The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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gpgts

34 posts

35 months

Tuesday 14th May
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cmoose said:
I think the shift and the focus will largely involve new cars - ie banning the sale of new combustion cars rather than banning existing combustion cars. Already, cars over 40 years old are exempt from the ULEZ, by way of example.

30 years from now when pretty much every new car has been electric for 20 years, the natural turn over of the installed base of cars will mean there are hardly any combustion cars left and little incentive to seek punitive measures. Of course at that point, they will be a pain to sue because if there's hardly any left, nearly all the filling stations will be gone.

Eventually, I think all human driven cars will be banned, but that's perhaps far enough out for us lot not to worry.

I'd go with your forever car plan. There will probably be some restrictions in the next 10-20 years - town centres etc. But I think there's quite a bit of fun driving to come yet.
Thanks for a making such a compelling response and response. I do have other cars - one a PHEV. I would love the 718 Spyder to be the forever car as I think it will be one of the last of its kind. And the fact that you can row your own and will (hopefully) have a sweet 6 NASP will make it all the more sweeter.

PaulAlex

35 posts

33 months

Wednesday 15th May
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If the 718 GT4 really is delayed towards the end of the year - which surely isn't the best time to be buying such a car - I do wonder if 981s will see a little price support throughout the summer? I was considering a move from my current GT4 to a 718, but now wonder whether to hold on to it or possibly even consider a 992 911CS........

First world problems I guess! smile

av185

8,109 posts

68 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Unfortunately the turret failure issues affecting GT4s isn't helping sales and prices.

Although mine hasn't collapsed as yet lol.

GT4RS

1,581 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th May
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av185 said:
Unfortunately the turret failure issues affecting GT4s isn't helping sales and prices.

Although mine hasn't collapsed as yet lol.
Let’s not forget the turret issues is effecting the 991.1 gt3 and 991.2 gt3 as well, you just don’t hear of it so much as many are garage queens, in all fairness gt4 cars seem to get used as intended by many owners 👍

Gt4 cars seem to be selling well at the moment compared to other GT cars, they don’t hang around for two minutes in my OPC

av185

8,109 posts

68 months

Wednesday 15th May
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GT4RS said:
Let’s not forget the turret issues is effecting the 991.1 gt3 and 991.2 gt3 as well, you just don’t hear of it so much as many are garage queens, in all fairness gt4 cars seem to get used as intended by many owners ??

Gt4 cars seem to be selling well at the moment compared to other GT cars, they don’t hang around for two minutes in my OPC
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.

Looking at the mileages GT4s as likely to be a garage queen as GT3 btw.
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TDT

1,366 posts

60 months

Wednesday 15th May
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av185 said:
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.
LMGTFY…

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r...

av185

8,109 posts

68 months

Wednesday 15th May
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TDT said:
av185 said:
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.
LMGTFY…

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r...
Lowering ride height and driver error as usual are a lethal combination.

JayK12

1,655 posts

143 months

Wednesday 15th May
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av185 said:
TDT said:
av185 said:
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.
LMGTFY…

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r...
Lowering ride height and driver error as usual are a lethal combination.
So is denial.




Fokker

3,344 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Any issues with the 981 Spyder with regards to the turret issues?

Surely if it was a major issue, there would be a recall?

TDT

1,366 posts

60 months

Wednesday 15th May
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JayK12 said:
av185 said:
TDT said:
av185 said:
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.
LMGTFY…

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r...
Lowering ride height and driver error as usual are a lethal combination.
So is denial.
Lol

GT4P

3,701 posts

126 months

Wednesday 15th May
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All 9x1 share the same front end so could affect any model overtime especially models driven daily over our crappy pot hole ridden roads!

GT4RS

1,581 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th May
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JayK12 said:
av185 said:
TDT said:
av185 said:
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.
LMGTFY…

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r...
Lowering ride height and driver error as usual are a lethal combination.
So is denial.

It’s AV185 way or no way!

GT4RS

1,581 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th May
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GT4P said:
All 9x1 share the same front end so could affect any model overtime especially models driven daily over our crappy pot hole ridden roads!

I guess it’s down to how these cars are driven, I would imagine many have had a hard life and one or two have just been unlucky and hit a rather large pot hole in the road.


rkwm1

Original Poster:

577 posts

43 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Fokker said:
Ive now hear no and that it'll be end of the year at the LA Autoshow

I guess we'll see?
yikes So no car otr until early next year?!

Crazy!

TrackNutz

122 posts

17 months

Wednesday 15th May
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My two pence.....you lower the ride height, you hit a kerb, bump stop compresses to limit, force transferred into strut top, game over.

Leave it set to factory setup and you'll be fine.

Taffy66

2,360 posts

43 months

Wednesday 15th May
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TrackNutz said:
My two pence.....you lower the ride height, you hit a kerb, bump stop compresses to limit, force transferred into strut top, game over.

Leave it set to factory setup and you'll be fine.
Absolutely correct IMO..

av185

8,109 posts

68 months

Wednesday 15th May
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GT4RS said:
JayK12 said:
av185 said:
TDT said:
av185 said:
Have you got a link to the 991 turret issues? Haven't seen or heard of any.
LMGTFY…

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r...
Lowering ride height and driver error as usual are a lethal combination.
So is denial.

It’s AV185 way or no way!
Until someone posts a link with concrete proof there is a major failure rate of turrets on UNMODDED cars during normal road or track use it is essentially a non issue.

Milnsey

133 posts

161 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Fokker said:
Any issues with the 981 Spyder with regards to the turret issues?

Surely if it was a major issue, there would be a recall?
Think Spyder same suspension as GTS so not as stiff as GT4

ttdan

946 posts

134 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Taffy66 said:
TrackNutz said:
My two pence.....you lower the ride height, you hit a kerb, bump stop compresses to limit, force transferred into strut top, game over.

Leave it set to factory setup and you'll be fine.
Absolutely correct IMO..
Or put a set of dampers on there that have a decent fast bump adjustment perhaps.

JayK12

1,655 posts

143 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Taffy66 said:
TrackNutz said:
My two pence.....you lower the ride height, you hit a kerb, bump stop compresses to limit, force transferred into strut top, game over.

Leave it set to factory setup and you'll be fine.
Absolutely correct IMO..
Lol you think its acceptable to blow a turret if the car has had a lowered ride height. Most people lowering these cars will be putting springs matched to dampers, i.e a full kit. It shouldn't happen period. Ive lowered loads of cars, road cars, race cars, hit sausage kerbs on track and no issue. This is definitely a weakness.


Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 15th May 20:35