The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
footsoldier said:
GT4RS said:
Correct, I was told they will push the button on the new 992 first as this will bring a bigger audience, which = more money.
I guess we will all just have to sit tight and wait and see. The new car is coming with the new emissions filter and they are apparently getting better results with the new turbo charged engine going in the new 992. The 4.0 is apparently not producing as good emission results due to being N/A, I think we can safely say it’s going to be N/A. What was pointed out to me is they will have better emissions with the pdk box, so they may offer this to help with emission targets as every car counts.
Car should apparently be on the roads by the 2nd quarter next year.
Has anyone heard anything about the revised suspension?
Yes, they’re struggling with filter on the N/a cars. I guess we will all just have to sit tight and wait and see. The new car is coming with the new emissions filter and they are apparently getting better results with the new turbo charged engine going in the new 992. The 4.0 is apparently not producing as good emission results due to being N/A, I think we can safely say it’s going to be N/A. What was pointed out to me is they will have better emissions with the pdk box, so they may offer this to help with emission targets as every car counts.
Car should apparently be on the roads by the 2nd quarter next year.
Has anyone heard anything about the revised suspension?
The GT4 and the Spyder are 4.0l n/a and 420hp. I’ve got pics of the finished cars but can’t post them.
Sorry, forgot to ask which gearboxes!
champ19ns said:
Has anyone locked in an allocation yet with their OPC?
At this stage all anyone can have done is register their intent with a letter to their OPC, nothing else can be done until the car is officially revealed by Porsche.When this happens the OPCs will contact those who have submitted LOIs and ask them if they are still interested with the details of the car now being know, they will then collect a deposit (£10k?).
Then the wait begins. Every quarter each OPC will be given an allocation of all the cars available to them. If that quarter an OPC gets allocated 4 GT4s the dealer principal and the sales team discuss who will be lucky enough to get one based on their buying history and relationship with the dealer etc, being the first to submit an LOI doesn’t mean you will be the first to get one, in fact it doesn’t mean much at all.
Nisher said:
At this stage all anyone can have done is register their intent with a letter to their OPC, nothing else can be done until the car is officially revealed by Porsche.
When this happens the OPCs will contact those who have submitted LOIs and ask them if they are still interested with the details of the car now being know, they will then collect a deposit (£10k?).
Then the wait begins. Every quarter each OPC will be given an allocation of all the cars available to them. If that quarter an OPC gets allocated 4 GT4s the dealer principal and the sales team discuss who will be lucky enough to get one based on their buying history and relationship with the dealer etc, being the first to submit an LOI doesn’t mean you will be the first to get one, in fact it doesn’t mean much at all.
And just to add, when they say it's going to be very limited and they're only getting x no of cars, that just means allocation for that particular year. The following year they may get an allocation of twice the first year in actual fact, although never any guarantees of course, but recent history I think shows this to be the case. When this happens the OPCs will contact those who have submitted LOIs and ask them if they are still interested with the details of the car now being know, they will then collect a deposit (£10k?).
Then the wait begins. Every quarter each OPC will be given an allocation of all the cars available to them. If that quarter an OPC gets allocated 4 GT4s the dealer principal and the sales team discuss who will be lucky enough to get one based on their buying history and relationship with the dealer etc, being the first to submit an LOI doesn’t mean you will be the first to get one, in fact it doesn’t mean much at all.
Porsche911R said:
I agree a Spyder with 50bhp more, gt3running gear and brakes !
Sounds too good to be true what was the last one £59k and buckets were standard .
Where do I sign.
With all that extra power you'd think they could afford to add an electric motor for a more user friendly roof operation.Sounds too good to be true what was the last one £59k and buckets were standard .
Where do I sign.
The present system is a bit of a half way house, not light and removable, and not that 'smart' if you like.
Nisher said:
At this stage all anyone can have done is register their intent with a letter to their OPC, nothing else can be done until the car is officially revealed by Porsche.
When this happens the OPCs will contact those who have submitted LOIs and ask them if they are still interested with the details of the car now being know, they will then collect a deposit (£10k?).
Not quite how it works,When this happens the OPCs will contact those who have submitted LOIs and ask them if they are still interested with the details of the car now being know, they will then collect a deposit (£10k?).
The 10k deposit is when you place a real Order on a real allocation, ie to your spec.
It’s to stop you backing out of a gash spec they cannot sell and it gets paid direct to Porsche.
Any payment before then is NOT a deposit and has nothing to do with Porsche and can be returned any time by your OPC.
If you place a 10k sweatner with a dealer , which is what it is, try and get it in writing it's for an allocation, btw that will be a fat no chance if you ask.
If you trust your dealer they will not ask for any money till you have a firm allocation and place a real order.
As for OPC ringing you and asking if you are still interested lol don't hold your breath.
