“How can YOU afford THAT”??
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Sad indeed - I mentioned this elsewhere on PH a few years ago but a colleague of mine had a five year old Maserati Grantourismo which he drove to work everyday, after a few weeks he had one of the managers on his back telling him not to park it outside the building as it upset a few people in the office who's window looked out onto the car park. A bit of argey bargey ensued for a while but he stuck to his guns, pointing out that it was nobody's business what car he drove (it was his only car) and that the people complaining all had brand new company Mercs.
OP - congratulations, enjoy your Cayman to the full
OP - congratulations, enjoy your Cayman to the full
KPB1973 said:
Sadly, because of our natural 'British reserve' we often have this small-minded tendency to see displays of 'wealth' as being somewhat vulgar.
It's very small-minded and peculiar, but not always down to jealousy, per se.
OP - people will quickly get over their negativity towards your choice and worry about better things in their lives. Plus, if you're the humble person you seem to be, they'll quickly understand your motives for buying the car and most will be pleased for you.
Likewise you'll soon learn not to care about other people's opinion because you'll be too busy enjoying your Porker (which is lovely, btw - congrats!).
Thank you. I don’t mind sharing the fact that I never envisaged a time where I would be driving a new Porsche; I’m ridiculously excited at the prospect and even now, I worry that something will go wrong before I collect it next Thursday and my dream will be dashed. It’s just the way my mind works. My inner Chimp, if you like. It's very small-minded and peculiar, but not always down to jealousy, per se.
OP - people will quickly get over their negativity towards your choice and worry about better things in their lives. Plus, if you're the humble person you seem to be, they'll quickly understand your motives for buying the car and most will be pleased for you.
Likewise you'll soon learn not to care about other people's opinion because you'll be too busy enjoying your Porker (which is lovely, btw - congrats!).
It will require sacrifices in other areas of my life, but my primary consideration is the monthly payment, and this new Cayman is coming in at less than the cost of the used Boxster I was originally pursuing.
I am literally not sleeping with excitement. And that’s as it should be. How many times in one life do you get to buy a new Porsche for the first time?
It’s really nice to share this stuff with people who understand.
Looks lovely in blue that.
I'm 26 and I get the same from work colleagues, though it's not too bad. People who know me talk to me about it, I just ignore the how can you afford that comments and tell them they should have got a job in IT.
I'm picking up mine on the 1st, I suspect we're both as excited! Here she is waiting:
I'm 26 and I get the same from work colleagues, though it's not too bad. People who know me talk to me about it, I just ignore the how can you afford that comments and tell them they should have got a job in IT.
I'm picking up mine on the 1st, I suspect we're both as excited! Here she is waiting:
Reminds me of the time I had just bought a 4 year old 944S2 with me having just turned 30 (yes going back a while now!) - it was my daily drive for 8 years, so would transport me to my audit clients. Had plenty of clients suggest their fees were too high as a result of seeing my car in the carpark despite it costing about the same as a well spec'd new Mondeo.
Si-3PO said:
I don’t know about that, I’m one to downplay things and possibly cover up things to friends of mine that are less fortunate than me.
Somebody finding out you have a new Porsche and being a di*k about it is one thing but I think the bigger di*k is the one that goes around telling people who aren’t in a position to buy a nice car about their new Porsche before they’ve even taken delivery!
People gossip in an office don't they. It's just a case of telling someone you're on good terms with that you'd bought a new car and are excited about delivery, someone overhearing that and then before you know it people you barely know asking about your new Porsche, and they make sure to say it loud so that everyone in earshot hears. Somebody finding out you have a new Porsche and being a di*k about it is one thing but I think the bigger di*k is the one that goes around telling people who aren’t in a position to buy a nice car about their new Porsche before they’ve even taken delivery!
Start a counter rumour about something you saw at the Christmas party.
The only friends I regularly talk to about my past and present Porsches are Porsche owning friends who I met after getting my first one (met them via Porsche forums, PCGB and track days). They have become very good friends. There is a range of wealth between the group (from average earners to very high earners) yet wealth never gets discussed because we're only interested in chewing the fat about driving Porsches. When we get together in the hotel bar after a track day I think Joe Public wouldn't have a clue that we're a bunch of Porsche owning enthusiasts because our look wouldn't conform to the Porsche owner stereotype that he would have in his mind. The crap Porsche T-shirts some of us wear might give us away though! 
Other friends are friends because we have other common interests (e.g. sports). They have no interest in owning a Porsche, so the one I own never comes up in discussion and therefore I've seen no ill feelings towards it/me. I could see that happening on facebook and the like but like others, I shun that sort of social media because I see too much nastiness going on with it.
Other friends are friends because we have other common interests (e.g. sports). They have no interest in owning a Porsche, so the one I own never comes up in discussion and therefore I've seen no ill feelings towards it/me. I could see that happening on facebook and the like but like others, I shun that sort of social media because I see too much nastiness going on with it.
CaineIsCarter said:
I’m astonished at the response from colleagues and friends. Nobody has said anything complimentary; it’s all a variation on the same theme.
Like it’s anybody’s business...
Well, clearly you have purchased a car, which is quite unexpected from your colleagues/friends paygrade, so they are naturally suprized or bitter. Congratulations for the car, hope you enjoy it, but if you have so many reactions like these, remember, you have made a purchase that most of your colleagues/peers can not actually afford. (everyone's financial business each to their own, private work, family, inheritance or even lottery!)Like it’s anybody’s business...
