Does driving your car on trackdays affect its value?
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greenamex2 said:
Out of interest, what do people think -
Does driving your car on trackdays affect its value?
I am assuming that you would be spectacularly honest when selling it...or your name/number plate came up in a google!
Also ignoring potential bodywork damage or modifications.
As most cars are part exed you have no idea what you are buying these days , so no it makes no odds.Does driving your car on trackdays affect its value?
I am assuming that you would be spectacularly honest when selling it...or your name/number plate came up in a google!
Also ignoring potential bodywork damage or modifications.
I know many track rat cars which go back to OPC's and sold on at the same prices.
I looked at a GT4 a few months back at an OPC they did not change the front tyres !!!! one could tell it was a past track rat.
private sale cars on 4 owners which say no track days, how does any one know what the 1st owner did ?
It's a mind field buying OPC cars imo as you never get to chat with the owner and only see cars after prep.
Don't think so, all long as it is properly maintenance and looked after - full + complete service history. All consumables kept up to date.
Of course if you stack it or any kind of insurance /crash check flags it based on chassis number. Or irreversible modifications - then you can expect a penalty
Of course if you stack it or any kind of insurance /crash check flags it based on chassis number. Or irreversible modifications - then you can expect a penalty
Edited by TDT on Friday 18th May 14:30
Depending on the model and configuration a car is more likely to have been tracked than others.
If you are looking at a lime green GT model with buckets and roll cage, you likely want to take it to a track sometimes.
And the owner(s) before would have made the same.
On the other hand a dark blue C2 with tan leather, PDK, (automated) cruise control and cooling seats was specced to be cruiser and the former owner probably hasn't tracked it. And if you are looking at such a car, it will probably not be looking for a track weapon either.
Of course there are people nannying their GT3 RS and there are people ragging every inch of their C2 with ruched leather while having a cool back thanks to the ventilated seats (I know ventilated seats don't come with ruched leather
) but it's less likely.
But to answer your question: As long as the car is straight, I don't think using it the way Porsche developed it devalues the car.
That said: Apparently 1km on the Nürburgring equals to 18km under normal driving circumstances
If you are looking at a lime green GT model with buckets and roll cage, you likely want to take it to a track sometimes.
And the owner(s) before would have made the same.
On the other hand a dark blue C2 with tan leather, PDK, (automated) cruise control and cooling seats was specced to be cruiser and the former owner probably hasn't tracked it. And if you are looking at such a car, it will probably not be looking for a track weapon either.
Of course there are people nannying their GT3 RS and there are people ragging every inch of their C2 with ruched leather while having a cool back thanks to the ventilated seats (I know ventilated seats don't come with ruched leather
) but it's less likely.But to answer your question: As long as the car is straight, I don't think using it the way Porsche developed it devalues the car.
That said: Apparently 1km on the Nürburgring equals to 18km under normal driving circumstances
hunter 66 said:
Not really , ragged my old 64RS on slicks , Spa , Ring , brushed the occasional barrier ........ now many years later it is possibly a cherished Garage queen worth a lot ...
This proves my point tough. You're 964 RS has been tracked hard at one point in its life and it hasn't affected its value too much.BTW what a lovely car you have owned!!
hunter 66 said:
Not really , ragged my old 64RS on slicks , Spa , Ring , brushed the occasional barrier ........ now many years later it is possibly a cherished Garage queen worth a lot ...
Different buyers these days. A lot less skid marks inside and outside of the car but a lot more top trumping..All a bit dissapointing really.
Edited by Steve Rance on Friday 18th May 16:02
Porsche911R said:
It's a mind field buying OPC cars imo as you never get to chat with the owner and only see cars after prep.
Not always true. I bought an OPC used car and spoke with the previous owner. The OPC are usually reluctant to give you the information but ask to see the V5 and then take a picture/make a note of the previous owner. I then traced the person down through PCGB forums and spoke to them at length about the car.The big issue with OPC used is getting hold of the history. I have tried for 12 months to get the info from OPC Swindon and just get the run-around every time I speak to them. The previous owner has even spoken to them personally and given them permission to release all the history.
Porsche911R said:
It's a mind field buying OPC cars imo as you never get to chat with the owner and only see cars after prep.
