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I think we've all learnt something from this post ... respect to the OP for putting it up here for comment ... when a car "goes" in standing water you need very quick hands to have a chance of catching it .. and when you aren't expecting it ???
The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned out well !
The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned out well !
ChrisW. said:
I think we've all learnt something from this post ... respect to the OP for putting it up here for comment ... when a car "goes" in standing water you need very quick hands to have a chance of catching it .. and when you aren't expecting it ???
The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned out well !
Now then, wasn't there a video of you at a very wet Donny doing some hay cutting Chris The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned out well !
I may as well keep this one going if I ever get the car back. Bit of a mix up by my useless insurance company now means that the car is not where they said it was but has been moved already. I had organised a sympathetic truck guy to go get it. This means more dragging on and off truck/s with less sympathy as there is only 1 wheel on the back. I wince just thinking about what damage that's doing. Anyone here with any actual knowledge of these cars can you please tell me what's taking this abuse, is it just so form of metal frame or could it be mechanical bits and pieces?
ChrisW. said:
I think we've all learnt something from this post ... respect to the OP for putting it up here for comment ... when a car "goes" in standing water you need very quick hands to have a chance of catching it .. and when you aren't expecting it ???
The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned
out well !
The moral to this story is mid engined cars can notoriously snappy in wet conditions. Wider rear tyres don't don't dissipate the water like narrower tyres. If the car hits standing water and you back the throttle, the front has already lightened, know the back has lightened, lost grip causing a spiral skid which is pretty impossible to catch. On a straight piece of road it's best to try and keep your steering straight and maintain a steady throttle which should push you through the puddle. The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned
out well !
Yes going slower would probably helped, but I guess in hindsight maybe. But you don't always see puddles until the last moment.
Good luck Op. Happens to the best of us!!
Edited by M4CK 1 on Friday 25th January 23:31
M4CK 1 said:
ChrisW. said:
I think we've all learnt something from this post ... respect to the OP for putting it up here for comment ... when a car "goes" in standing water you need very quick hands to have a chance of catching it .. and when you aren't expecting it ???
The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned
out well !
The moral to this story is mid engined cars can notoriously snappy in wet conditions. Wider rear tyres don't don't dissipate the water like narrower tyres. If the car hits standing water and you back the throttle, the front has already lightened, know the back has lightened, lost grip causing a spiral skid which is pretty impossible to catch. On a straight piece of road it's best to try and keep your steering straight and maintain a steady throttle which should push you through the puddle. The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned
out well !
Yes going slower would probably helped, but I guess in hindsight maybe. But you don't always see puddles until the last moment.
Good luck Op. Happens to the best of us!!
With all the weight up the back the front wheels have difficulty cutting through the water to find road and can tend to float.
If they do, they can stop rotating or at least roate at a much lower speed than the road theyre passing over
i.e. theyre skidding
in order to steer you need to get the tyres travelling at the same speed as the road
With FWD you can use the right pedal, get the tyres up to speed so youve got contact with the road again and can pull your way through
With RWD youve no chance (well not much)
saaby93 said:
M4CK 1 said:
ChrisW. said:
I think we've all learnt something from this post ... respect to the OP for putting it up here for comment ... when a car "goes" in standing water you need very quick hands to have a chance of catching it .. and when you aren't expecting it ???
The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned
out well !
The moral to this story is mid engined cars can notoriously snappy in wet conditions. Wider rear tyres don't don't dissipate the water like narrower tyres. If the car hits standing water and you back the throttle, the front has already lightened, know the back has lightened, lost grip causing a spiral skid which is pretty impossible to catch. On a straight piece of road it's best to try and keep your steering straight and maintain a steady throttle which should push you through the puddle. The easiest solution is just to slow down ... tempered by the temperature and how much tread your tyres have .... very glad it all turned
out well !
Yes going slower would probably helped, but I guess in hindsight maybe. But you don't always see puddles until the last moment.
Good luck Op. Happens to the best of us!!
With all the weight up the back the front wheels have difficulty cutting through the water to find road and can tend to float.
If they do, they can stop rotating or at least roate at a much lower speed than the road theyre passing over
i.e. theyre skidding
in order to steer you need to get the tyres travelling at the same speed as the road
With FWD you can use the right pedal, get the tyres up to speed so youve got contact with the road again and can pull your way through
With RWD youve no chance (well not much)
In a straight line the front will go light, which is when your instinct will tell you to back off, what I was saying was to not to back off, maintain your throttle otherwise the back tyres will under rotate and the car will rotate very quickly. Also if your rotating quickly let the wheel spin in your hands.
All fine in theory but in practice it happens really quickly and you're more or less a passenger.
Only progress so far is fiddling with the Battery and chargers. It might need a new battery as it was dead when I got it back. But when I saw it a few weeks earlier it was fine. So a few days on the charger might see it recover. It fried the fuse on my modern charger twice. The old school charger was showing a current draw of 5 amps with the battery connected to the car.
M4CK 1 said:
The moral to this story is mid engined cars can notoriously snappy in wet conditions. Wider rear tyres don't don't dissipate the water like narrower tyres. If the car hits standing water and you back the throttle, the front has already lightened, know the back has lightened, lost grip causing a spiral skid which is pretty impossible to catch. On a straight piece of road it's best to try and keep your steering straight and maintain a steady throttle which should push you through the puddle.
Yes going slower would probably helped, but I guess in hindsight maybe. But you don't always see puddles until the last moment.
Good luck Op. Happens to the best of us!!
Moral of the story is slow down in heavy rain or where there is standing water. Easier said than done though, especially if other people are not slowing down. Takes self control to pull into the slow lane and let them go by. Even more difficult in a fast/sports car. But the faster the car generally the wider the tyres and the more risk of aquaplanning. Yes going slower would probably helped, but I guess in hindsight maybe. But you don't always see puddles until the last moment.
Good luck Op. Happens to the best of us!!
Edited by M4CK 1 on Friday 25th January 23:31
Esceptico said:
Moral of the story is slow down in heavy rain or where there is standing water.
No that wont workVideos posted earlier show drivers lifting off and creating a spin
How far do you slow down? If youre going no quicker than anyone else how do you know
Best thing not to take it out? - leave it parked up neatly polished on the patio
saaby93 said:
Esceptico said:
Moral of the story is slow down in heavy rain or where there is standing water.
No that wont workVideos posted earlier show drivers lifting off and creating a spin
How far do you slow down? If youre going no quicker than anyone else how do you know
Best thing not to take it out? - leave it parked up neatly polished on the patio
Using other people as a guide is not sensible. Being able to say "I wasn't going any faster than them" doesn't help much if you disappear into the scenery!
As per my post, if you have wide tyres you should be going quite a bit slower. Fat tyres just can't get rid of the water quickly enough.
When I lived in Switzerland there were occasional, really heavy storms. Sometimes I would park up for 10 to 15 minutes to let it pass. Better than crashing.
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