The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
Twinfan said:
Good info - from the tea lady? 
I guess the styling could change, but it looks a hell of a lot like an almost finished car...
Yes very much from my cleaning / tea lady but she's quite reliable and is very sure its normally aspirated. I guess the styling could change, but it looks a hell of a lot like an almost finished car...
Final gt4 won't look like this though as has been said. Rear end (unfortunately) perhaps and the wheels. The rest of the body is 718 GTS to my eye.
I've been doing some digging around and here's the info I've gleaned from the web on the pics:
1. The photo was taken in the "mule" parking area, hence the similar looking cars around it.
2. The car seems to have a manual gearbox.
3. The front spoiler is identical to that on the 718 GTS.
4. Side scoops are bog standard 718 versions.
5. The rear diffuser and exhaust configuration matches the one on an all-black Spyder mule spotted in the US recently.
6. Yellow and green emissions stickers on the windscreen show it's not an approved existing engine, otherwise just the green would be displayed (EURO 4 standard).
Conclusions/questions?
1. The engines in the next Spyder and hot Cayman will be the same, as we've seen on the 987/981 models (bar a few horses difference here and there).
2. A flat four turbo seems unlikely given the change in exhaust configuration, and the Clubsport is staying NA so an NA engine seems most likely. 4.0ltr version of the current 3.8ltr is the one rumoured.
3. Why test a new rear aero package without the matching front? That doesn't make sense to me unless this car has the final aero configuration.
4. Will it just be called a Porsche GT4, minus the '718' branding, if it doesn't have a four-pot?
1. The photo was taken in the "mule" parking area, hence the similar looking cars around it.
2. The car seems to have a manual gearbox.
3. The front spoiler is identical to that on the 718 GTS.
4. Side scoops are bog standard 718 versions.
5. The rear diffuser and exhaust configuration matches the one on an all-black Spyder mule spotted in the US recently.
6. Yellow and green emissions stickers on the windscreen show it's not an approved existing engine, otherwise just the green would be displayed (EURO 4 standard).
Conclusions/questions?
1. The engines in the next Spyder and hot Cayman will be the same, as we've seen on the 987/981 models (bar a few horses difference here and there).
2. A flat four turbo seems unlikely given the change in exhaust configuration, and the Clubsport is staying NA so an NA engine seems most likely. 4.0ltr version of the current 3.8ltr is the one rumoured.
3. Why test a new rear aero package without the matching front? That doesn't make sense to me unless this car has the final aero configuration.
4. Will it just be called a Porsche GT4, minus the '718' branding, if it doesn't have a four-pot?
Twinfan said:
I've been doing some digging around and here's the info I've gleaned from the web on the pics:
1. The photo was taken in the "mule" parking area, hence the similar looking cars around it.
2. The car seems to have a manual gearbox.
3. The front spoiler is identical to that on the 718 GTS.
4. Side scoops are bog standard 718 versions.
5. The rear diffuser and exhaust configuration matches the one on an all-black Spyder mule spotted in the US recently.
6. Yellow and green emissions stickers on the windscreen show it's not an approved existing engine, otherwise just the green would be displayed (EURO 4 standard).
Conclusions/questions?
1. The engines in the next Spyder and hot Cayman will be the same, as we've seen on the 987/981 models (bar a few horses difference here and there).
2. A flat four turbo seems unlikely given the change in exhaust configuration, and the Clubsport is staying NA so an NA engine seems most likely. 4.0ltr version of the current 3.8ltr is the one rumoured.
3. Why test a new rear aero package without the matching front? That doesn't make sense to me unless this car has the final aero configuration.
4. Will it just be called a Porsche GT4, minus the '718' branding, if it doesn't have a four-pot?
So by digging you mean summarising the content of this thread? 1. The photo was taken in the "mule" parking area, hence the similar looking cars around it.
2. The car seems to have a manual gearbox.
3. The front spoiler is identical to that on the 718 GTS.
4. Side scoops are bog standard 718 versions.
5. The rear diffuser and exhaust configuration matches the one on an all-black Spyder mule spotted in the US recently.
6. Yellow and green emissions stickers on the windscreen show it's not an approved existing engine, otherwise just the green would be displayed (EURO 4 standard).
Conclusions/questions?
1. The engines in the next Spyder and hot Cayman will be the same, as we've seen on the 987/981 models (bar a few horses difference here and there).
2. A flat four turbo seems unlikely given the change in exhaust configuration, and the Clubsport is staying NA so an NA engine seems most likely. 4.0ltr version of the current 3.8ltr is the one rumoured.
3. Why test a new rear aero package without the matching front? That doesn't make sense to me unless this car has the final aero configuration.