I bet if you were working at some other occupation (wealth management, or hedge fund?), your colleagues might have made fun of you after seeing 718 outside. So that's human nature + relativity for you
Godlysmasko said:
It just baffles me that people can be so bitter about other people’s success/purchases to the point of being rude about it! It’s a tricky topic, though, and nice cars are something that seems to grind on a lot of people’s gears. Some people are genuinely interested, some will be bitter. Tread carefully 
very few people are genuine car enthusiasts. you should try owning a Ferrari if you want to attract hate. and mine is a relatively subtle one in grey. I would never pitch up in work in it either, and there are plenty of people in my office on very substantial incomes. cars are an anathema to many people in this country.CaineIsCarter said:
I am literally not sleeping with excitement. And that’s as it should be.
Brilliant comment. This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The keyring with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
Edited by KPB1973 on Friday 23 February 16:03
Congratulations if you can buy one. There is a lot of envy out there. If you drive a crap car, people will be like oh. I have been privileged to drive and own a few nice cars but when I drove a Honda Civic Black Edition, the drop in their faces was a sight. I am now considering a GT car but wonder if it is worth it with the envy in the world.
But... If you worked hard for it, enjoy it. The only thing is......it attracts a lot of attention -good and bad so I am quite weary when I drive mine. Nevertheless, enjoy as it is there to be enjoyed!
I am more surprised with our friends across the pond in the USA where most people in their 20s are driving a 981/GTS. Good on them and take advantage of the cheap petrol prices
But... If you worked hard for it, enjoy it. The only thing is......it attracts a lot of attention -good and bad so I am quite weary when I drive mine. Nevertheless, enjoy as it is there to be enjoyed!
I am more surprised with our friends across the pond in the USA where most people in their 20s are driving a 981/GTS. Good on them and take advantage of the cheap petrol prices
boxsey said:
The only friends I regularly talk to about my past and present Porsches are Porsche owning friends who I met after getting my first one (met them via Porsche forums, PCGB and track days). They have become very good friends. There is a range of wealth between the group (from average earners to very high earners) yet wealth never gets discussed because we're only interested in chewing the fat about driving Porsches.
That's quite true, and was much more common before 2009, when especially air-cooled market was not over-saturated yet. Any petrolhead with an aircooled+flat6 interest, was easily affording one when they were dead cheap. The talk was all about driving, and mechanical geekery usually, the badge "porsche" was not a big thing. Excellent colour choices everyone! Black, silver and great are so dull so nice to see blue and red!
Also f
k what other people say. If you can afford it, do it! Don't listen to the tphaters and envious tts who should be happy for you that you've found something you can enjoy and can afford.
Also f
k what other people say. If you can afford it, do it! Don't listen to the tphaters and envious tts who should be happy for you that you've found something you can enjoy and can afford.KPB1973 said:
Brilliant comment.
This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
Love this! This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
I told only a few close friends and family when I ordered my 718 but never told any work colleagues for the very reason this thread is about. Whilst I don't really care what they think I would rather not be judged or tagged a flash bd, which is sadly what would happen. I don't drive to work so it has never come up. If it did, bks to them.
I used to joke with my late Dad that I would buy a Porsche with my inheritance and after seeing his face when he saw my new Scirocco (No comparison I know) a few years back, I know he would have been grinning ear to ear if he had seen my Cayman. That and the 300 horses directly behind me makes me smile and that's what it's about.
Enjoy your car no matter what you drive and stuff want anyone thinks.
d, which is sadly what would happen. I don't drive to work so it has never come up. If it did, bks to them.I used to joke with my late Dad that I would buy a Porsche with my inheritance and after seeing his face when he saw my new Scirocco (No comparison I know) a few years back, I know he would have been grinning ear to ear if he had seen my Cayman. That and the 300 horses directly behind me makes me smile and that's what it's about.
Enjoy your car no matter what you drive and stuff want anyone thinks.
congratulations on your new car. enjoy!
i get alot of attention driving my spyder , but 99pc is all good. waves , nods and thumbs up.
is not a daily and only drive it at the weekend.
joe soap in the street cant tell what a porsche costs... i had a guy ask me about my car and he thought it had cost me £150,000.
i dont go to football or play golf , and only go out every 6 weeks with mates . i spend my money on a car . my choice .
the feeling the car gives is worth it!
i get alot of attention driving my spyder , but 99pc is all good. waves , nods and thumbs up.
is not a daily and only drive it at the weekend.
joe soap in the street cant tell what a porsche costs... i had a guy ask me about my car and he thought it had cost me £150,000.
i dont go to football or play golf , and only go out every 6 weeks with mates . i spend my money on a car . my choice .
the feeling the car gives is worth it!
davidc1 said:
congratulations on your new car. enjoy!
i get alot of attention driving my spyder , but 99pc is all good. waves , nods and thumbs up.
is not a daily and only drive it at the weekend.
joe soap in the street cant tell what a porsche costs... i had a guy ask me about my car and he thought it had cost me £150,000.
i dont go to football or play golf , and only go out every 6 weeks with mates . i spend my money on a car . my choice .
the feeling the car gives is worth it!
Exactly! When people say they can't afford it it's not because they can't, it's because they want two weeks abroad every year and piss £100 a weekend up the wall, week in, week out. Not usually anyway!i get alot of attention driving my spyder , but 99pc is all good. waves , nods and thumbs up.
is not a daily and only drive it at the weekend.
joe soap in the street cant tell what a porsche costs... i had a guy ask me about my car and he thought it had cost me £150,000.
i dont go to football or play golf , and only go out every 6 weeks with mates . i spend my money on a car . my choice .
the feeling the car gives is worth it!
v8ksn said:
KPB1973 said:
Brilliant comment.
This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
Love this! This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
- at times I think I may ditch PH due to various things.Then I read a post like this and remember what it's all about
KPB1973 said:
Brilliant comment.
This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
Fantastic post, man. Thank you. This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.
I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.
It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.
Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.
Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.
In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.
For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).
So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.
You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.
Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
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