I do have a feeling though they will build many many more GT4 and Spyders next time round, they are a business and these cars sell, dealers are stuck with 991t and 718 which don't sell very well, if dealers are not placing orders for 718 etc due to the very high current stock that opens up the production line to build 1000's GT4 which do sell.
Porsche prob sell more gt models than normal 911 these days.
Porsche911R said:
I agree a Spyder with 50bhp more, gt3running gear and brakes !
Sounds too good to be true what was the last one £59k and buckets were standard .
Where do I sign.
I know it really would be the most amazing thing that - The Spyder would be like a mini Speedster & the GT4’s a Mini GT3 (not that either of those specs makes them mini - but you know what I mean) Sounds too good to be true what was the last one £59k and buckets were standard .
Where do I sign.
I think the heated buckets weren’t free on the 981, but we’re very cheap to add from memory - Someone will confirm not 100% sure. A really great spec was to be had on the 981 from anywhere between £k68/72 OTR (no PCCB’s in this)
Porsche911R said:
I agree a Spyder with 50bhp more, gt3running gear and brakes !
Sounds too good to be true what was the last one £59k and buckets were standard .
Where do I sign.
You will need to leave that pen in your pencil case!Sounds too good to be true what was the last one £59k and buckets were standard .
Where do I sign.
We all know it’s not going to have a standard list price before extras of 59k, you can properly add at least another 11k to that.
From memory the list price (before extras) of the last gt4 was around 65k, you will also be aware that the boxster used to be cheaper than a cayman when the 981 was manufactured. The boxster is more expensive in the current 718 range, with this in mind it wouldn’t shock me if the new spyder is the same price or even slightly more than the new gt4.
I’m personally really excited about the new gt4 which is due to be launched, IMO it offers an excellent value for money driving experience to the ones who actually use their cars as Porsche intended rather than investments.
The images that I have seen of the car, in what looks to be a factory finished state , look superb. I particularly like how they have shaped the rear wings to curve slightly.
I really do hope we are all in for a nice surprise and that the information that has been given to some of us in regards to the 4.0l engine capacity is correct.
My thoughts are it will use a proportion of the engine components which are in the current gt3 engine as Porsche will want to really progress with the current ever growing GT4 series and the engine which sits in the road car will need to sit in there motorsport car, Porsche don’t move backwards and will use some of this new technology.
But let’s not forget it’s going to be priced accordingly.
GT4RS said:
You will need to leave that pen in your pencil case!
We all know it’s not going to have a standard list price before extras of 59k, you can properly add at least another 11k to that.
From memory the list price (before extras) of the last gt4 was around 65k, you will also be aware that the boxster used to be cheaper than a cayman when the 981 was manufactured. The boxster is more expensive in the current 718 range, with this in mind it wouldn’t shock me if the new spyder is the same price or even slightly more than the new gt4.
I’m personally really excited about the new gt4 which is due to be launched, IMO it offers an excellent value for money driving experience to the ones who actually use their cars as Porsche intended rather than investments.
The images that I have seen of the car, in what looks to be a factory finished state , look superb. I particularly like how they have shaped the rear wings to curve slightly.
I really do hope we are all in for a nice surprise and that the information that has been given to some of us in regards to the 4.0l engine capacity is correct.
My thoughts are it will use a proportion of the engine components which are in the current gt3 engine as Porsche will want to really progress with the current ever growing GT4 series and the engine which sits in the road car will need to sit in there motorsport car, Porsche don’t move backwards and will use some of this new technology.
But let’s not forget it’s going to be priced accordingly.
£59k plus 11k rise (odd figure to pick out the air) , plus the £10k options is still mega cheap for a car of this rumoured spec. That’s £40k less than a GT3 with the same £10k options. We all know it’s not going to have a standard list price before extras of 59k, you can properly add at least another 11k to that.
From memory the list price (before extras) of the last gt4 was around 65k, you will also be aware that the boxster used to be cheaper than a cayman when the 981 was manufactured. The boxster is more expensive in the current 718 range, with this in mind it wouldn’t shock me if the new spyder is the same price or even slightly more than the new gt4.
I’m personally really excited about the new gt4 which is due to be launched, IMO it offers an excellent value for money driving experience to the ones who actually use their cars as Porsche intended rather than investments.
The images that I have seen of the car, in what looks to be a factory finished state , look superb. I particularly like how they have shaped the rear wings to curve slightly.
I really do hope we are all in for a nice surprise and that the information that has been given to some of us in regards to the 4.0l engine capacity is correct.
My thoughts are it will use a proportion of the engine components which are in the current gt3 engine as Porsche will want to really progress with the current ever growing GT4 series and the engine which sits in the road car will need to sit in there motorsport car, Porsche don’t move backwards and will use some of this new technology.
But let’s not forget it’s going to be priced accordingly.