4. Will it just be called a Porsche GT4, minus the '718' branding, if it doesn't have a four-pot?
4.0 - you’d have to downtune it by a good margin and not sure Porsche would go the effort and drop it in a sub £70k car. Sort of devalues the flagship GT engine.
3.0t - really didn’t think it would happen from various comments stating NA for as long as possible... and then probably Hybrid before forced but after latest pics I’m thinking maybe this could possibly be turbo to butter us up for possibly more GT turbos. And GT4 needs to be kept to a budget.
My money though is still on 3.8 - not power kit but standard 991.1 C2S power (400hp?) and red line increased.
In some ways I’d be interested if it was turbo charged - with a effing dollop of lag and a few flames here and there
3.0t - really didn’t think it would happen from various comments stating NA for as long as possible... and then probably Hybrid before forced but after latest pics I’m thinking maybe this could possibly be turbo to butter us up for possibly more GT turbos. And GT4 needs to be kept to a budget.
My money though is still on 3.8 - not power kit but standard 991.1 C2S power (400hp?) and red line increased.
In some ways I’d be interested if it was turbo charged - with a effing dollop of lag and a few flames here and there
Phooey said:
4.0 - you’d have to downtune it by a good margin and not sure Porsche would go the effort and drop it in a sub £70k car. Sort of devalues the flagship GT engine.
3.0t - really didn’t think it would happen from various comments stating NA for as long as possible... and then probably Hybrid before forced but after latest pics I’m thinking maybe this could possibly be turbo to butter us up for possibly more GT turbos. And GT4 needs to be kept to a budget.
My money though is still on 3.8 - not power kit but standard 991.1 C2S power (400hp?) and red line increased.
In some ways I’d be interested if it was turbo charged - with a effing dollop of lag and a few flames here and there
By 4.0 they mean a 4 litre version of the current 3.8 so not the motorsport one, That's what my masseuse told me anyway... 3.0t - really didn’t think it would happen from various comments stating NA for as long as possible... and then probably Hybrid before forced but after latest pics I’m thinking maybe this could possibly be turbo to butter us up for possibly more GT turbos. And GT4 needs to be kept to a budget.
My money though is still on 3.8 - not power kit but standard 991.1 C2S power (400hp?) and red line increased.
In some ways I’d be interested if it was turbo charged - with a effing dollop of lag and a few flames here and there
twinfan said:
For comparison, a previous mule looked like this:
IMHO... this is the first 982 Spyder Mule, not a GTS. Look at the brakes and wheels... they are GT4s in the back and Spyder wheels in the front. Has the standard roof, but it’s more than likely a motor, suspension test vehicle, not cosmetic production body car.Edited by Navanod on Tuesday 7th November 07:49
Fokker said:
By 4.0 they mean a 4 litre version of the current 3.8 so not the motorsport one, That's what my masseuse told me anyway...
I don't see the point. 3.8 makes upto 430hp anyhow and no way the GT4 will get over the full 430. My bet is on 3.8 400hp. Can't see Porsche throwing unnecessary money at the £65k GT4 when they have all the parts on the shelf to already better the last one.Anyway, it's all speculation and part of the fun
Phooey said:
I don't see the point. 3.8 makes upto 430hp anyhow and no way the GT4 will get over the full 430. My bet is on 3.8 400hp. Can't see Porsche throwing unnecessary money at the £65k GT4 when they have all the parts on the shelf to already better the last one.
Anyway, it's all speculation and part of the fun
Every facelift GT car has come with a 200cc increase. Porsche are predictable! I agree the 3.8 with power kit would be excellent.Anyway, it's all speculation and part of the fun
I was told it was a 4 litre hence.
Fokker said:
Every facelift GT car has come with a 200cc increase. Porsche are predictable! I agree the 3.8 with power kit would be excellent.
I was told it was a 4 litre hence.
996 to 997.1 both 3.6!I was told it was a 4 litre hence.
997.2 to 991.1 both 3.8!
Agree with the moose a 3.8 would be better than a choked 4.0
Edited by GT4P on Tuesday 7th November 17:00
GT4P said:
996 to 997.1 both 3.6!
997.2 to 991.1 both 3.8!
Agree with the moose a 3.8 would be better than a choked 4.0
Aha, I said every facelift... 997.2 to 991.1 both 3.8!
Agree with the moose a 3.8 would be better than a choked 4.0
Edited by GT4P on Tuesday 7th November 17:00
996 - 3.4 to 3.6
997 - 3.6 to 3.8
991 - 3.8 to 4.0
The 718 is effectively a mild refresh apart form the turbo b
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