twinfan said:
Indeed, but there's not a lot else to talk about!
I would speculate. I just wouldn't necessarily conclude!

The cost cutting idea is quite a leap. The GTx cars aren't about margins, in any case.

Fokker

3,209 posts

158 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Really looks like a mish mash to me. The exhaust are definitely wider apart and I have been told the next gt4 wil come with an enlarged rear diffuser which looks the case here. The spacing does make you think 3litre Turbo sport exhaust from 991 but N/A can surely be the only choice as it's a GT car.

The wing end plates look matt to me which could follow the black matt black detail on the 991.2 GT3. Gt4 wheels which would suggest is a GT4 mule, part of the callipers couid be hiding behind the black wheel spoke? Side scoops seem standard 718 affair of which I'm not a fan so I hope they do something there. Front bumper definitely looks GTS and it does look to be manual.

I really don't like the raised Porsche logo part of the rear bumper. Looks messy compared to the old one.

Edited to say it also looks to perhaps have folding buckets?



Edited by Fokker on Sunday 5th November 14:00

Twinfan

3,111 posts

40 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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cmoose said:
I would speculate. I just wouldn't necessarily conclude!

The cost cutting idea is quite a leap. The GTx cars aren't about margins, in any case.
True. I meant in comparison to the 981 GT4 which at least had bespoke aero, side scoops etc.

Here's a thought - maybe it won't have a GT4 badge, it might be a 718 R given the closer similarity to the non-GT cars?

cmoose

43,068 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Yep. Doing a 718 special and not calling it GT4 would be a way of sidestepping the nasp engine issue.

But I don't think one can conclude anything about what a final GT4 might have by way of sidescoops and the rest from a picture of a car that may or may not be a 718 GT4 mule and may or may not be feature complete.

When people start extrapolating from the paint finish (which itself isn't exactly unambiguous) on the wing end plates of a completely unidentified development car and not a finished retail car, it does get a bit silly!

Twinfan

3,111 posts

40 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Ha ha, indeed it does!

It does look well finished though...

BubblesNW

1,486 posts

119 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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I might be the 718T, run out parts bin special of the 718.1 before the 718.2 comes along. Cynical marketing at it’s best?

Porsche911R

15,837 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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cmoose said:
The cost cutting idea is quite a leap. The GTx cars aren't about margins, in any case.
Ofcourse they are.

cmoose

43,068 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Porsche911R said:
Ofcourse they are.
No, they are really not.

The GT4 was cheaper list than a base Carrera but unambiguously and clearly the more expensive car to market.

The GT cars are about brand building, not delivering margins on unit sales. Other cars in the range are far better at doing that.