The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!
Discussion
I'd be wary of having the mix of reds in the car. Personally I'd ditch the Bordeaux Red dials and stick with the standard black/grey plus change the seat belts to Guards Red. The stitching is Guards Red so you'd want to match that I think?
Re. tyres, summer tyres will be Michelin PS4Ss or Pirelli P-Zeros (random allocation at the factory).
Re. tyres, summer tyres will be Michelin PS4Ss or Pirelli P-Zeros (random allocation at the factory).
Edited by Twinfan on Saturday 6th March 11:39
mobil1 said:
Looks like a good spec. I have specced the camera as well as I believe it's really difficult to see out the back due to the "humps". Also, I believe that the rear assist where it goes from green, amber to red has changed and you don't get this anymore.I was also told the same thing about the pdk from the OPC. The car will be very rare especially if this is to be the only builds before Porsche bid au revoir to them. As such, I have ticked the pdk box for now but am in two minds. Apparently the manual is so highly geared that you will spend most of your time in second with the odd shift to third gear. Perhaps current owners can elaborate more on this and the park assist. Totally in agreement with you about the heated seat issue and the buckets. This is just my two pennies worth. My build is also June with a July delivery. Oh and congrats for getting a build slot!
I’d take delivery dates with a pinch of salt, my Spyder started build on the 20th of January and the build complete has been delayed several times and is now due to complete the 12th of March, 42 day delay on expected build completion. I’ve not been given a reason why.av185 said:
Sounds like your salesperson is fairly clueless if:
Firstly he/she reckons the PDK will be rarer than the manual. It will be the opposite as was the case with the 991.2. Only a handful of used manual 991.2 GT3s around compared to PDKs especislly good spec cars.
Secondly the GT3 manual is not highly geared. The gearing is perfect. Sounds like they may be confusing it with a 981 GT4 lol.
On the heated seat issue you don't really need heaters on the GT3 it is not a cab but is a fairly 'hot' car in the cabin anyway. Seems odd to spec comforts just to get the heaters when these seats detract from the whole ethos of the car not just because you sit much lower 'in' the buckets rather than 'on' the comforts. You will also get hammered on resale ££ but that may not bother you and each to their own.
I may have misunderstood but I thought we were discussing a cab namely 718 Spyder not a GT3.Firstly he/she reckons the PDK will be rarer than the manual. It will be the opposite as was the case with the 991.2. Only a handful of used manual 991.2 GT3s around compared to PDKs especislly good spec cars.
Secondly the GT3 manual is not highly geared. The gearing is perfect. Sounds like they may be confusing it with a 981 GT4 lol.
On the heated seat issue you don't really need heaters on the GT3 it is not a cab but is a fairly 'hot' car in the cabin anyway. Seems odd to spec comforts just to get the heaters when these seats detract from the whole ethos of the car not just because you sit much lower 'in' the buckets rather than 'on' the comforts. You will also get hammered on resale ££ but that may not bother you and each to their own.
mobil1 said:
av185 said:
Sounds like your salesperson is fairly clueless if:
Firstly he/she reckons the PDK will be rarer than the manual. It will be the opposite as was the case with the 991.2. Only a handful of used manual 991.2 GT3s around compared to PDKs especislly good spec cars.
Secondly the GT3 manual is not highly geared. The gearing is perfect. Sounds like they may be confusing it with a 981 GT4 lol.
On the heated seat issue you don't really need heaters on the GT3 it is not a cab but is a fairly 'hot' car in the cabin anyway. Seems odd to spec comforts just to get the heaters when these seats detract from the whole ethos of the car not just because you sit much lower 'in' the buckets rather than 'on' the comforts. You will also get hammered on resale ££ but that may not bother you and each to their own.
I may have misunderstood but I thought we were discussing a cab namely 718 Spyder not a GT3.Firstly he/she reckons the PDK will be rarer than the manual. It will be the opposite as was the case with the 991.2. Only a handful of used manual 991.2 GT3s around compared to PDKs especislly good spec cars.
Secondly the GT3 manual is not highly geared. The gearing is perfect. Sounds like they may be confusing it with a 981 GT4 lol.
On the heated seat issue you don't really need heaters on the GT3 it is not a cab but is a fairly 'hot' car in the cabin anyway. Seems odd to spec comforts just to get the heaters when these seats detract from the whole ethos of the car not just because you sit much lower 'in' the buckets rather than 'on' the comforts. You will also get hammered on resale ££ but that may not bother you and each to their own.
Yes the PDK will be rarer than the manual on the 718 Spyder and GT4. May be an idea to drive a manual 718 Spyder or GT4 if you get the chance (maybe at PEC?) whilst its the same gearbox as the 981 with fairly high ratios this is far less noticeable amd less of an issue in the 718 with its better engine.