Not always true. I bought an OPC used car and spoke with the previous owner. The OPC are usually reluctant to give you the information but ask to see the V5 and then take a picture/make a note of the previous owner. I then traced the person down through PCGB forums and spoke to them at length about the car.The big issue with OPC used is getting hold of the history. I have tried for 12 months to get the info from OPC Swindon and just get the run-around every time I speak to them. The previous owner has even spoken to them personally and given them permission to release all the history.
moonigan said:
Not always true. I bought an OPC used car and spoke with the previous owner. The OPC are usually reluctant to give you the information but ask to see the V5 and then take a picture/make a note of the previous owner. I then traced the person down through PCGB forums and spoke to them at length about the car.
The big issue with OPC used is getting hold of the history. I have tried for 12 months to get the info from OPC Swindon and just get the run-around every time I speak to them. The previous owner has even spoken to them personally and given them permission to release all the history.
the new V5 now don't show the last owner in full.The big issue with OPC used is getting hold of the history. I have tried for 12 months to get the info from OPC Swindon and just get the run-around every time I speak to them. The previous owner has even spoken to them personally and given them permission to release all the history.
If it is a GT car then I expect all to have been tracked and frankly it makes no difference to me. Most GT cars can take amateur track abuse perfectly well. Just buy on condition and service history.
I'd rather buy an over maintained track slag than a sparsely maintained garage queen. In my experience the more track biased an owner is, the more over serviced the car is.
Of course, with greater track use there is also the greater risk of damage - but that should be checked via an inspection.
I'd rather buy an over maintained track slag than a sparsely maintained garage queen. In my experience the more track biased an owner is, the more over serviced the car is.
Of course, with greater track use there is also the greater risk of damage - but that should be checked via an inspection.
LaSource said:
If it is a GT car then I expect all to have been tracked and frankly it makes no difference to me. Most GT cars can take amateur track abuse perfectly well. Just buy on condition and service history.
I'd rather buy an over maintained track slag than a sparsely maintained garage queen. In my experience the more track biased an owner is, the more over serviced the car is.
Of course, with greater track use there is also the greater risk of damage - but that should be checked via an inspection.
Too sensible a view..I'd rather buy an over maintained track slag than a sparsely maintained garage queen. In my experience the more track biased an owner is, the more over serviced the car is.
Of course, with greater track use there is also the greater risk of damage - but that should be checked via an inspection.
A big thing for me when buying a Porsche is getting a Rev Range Check print-out from the seller (OPC). That along with the usual checks for damage, wear and tear, etc tells a story.
My GT3 was tracked and I made a point of recording all track miles covered and any other observations I had. This was made available to any potential purchasers. The fact it was tracked did not affect the sale price.
Cheers.
My GT3 was tracked and I made a point of recording all track miles covered and any other observations I had. This was made available to any potential purchasers. The fact it was tracked did not affect the sale price.
Cheers.
PDKSport said:
A big thing for me when buying a Porsche is getting a Rev Range Check print-out from the seller (OPC). That along with the usual checks for damage, wear and tear, etc tells a story.
My GT3 was tracked and I made a point of recording all track miles covered and any other observations I had. This was made available to any potential purchasers. The fact it was tracked did not affect the sale price.
Cheers.
I agree with this. The 987.1 didnt have a rev limiter so always worth checking before purchase as it will come up when you sell it. 987.2 has the limiter so not so much of a problem. I wouldn't buy any Porsche that had been ragged and showed over revving to a great extent. All vendors of Porches should be able to provide the rev range check read-out and if it a private sale then the owner should not usually refuse a full OPC check. If not over-revved then probably no affect on value.My GT3 was tracked and I made a point of recording all track miles covered and any other observations I had. This was made available to any potential purchasers. The fact it was tracked did not affect the sale price.
Cheers.
Johnniem said:
I agree with this. The 987.1 didnt have a rev limiter so always worth checking before purchase as it will come up when you sell it. 987.2 has the limiter so not so much of a problem. I wouldn't buy any Porsche that had been ragged and showed over revving to a great extent. All vendors of Porches should be able to provide the rev range check read-out and if it a private sale then the owner should not usually refuse a full OPC check. If not over-revved then probably no affect on value.
Why do you say there is no rev limiter on the 987.1? I have driven a few and they have all had a rev limiter Sir_chimpalot said:
Johnniem said:
I agree with this. The 987.1 didnt have a rev limiter so always worth checking before purchase as it will come up when you sell it. 987.2 has the limiter so not so much of a problem. I wouldn't buy any Porsche that had been ragged and showed over revving to a great extent. All vendors of Porches should be able to provide the rev range check read-out and if it a private sale then the owner should not usually refuse a full OPC check. If not over-revved then probably no affect on value.
Why do you say there is no rev limiter on the 987.1? I have driven a few and they have all had a rev limiter Gassing Station | Boxster/Cayman | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff