The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

[Rojibo]

Be interesting to see what happens, just a shame on a 12 day old car, you'd think it would be a defective component, but as you've all said, too many unknowns. As has already been said looks like the top hat(? not a suspension expert) rather than the mount point itself, so perhaps an easier/cheaper fix?

It would be fairly hard to tell I think if Porsche had re-enforced the front mount points by making the metal thicker, just looking by eye, wouldn't it?

[TDT]

Rojibo said:

Be interesting to see what happens, just a shame on a 12 day old car, you'd think it would be a defective component, but as you've all said, too many unknowns. As has already been said looks like the top hat(? not a suspension expert) rather than the mount point itself, so perhaps an easier/cheaper fix?

It would be fairly hard to tell I think if Porsche had re-enforced the front mount points by making the metal thicker, just looking by eye, wouldn't it?

Based upon the damage - this isn't defective part or just a failure.. something has happened to cause that... and maybe info is missing or has been lost in translation.
Regarding the repair.... it depends on what caused the incident... top hat itself might be cheap, but if the car was in an accident this could just a damaged part as a result of the accident. It will take quite an impact and/or speed to cause that level of damage... so i'd be concerned that both sides could be affected with components and subframe elements bent... worse.. if any shock has made it into the actual chassis... they will no doubt need to measure the chassis on jig.. Porsche failure tolerance is very tight and if the chassis is at all bent (by 2mm or more i think)... its a new chassis... because of the multi-material construction, which cannot be repaired.... I've written about this before.

[Twinfan]

Rennlist thread is saying the chassis is bent so it's a write off.

Something doesn't add up, I think there's some info missing.

[EarlX99]

Builder Darren said:

Keep the spyder pictures 987, 981 & 718, coming as got a long wait till November/ December plz

My Spyder is expected at the dealer in the second week of November. Maybe yours will be about the same time?

[Oggy_DJ]

I’m not worrying as yet... I would suspect caused by an incident not being made public or a faulty component??

Had my Spyder since last October and done 2,400 B road miles including lots of high speed compressions and crests. Anyway...thanks for reporting on this one, time will tell if it really is a fault or an isolated case.

[Builder Darren]

I hope so

[GTSJOE]

I’ve been luckily enough to bag an allocation for a 718 Spyder for October build, November delivery. There appears to be a few allocation available for GT4 & Spyder, Porsche are finishing the run of manual cars ahead of PDK launch Winter 2020.
Are there any options that are must have for the Spyder as haven’t specced a 718 before.
Thanks

[Porsche911R]

GTSJOE said:

I’ve been luckily enough to bag an allocation for a 718 Spyder for October build, November delivery. There appears to be a few allocation available for GT4 & Spyder, Porsche are finishing the run of manual cars ahead of PDK launch Winter 2020.
Are there any options that are must have for the Spyder as haven’t specced a 718 before.
Thanks

heated buckets, o wait they have removed that option !!!

Spec it how you want it, it's a new car that's the thrill of buying new you get to spec it for you :-)

[Builder Darren]

My thoughts entirely, not bothering with carbon and buckets, if no one to buy when i come to sell ill keep it

[Kam 1]

Porsche911R said:

GTSJOE said:

I’ve been luckily enough to bag an allocation for a 718 Spyder for October build, November delivery. There appears to be a few allocation available for GT4 & Spyder, Porsche are finishing the run of manual cars ahead of PDK launch Winter 2020.
Are there any options that are must have for the Spyder as haven’t specced a 718 before.
Thanks

heated buckets, o wait they have removed that option !!!

Spec it how you want it, it's a new car that's the thrill of buying new you get to spec it for you :-)

Exactly like Porsche911R says - spec it for you, not someone else. This is the best advice.. Some love buckets, some hate buckets, some love ceramics, some hate ceramics, some want Bose/Burmester, some want it clean and lighter. And so on and so forth. Everyone’s got an argument for each way, so go with what you feel is right it’ll be perfect.

For me reverse parking camera has been very handy.. my 981 was back to the old days with nothing. Used to hate tight spots!

