The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

[JAhmed]

0Q, Satin Alu wheels, PCCB + black caliper, buckets, LED/PDLS, some interior bits.

$123,320 USD

Spec done & given to the dealer, now the waiting game begins!!!

[RSVP911]

Am I being thick, but can someone explain how a bump in bhp from 370 to 420 on the Spyder doesn’t translate into any perceived headline performance or torque by the look of things ? I know it’s heavier but it does seem odd ? Confused.com

[ChrisW.]

Fokker said:

Are they up on the configurator? Someone said (ChrisW) that you get access from the back end?

Does this mean something ?

[BubblesNW]

ChrisW. said:

Fokker said:

Are they up on the configurator? Someone said (ChrisW) that you get access from the back end?

Does this mean something ?

Nothing to worry about, just some confusion regarding getting on the configurator before it was opened up properly. You were quoted as the source but it was actually someone else.

[ChrisW.]

Thanks !!

This time it wan't me ... I may have a terrible memory for names, but I generally remember what I have done

[RSVP911]

anonymous said:

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So the sexy headline of 4.0L and about 15% more BHP is simply click bait then as in terms of change in performance it means nothing - have I got this right ?

After playing on the configurator I think the car is about £k10 more like for like for nothing then ?

[Yidwann]

Nearly 4k for Buckets and £1200 for contrast stitching seems slightly pisstakery.... mine has come to 91k, looks bloody lovely though, bit too rich for me though, I'll still be waiting for the new GTS-6

https://www.porsche-code.com/PLN97LW1

Edited by Yidwann on Wednesday 19th June 08:34

[isaldiri]

RSVP911 said:

So the sexy headline of 4.0L and about 15% more BHP is simply click bait then as in terms of change in performance it means nothing - have I got this right ?

After playing on the configurator I think the car is about £k10 more like for like for nothing then ?

Only if you consider performance as purely straight line speed....

[Porsche911R]

isaldiri said:

Only if you consider performance as purely straight line speed....

one always expects a jump from model to model though esp when paying out more, Porsche newer cars are always faster.

I am really stuck about the new GT4, it's got very fat, the CO2 is UP ! and it has Stop start which drops that figure a lot but it is still sky high.
the cars no faster in a straight line and it does less MPG which for the GT4 I never thought possible, mine did 6 mpg on track ! and only 12 mpg on a hoon.

the new cars going to only have a 70 mile track range !

the Spyder jumped close to 180kg more than the 987.2 car !

Spyder seems the better buy now but it's just got a bit over weight :-( plus no free buckets this time round, and NO folding buckets option on the GT4 !!!

Sadly they are still market leading cars, even though the headline figures and specs seem a bit crap so Porsche has no competition in this segment.
85mph 2nd gear is a real shame only offering torque as a way out.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 19th June 10:05

[TDT]

We'll really have to wait until we get some driving impressions and/or deliveries.

It's a tricky one....would Porsche sandbag on figures?

[av185]

Porsche911R said:

Spyder seems the better buy now but it's just got a bit over weight :-( plus no free buckets this time round, and NO folding buckets option on the GT4 !!!

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 19th June 10:05

And the Spyder has a fully 'manuel' roof to cut weight as well.

Agree these cars will be heavy on fuel relative to their performance. Both the 981 Spyder and GT4 are way heavier on fuel than the GT3.

You will have to go comfort spec on the 718 seeing as you hate the fixed buckets.:

[Fokker]

ChrisW. said:

Does this mean something ?

Sorry to type 'back door' and your handle in the same sentence Chris. Wasn't intentional

[Porsche911R]

av185 said:

And the Spyder has a fully 'manuel' roof to cut weight as well.

Agree these cars will be heavy on fuel relative to their performance. Both the 981 Spyder and GT4 are way heavier on fuel than the GT3.

You will have to go comfort spec on the 718 seeing as you hate the fixed buckets.:

I am trying to order a Spyder as a daily run about, my spec came to £82k I'll just swap my 991.1 GTS for one if it happens, not fussed either way to be honest but the steering feel in the 991.1 is annoying, every thing else is spot on esp that x51 engine.

I don't fancy a GT4 which is a shame, I wanted a mini mid engine GT3 and it's not the right spec for me to swap, so will keep my GT3 and stay skint lol

[Fokker]

At least the new car comes with the updated PCM.

[isaldiri]

Porsche911R said:

one always expects a jump from model to model though esp when paying out more, Porsche newer cars are always faster.

85mph 2nd gear is a real shame only offering torque as a way out.

I expect the new gt4 to be faster on track. It will be.

P.S and 85mph is what a 991.2gt3 will do in 2nd gear too

[BubblesNW]

anonymous said:

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However, this doesn’t compute. Same gearing, 9% more power and the same acceleration figures suggest the weight has increased significantly to offset the power increase.

[RSVP911]

anonymous said:

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I think I just don’t understand how such an increase in BHP and engine capacity doesn’t give differing stats - I’m not at all technical and as such it’s genuine confusion on my part. I thought the BHP would translate to more grunt at lower revs - basically I have no idea and I thought someone who understands this sort of thing could help - I can only assume that you need the extra BHP / capacity to offset the weight gain. I think all I was trying to say is for a layman like me , the headline grabbing figures on the face of it would make one think it would be a different power proposition to the last one, which for the record I thought was epic, so I don’t care other than it’s about £k 10 more and I wonder what I’m getting for the extra £k 10 (other than they can/ the last one was too cheap)

[Fokker]

I think if you look at the cost of a 991.2, the 981 GT4 at £65k plus options was, indeed, a bargain.

You just have to pay £10k more for what is a very similar car.

Great cars through...

[GT4P]

anonymous said:

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I am sure the 0- 100 mph official figure is lower than on the old one ie 9.3? Vs 9.0, I have the 981 gt4 brochure and the 0-200kmh is 14.5 so it will be interesting to see what the new figure is!
Also not sure it's much heavier than the old one or the CO2 has increased greatly which is down to WLTP

[av185]

RSVP911 said:

I think I just don’t understand how such an increase in BHP and engine capacity doesn’t give differing stats - I’m not at all technical and as such it’s genuine confusion on my part. I thought the BHP would translate to more grunt at lower revs - basically I have no idea and I thought someone who understands this sort of thing could help - I can only assume that you need the extra BHP / capacity to offset the weight gain. I think all I was trying to say is for a layman like me , the headline grabbing figures on the face of it would make one think it would be a different power proposition to the last one, which for the record I thought was epic, so I don’t care other than it’s about £k 10 more and I wonder what I’m getting for the extra £k 10 (other than they can/ the last one was too cheap)

Looks like the £10k or 15.5% price increase of the GT4 and £13k or 21.5% price increase of the Spyder does not translate to a correspondingly and proportionately better package over the previous model, unlike the GT3, which in terms of percentage price increase (10%) was fantastic value over it's predecessor.