981S vs Base 781 Cayman ?

[Pinball]

I went for a base 718. Comparable or perhaps better performance to the 981S, plus had the advantage of being price dropped against the boxster and a bit more standard kit vs it’s predecessor so it seemed like a good buy before the price increases. I also preferred the cosmetic changes and tech updates. That said, the best advice has been given. Drive both and see which you prefer.

Edited by Pinball on Tuesday 20th February 21:34

[n4aat]

Jimmckay67 said:

So lets sum this up.
Every car you buy or have is stunningly brilliant but if someone makes an alternate choice that car is crap.
Seems fair!

It’s always been this. Although in David’s defence I would suggest it is more a case of, find a brilliant car and buy it, rather than buy a car and call it brilliant.

[SkinnyPete]

n4aat said:

Jimmckay67 said:

So lets sum this up.
Every car you buy or have is stunningly brilliant but if someone makes an alternate choice that car is crap.
Seems fair!

It’s always been this. Although in David’s defence I would suggest it is more a case of, find a brilliant car and buy it, rather than buy a car and call it brilliant.

MrDemon speaks the truth, and the less enlightened people on this forum get offended.

[Jimmckay67]

n4aat said:

It’s always been this. Although in David’s defence I would suggest it is more a case of, find a brilliant car and buy it, rather than buy a car and call it brilliant.

That may be so but it doesn't follow on that someone making a different choice has picked an inferior car.
He seems to like to present this as fact as opposed to an opinion.

[n4aat]

Jimmckay67 said:

That may be so but it doesn't follow on that someone making a different choice has picked an inferior car.
He seems to like to present this as fact as opposed to an opinion.

Totally agree. And where he may get backs up is in believing his opinion is fact. And that no other opinion is valid. But I’m sure he really knows that, hey David.

[bob2146]

Thank you all for your various views & opinions. Have decided on a 718 in the end as it is the newer car. It also seems to include more of the basics as standard than the 981 did, where even the bluetooth was an option. I think I was initially swayed by reading all the passionate reviews of the F 'six on various forums yet when you actually drive the car, the 718 also sounds quite good (to me at least). Reading the latest review (of the 781S) in a US publication also seems to be complementary on the sound, particularly if you are already onboard with turbo driving characteristics. Are people finally warming to it?

Sounds like it may be a bit of a wait though, I guess I can live with that.

https://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/audi-tt-r...

"Rest in peace, flat-six, and long live the turbo four!"

Edited by bob2146 on Thursday 22 February 12:31

[tcs0tm]

I drove both and went with the 718 actually got an S but the engine seems a bit more free revving in the base. Not sure if it’s in my head but I feel like the exhaust note has actually changed over time, just crossed 4,000 miles and it feels special to me every time I get in it. Always best to take reviews and opinions of others with a pinch of salt and take them out yourself.

[SkinnyPete]

n4aat said:

Jimmckay67 said:

That may be so but it doesn't follow on that someone making a different choice has picked an inferior car.
He seems to like to present this as fact as opposed to an opinion.

Totally agree. And where he may get backs up is in believing his opinion is fact. And that no other opinion is valid. But I’m sure he really knows that, hey David.

From what I’ve read his opinions are based on facts, so they are essentially the same thing.

His argument and logic is sound, unfortunately people on this forum get emotional when they realise they’ve spent a lot of money on a crap car.

[n4aat]

SkinnyPete said:

From what I’ve read his opinions are based on facts, so they are essentially the same thing.

His argument and logic is sound, unfortunately people on this forum get emotional when they realise they’ve spent a lot of money on a crap car.

You haven’t looked very hard. Second post in this thread. That’s my last post on the subject. It’s a bit weird talking about him like this.

[Jimmckay67]

SkinnyPete said:

From what I’ve read his opinions are based on facts, so they are essentially the same thing.

His argument and logic is sound, unfortunately people on this forum get emotional when they realise they’ve spent a lot of money on a crap car.

Oh dear.
We are a bit short on social skills aren't we.

[_Leg_]

bob2146 said:

Hi all, currently looking at a purchase. I see 981S values holding firm in the OPC network and some tell me the 718 is a better car although the 981 sounds better. Which one would be more fun and easier to live with (and use as a DD) ? In terms of performance it seems they are fairly similar and as I've test driven both can say I'm am still split between the two. I guess what I am asking is, in pure unemotional cash terms which offers better "£ bang per buck" ?

I'm not overly concerned about turbos vs NA as am not a track driver and I get that both will depreciate. I guess I would expect a "lightly used" 981 to be the cheaper ownership proposition as it is not new. Except the OPC used market is clearly very controlled and prices are very firm. I also see the residuals on the latest 781 finance deals seem very high also (I am not looking for at PCP). I am not precious about speccing particular options on a new one either - as long as the basics are there.

Any thoughts ?

Hi

Before I got bored of doing it and lost interest I did a bit of car videoing blah blah. This video is a comparison of my 981S and a 718 that my OPC lent me. It's also an S so not quite what you're considering but it might help. I didn't do what most 981 owners seem to have done and take a pre conceived idea of the sound etc into the car with me. Hope it helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozCSVhW4W5U&t=...

I still have my 981S.

[Jimmckay67]

_Leg_ said:

Hi

Before I got bored of doing it and lost interest I did a bit of car videoing blah blah. This video is a comparison of my 981S and a 718 that my OPC lent me. It's also an S so not quite what you're considering but it might help. I didn't do what most 981 owners seem to have done and take a pre conceived idea of the sound etc into the car with me. Hope it helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozCSVhW4W5U&t=...

I still have my 981S.

Thanks for that.
A good balanced review and as you say sounds pretty decent to me.
Certainly not something that would deter me from buying it.
Yours looked pretty nice also.

[_Leg_]

Jimmckay67 said:

_Leg_ said:

Hi

Before I got bored of doing it and lost interest I did a bit of car videoing blah blah. This video is a comparison of my 981S and a 718 that my OPC lent me. It's also an S so not quite what you're considering but it might help. I didn't do what most 981 owners seem to have done and take a pre conceived idea of the sound etc into the car with me. Hope it helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozCSVhW4W5U&t=...

I still have my 981S.

Thanks for that.
A good balanced review and as you say sounds pretty decent to me.
Certainly not something that would deter me from buying it.
Yours looked pretty nice also.

I have a stable full of cars from vintage to modern supercars but, pound for pound, I think my 981S is an absolute belter. Just been round Wales with some mates in it. Superb car.

Just had the wheels refurbed and some vinyl added.

[Pinball]

tcs0tm said:

I drove both and went with the 718 actually got an S but the engine seems a bit more free revving in the base. Not sure if it’s in my head but I feel like the exhaust note has actually changed over time, just crossed 4,000 miles and it feels special to me every time I get in it. Always best to take reviews and opinions of others with a pinch of salt and take them out yourself.

I test drove both models together, too. I noticed when listening to the exhausts from outside the cars that the base car sounded smoother and a bit more sonorous over the s. It’s something despite all the criticism over the 718 exhaust sound that seems to have escaped the majority of reviews.

[bcr5784]

Only you can decide if the superior steering, handling and torque of the 718 is more important to you than the (to many) nicer noise and lack of lag of the 981. But regardless of personal preference, I think the market will favour the 981 and residuals and therefore cost of ownership of the 981 is likely to be lower.