The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
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Coxey said:
Fokker said:
Cheib said:
As the owner of an S Diesel that makes me happy assuming it doesn't get taxed to oblviion! Mine is a year old so Euro 6 compliant. I nearly bought an ex-demo Hybrid before ordering the S Diesel but because of a) how it drove and b) how we use our car it just didn't make sense. 10 months old and 15,000 mile on the clock.
12 months old now and 10k miles on mine. Love it to bits. Its the ultimate family wagen!ags11 said:
With the emissions updates that'll probably rule out a 3rd batch of Gt3's( in the Eu at least) When the factory starts up again in the Autumn, is it then more unlikely we'll see a NA GT4?
I collected a car this week from an OPC & talking to the sales guy who knows my interest in a 718 GT4 said his view is the next GT4 will be turbo. However, that is not based on any information he has heard just his 'gut' feel FWIW. I really hope not. But we all know there will soon be an end to NA GT cars. I firmly would love the next GT4 to be NA like everyone else.I did notice in the March edition of evo a article about which cars to look out for in 2018. It said we will be seeing a NA Spyder & GT4 later this year. It was the use of words. There was no use of 'we hope' or 'we think' which is encouraging.
Edited by GameofCars on Friday 26th January 14:35
GameofCars said:
I collected a car this week from an OPC & talking to the sales guy who knows my interest in a 718 GT4 said his view is the next GT4 will be turbo. However, that is not based on any information he has heard just his 'gut' feel FWIW. I really hope not. But we all know there will soon be an end to NA GT cars. I firmly would love the next GT4 to be NA like everyone else.
I did notice in the March edition of evo a article about which cars to look out for in 2018. It said we will be seeing a NA Spyder & GT4 later this year. It was the use of words. There was no use of 'we hope' or 'we think' which is encouraging.
Half of me wouldn't mind because I love my GT4 so much and it would appreciate quite substantially in value if this was the case although I strongly suspect not. It all depends on whether they can get it past the new and very strict emissions laws which are coming into force later this year and why most OPC's can only hope for about 2 - 3 GT3RS's because there simply isn't time to get many through production considering this extended factory shut down and the looming Sept (I think) emissions introduction.I did notice in the March edition of evo a article about which cars to look out for in 2018. It said we will be seeing a NA Spyder & GT4 later this year. It was the use of words. There was no use of 'we hope' or 'we think' which is encouraging.
Edited by GameofCars on Friday 26th January 14:35
My dealer thinks they will have very few 991.2 RS'. How they would get a N/A GT4 through emissions I have no idea if its after Sept which its going to be.
This new DPF or PPF as in petrol cars is going to have to be a magical thing!
So the Spyder breaks covers.. https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-porsche/porsch... and speculation rife about nasp lump in the middle.
hixster said:
So the Spyder breaks covers.. https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-porsche/porsch... and speculation rife about nasp lump in the middle.
I really hope this is that case - that the next GT4 will follow with a NA flat six. I have always said the next GT4 will have a NA flat six; however comments from someone in the 'know' has shed considerable doubt, saying the journos have exaggerated this.GameofCars said:
I really hope this is that case - that the next GT4 will follow with a NA flat six. I have always said the next GT4 will have a NA flat six; however comments from someone in the 'know' has shed considerable doubt, saying the journos have exaggerated this.
It has the 4 litre flat 6 from the GT3 albeit with less power and slightly different components here and there. My masseuse told me ages ago which is concrete news from the factory.Why do people still think its a bloody turbo?!
Fokker said:
GameofCars said:
I really hope this is that case - that the next GT4 will follow with a NA flat six. I have always said the next GT4 will have a NA flat six; however comments from someone in the 'know' has shed considerable doubt, saying the journos have exaggerated this.
It has the 4 litre flat 6 from the GT3 albeit with less power and slightly different components here and there. My masseuse told me ages ago which is concrete news from the factory.Why do people still think its a bloody turbo?!
The next GT4 might well be the full gt3 4L but it might not be in a Cayman, it could be in a new 911 based car.
A new race car GT4 is on the cards as Porsche need to step it up due to the competition but it doesn't mean we will see a road going version.
Porsche have been very clever with what they have said about the GT4 and you can take it in many different directions but there was a great post from a guy that races for Porsche I think that was at a Porsche race meeting this week and had some very interesting info on it all and a new road going Cayman GT4 might not even be coming
But only time will tell but can't see a new road going GT4 this year and we all know the regs are changing so let's all wait and see I guess
As for no noise clips of these mule cars, well i do know one guy that's heard one and it wasn't a full fat singing N.A. engine that he heard coming out the back of it
A new race car GT4 is on the cards as Porsche need to step it up due to the competition but it doesn't mean we will see a road going version.
Porsche have been very clever with what they have said about the GT4 and you can take it in many different directions but there was a great post from a guy that races for Porsche I think that was at a Porsche race meeting this week and had some very interesting info on it all and a new road going Cayman GT4 might not even be coming
But only time will tell but can't see a new road going GT4 this year and we all know the regs are changing so let's all wait and see I guess
As for no noise clips of these mule cars, well i do know one guy that's heard one and it wasn't a full fat singing N.A. engine that he heard coming out the back of it
Edited by DuncGTS on Thursday 1st February 21:28
I’d agree with all of that cmoose except the last sentence. I think the logic is for the GT4 to have a Turbo 4 cylinder because that’s what the car was engineered around....it’ll be much cheaper for Porsche to do. I have no idea but I’d imagine getting a naturally aspirated 4.0 flat six engine into a mid engined car that was designed around a 2.5 cylinder turbo unit must be quite difficult and not to say bloody expensive on an engineering basis as well as the cost of the engine. Or the GT4 carries on from the 981 and uses an engine from the 911 Carrera S so it uses the 3.0 Turbo....if you think about it that’s what actually makes sense in terms of following precedent.
Cheib said:
I have no idea but I’d imagine getting a naturally aspirated 4.0 flat six engine into a mid engined car that was designed around a 2.5 cylinder turbo unit must be quite difficult
Not really, the internal dims are the same as the 981 which accomodated the 3.4l + 3.8l engine (S/GT4/Spyder) in it before the 4pot - only reason for dropping the 2 cylinders was because 6 cylinders AND a turbo wouldn't fit.Cheib said:
I’d agree with all of that cmoose except the last sentence. I think the logic is for the GT4 to have a Turbo 4 cylinder because that’s what the car was engineered around....it’ll be much cheaper for Porsche to do. I have no idea but I’d imagine getting a naturally aspirated 4.0 flat six engine into a mid engined car that was designed around a 2.5 cylinder turbo unit must be quite difficult and not to say bloody expensive on an engineering basis as well as the cost of the engine. Or the GT4 carries on from the 981 and uses an engine from the 911 Carrera S so it uses the 3.0 Turbo....if you think about it that’s what actually makes sense in terms of following precedent.
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