It’s a stunning little beauty of a car,

congratulations pal

Edited by Kam 1 on Friday 24th July 16:35

[mikey k]

GTSJOE said:

I’ve been luckily enough to bag an allocation for a 718 Spyder for October build, November delivery. There appears to be a few allocation available for GT4 & Spyder, Porsche are finishing the run of manual cars ahead of PDK launch Winter 2020.
Are there any options that are must have for the Spyder as haven’t specced a 718 before.
Thanks

Care to share who has allocations spare?
I'm still looking

[bigmowley]

So finally got a good run out in the Spyder. Left Leamington Spa at 9.00 Sunday morning and drove to Nürburg. Great run, data:


Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.

Dirty car.

So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it

[manand38]

bigmowley said:

So finally got a good run out in the Spyder. Left Leamington Spa at 9.00 Sunday morning and drove to Nürburg. Great run, data:


Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.

Dirty car.

So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it

You did that in one day + 20 laps?

[bigmowley]

Yup, dead easy, I love driving. 505 road miles plus 260 track miles
Plus 500 on Sunday.

[manand38]

bigmowley said:

Yup, dead easy, I love driving. 505 road miles plus 260 track miles
Plus 500 on Sunday.

Then sir, I salute
Would not be able to pull that off. Been to the Ring many times, but it really takes it out of me, so need to stop for a few days.
Were the restaurants open?
Went Eurotunnel I suppose?

[SFO]

bigmowley said:

I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now.

Are the discs knackered?

[Porsche911R]

bigmowley said:

So finally got a good run out in the Spyder. Left Leamington Spa at 9.00 Sunday morning and drove to Nürburg. Great run, data:


Before I went I had the geometry done which was a bit of an eye opener. The front end is perfect. The back is appalling, the rear toe adjustment is maxed out even with the standard rear camber setting. We could only get 1.3 degrees -ve camber on the rear. This has to be a Porsche cock up.
Worse than any other GT product that I have owned.
Unsurprisingly on circuit the car was quite interesting to drive! I very nearly span it on cold tyres.
The front end is brilliant and the rear feels like it’s on casters. Once the tyres are up to temp, which takes a surprisingly long time, it’s fine but very oversteery, which I quite like but it’s definitely not a beginners car. I did 3 lap stints by which time the tyres were at the limit. Incidentally the TPM system does not have a circuit mode which is a PITA, and it must be the only GT car without it. Quite fast, 165mph on the Dottinger by the circuit entry and into the foxhole. Another surprise was the brakes, I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now. My GT4 ones were perfect and we spanked that round Spa all day without any grief at all. Poor show Porsche.
I did about 20 odd laps in all, with lots of cool down time.
I left the circuit at 3.00PM German time and got back to Leamington Spa at 10.30PM UK time. Top down the whole way. Brilliant. No back ache in the heated buckets.

Dirty car.

So what I learnt was that the Spyder is deffo not a pukka Porsche GT car, but it’s a brilliant sports car and best kept for just that
Love it

Great fun

1: endless pads and srf fluid
2: adjustable mono ball rear toe links.

So cheap to fix.

Heated folding buckets are amazing for long days in the car.

[bigmowley]

SFO said:

bigmowley said:

I have PCCB’s and they basically gave up the ghost after 3 laps with a rock hard pedal and no retardation. There is a lot of pad pick up on the discs now.

Are the discs knackered?

I bloody hope not! They are slowly cleaning up so prob ok, a bit of noise now but no judder. I looked at a new GT3RS that was there and his discs looked the same. I think there may have been a change in OE pad material recently?

[Kam 1]

Interesting...

395 and an aftermarket exhaust


https://youtu.be/U3JhQa_V8DA

[donutskidmark]

bigmowley said:

I bloody hope not! They are slowly cleaning up so prob ok, a bit of noise now but no judder. I looked at a new GT3RS that was there and his discs looked the same. I think there may have been a change in OE pad material recently?

Personally I think you should consider selling your Spyder and the Cayman R and investing in a 991.1 GT3RS - I don’t think you’d regret it !