As I said all sounds a bit too good to be true esp when people are specing and driving 350bhp base 911T's about over £100k ! With a crap spec sheet all told.
Interesting times but the figures don’t add up vs the spec atm.
Also a descent 718 GTS is 75k with the must haves.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 19th August 10:49
How are they odd fugues? You said the 981 spyder was £59k, we all know the new gt4 will have a base cost of around 70k before extras.
70k base plus 10k extras makes it a 80k car?
For the ones who are able to buy at list this represents a great car for the price point.
What other GT cars can you buy with a clubsport pack for 80k new?
70k base plus 10k extras makes it a 80k car?
For the ones who are able to buy at list this represents a great car for the price point.
What other GT cars can you buy with a clubsport pack for 80k new?
Twinfan said:
So no then. You have a verbal agreement only.
You're only locked in to a car once it's announced, you've configured it, paid a deposit and have an order form. To have all of the above is currently impossible, as 911R says.
Yes, that is what I have. Thanks Twinfan for clarifying ! The dealer told me they think the will have an allocation, so it is 99.9% guaranteed. The question is if to go for a Spyder or a GT4. You're only locked in to a car once it's announced, you've configured it, paid a deposit and have an order form. To have all of the above is currently impossible, as 911R says.
GT4RS said:
we all know the new gt4 will have a base cost of around 70k before extras.
Not sure any one here knows what the price will be.I am saying it all sounds too good to be true atm eps the Spyder specs.
Great if so but we were all saying the GT3 is a steel at £130k the GT4 if the specs are true at £40k cheaper will be amazing value.
£5k more over the old one for a bespoke 420bhp 4.0l car !
As I said where do I sign.
The rear is ugly but I can forgo that for £70k
Boxster_racer said:
Yes, that is what I have. Thanks Twinfan for clarifying ! The dealer told me they think the will have an allocation, so it is 99.9% guaranteed. The question is if to go for a Spyder or a GT4.
It's zero guarantee sorry to say, you get the 100% guarantee when you place an order that’s it. I hope your OPC stand by the promise , but we see it time and time again disappointment and returned deposits.
Porsche911R said:
Not sure any one here knows what the price will be.
I am saying it all sounds too good to be true atm eps the Spyder specs.
Great if so but we were all saying the GT3 is a steel at £130k the GT4 if the specs are true at £40k cheaper will be amazing value.
£5k more over the old one for a bespoke 420bhp 4.0l car !
As I said where do I sign.
The rear is ugly but I can forgo that for £70k
I wouldn’t say a gt3 is a steel for 130k and it’s definitely not a steel for 20k to 30k overs on top. Many think the same due to the crazy amount for sale in the flippers / overs market.I am saying it all sounds too good to be true atm eps the Spyder specs.
Great if so but we were all saying the GT3 is a steel at £130k the GT4 if the specs are true at £40k cheaper will be amazing value.
£5k more over the old one for a bespoke 420bhp 4.0l car !
As I said where do I sign.
The rear is ugly but I can forgo that for £70k
No one has said it will be the full blown gt3 engine, the car will be around 40k less so why on earth would they put a full blown gt3 engine in it?
I take it you have seen the final finished rear end of the gt4 road car to say it’s ugly?
You really are a strange fish, always criticism to cars which you don’t own.
Porsche911R said:
Boxster_racer said:
Yes, that is what I have. Thanks Twinfan for clarifying ! The dealer told me they think the will have an allocation, so it is 99.9% guaranteed. The question is if to go for a Spyder or a GT4.
It's zero guarantee sorry to say, you get the 100% guarantee when you place an order that’s it. I hope your OPC stand by the promise , but we see it time and time again disappointment and returned deposits.
Porsche911R said:
Not sure any one here knows what the price will be.
I am saying it all sounds too good to be true atm eps the Spyder specs.
Great if so but we were all saying the GT3 is a steel at £130k the GT4 if the specs are true at £40k cheaper will be amazing value.
£5k more over the old one for a bespoke 420bhp 4.0l car !
As I said where do I sign.
The rear is ugly but I can forgo that for £70k
YepI am saying it all sounds too good to be true atm eps the Spyder specs.
Great if so but we were all saying the GT3 is a steel at £130k the GT4 if the specs are true at £40k cheaper will be amazing value.
£5k more over the old one for a bespoke 420bhp 4.0l car !
As I said where do I sign.
The rear is ugly but I can forgo that for £70k
That rear is proper fugly, and it'll be the first Porsche with a GPF filter and further restricted noise levels. It'll be different for sure.
Not sure I'd trade a current "good" car for an unknown. No chance to drive before buying. If you're adding it to a garage then that's different.
Not sure I'd trade a current "good" car for an unknown. No chance to drive before buying. If you're adding it to a garage then that's different.
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