Seat comments still apply but to a lesser extent than with the GT3.
mobil1 said:
Apparently the manual is so highly geared that you will spend most of your time in second with the odd shift to third gear. Perhaps current owners can elaborate more on this
This is true. But Porsche manuals have been long-geared for a very long time. For example, people complained about the gearing in the 997.2 GT3 when it was released and I believe top of 2nd in that car is very similar to the 718. That doesn't change the fact that it would be better with shorter gearing though.However, see the recent review of a PDK
Edited by Xfe on Saturday 6th March 17:22
Trying to finalise the spec on my Spyder is causing me a headache. It’s very PH to be fussing over interior trim but i just can’t get my head around it. I’m fixed on Carrara White paint and platinum wheels and standard brakes.
I’d prefer the yellow interior and matching yellow belts but concerned this would clash with the red brake calipers. So i then think ok i’ll go for the silver interior (saves £800) then add a bit of colour with red belts but do these then clash with the silver door pulls and look a bit odd? I like the idea of matching the red brakes to parts of the interior.
My current submitted spec is red trim, but it’s my least favourite option but it does offer a nice overall contrast.
And i really like coloured dials, I think they lift the interior but again i’d want them to match interior wise. Seems they split opinion and i agree they can be hard to read, which is why i though Bordeaux Red dials was a nice compromise as they are a bit darker.
Maybe i just go all in for silver interior and then just add Bordeaux Red dials.
Is there a record for the amount of time spent playing with interior trim on the configurator?
I’d prefer the yellow interior and matching yellow belts but concerned this would clash with the red brake calipers. So i then think ok i’ll go for the silver interior (saves £800) then add a bit of colour with red belts but do these then clash with the silver door pulls and look a bit odd? I like the idea of matching the red brakes to parts of the interior.
My current submitted spec is red trim, but it’s my least favourite option but it does offer a nice overall contrast.
And i really like coloured dials, I think they lift the interior but again i’d want them to match interior wise. Seems they split opinion and i agree they can be hard to read, which is why i though Bordeaux Red dials was a nice compromise as they are a bit darker.
Maybe i just go all in for silver interior and then just add Bordeaux Red dials.
Is there a record for the amount of time spent playing with interior trim on the configurator?
Edited by Jefferson Steelflex on Sunday 7th March 09:44
Bordeaux red won't match anything else, as I've said. I reckon they've been designed to match the Claasic Interior? You could do white dials but any coloured dial will highlight all the warning symbols when they're not lit which is why I stick with the standard black/grey.
If you choose red stitching you'll get red door pulls so I would definitely add red belts if that's the way you're going.
If you want yellow inside, go for black brake calipers?
If you choose red stitching you'll get red door pulls so I would definitely add red belts if that's the way you're going.
If you want yellow inside, go for black brake calipers?
Edited by Twinfan on Sunday 7th March 10:06
I don't like the red trims internally as a rule - not conducive to a relaxing driving experience for me (respect to alternative opinions, but that how I feel).
So if going white externally bring the white inside (exterior colour on interior dash), yellow stitching, white dials, black painted calipers. Turn all chrome to black (satin black wheels, Porsche logo).
Essentially "red delete" bar the tail-lights.
But just a personal opinion - I'm no interior designer.
So if going white externally bring the white inside (exterior colour on interior dash), yellow stitching, white dials, black painted calipers. Turn all chrome to black (satin black wheels, Porsche logo).
Essentially "red delete" bar the tail-lights.
But just a personal opinion - I'm no interior designer.
If you like yellow stitching but are concerned the yellow belts clash with red calipers why not have standard belts instead. I have red stitching on my GT3 and red belts but with yellow pccb calipers and its a good combo so if you had yellow stitching and belts it is similar in reverse and that would look fine imo.
If you had platinum stitching that would match the platinum door pulls and by having red belts this would tie in with the red calipers. Some find plat stitching with Carrara white slightly insipid but I've had it on a few Porsche GTs and always sold ok.
I would drop the coloured dials they are never that popular used anyway.
If you had platinum stitching that would match the platinum door pulls and by having red belts this would tie in with the red calipers. Some find plat stitching with Carrara white slightly insipid but I've had it on a few Porsche GTs and always sold ok.
I would drop the coloured dials they are never that popular used anyway.
I wouldn’t mix two different reds on the seat belts/ door pulls. Also re the dials. I have had coloured dials myself in the past but on the current boxster you only get two coloured dials as the third is a TFT screen which always remains black - when its off of course! This looks odd to me - but as always, personal choice.
Good advice, thanks all. Cant spec white dials on the Spyder otherwise that’s what i’d go for, but in the absence of anything else i’ll keep them black i think.
I think White with Yellow interior is a nice combo, haven’t seen any in that mix but do see a lot of Crayon cars with the Yellow so i think it could work.
I think White with Yellow interior is a nice combo, haven’t seen any in that mix but do see a lot of Crayon cars with the Yellow so i think it could work.
I think the off white/brown hue of crayon means it works incredibly well with yellow, personally I'm not so such about it with white - especially the cold tones of Carrara White Metallic. Not enough of a contrast maybe? It's all personal preference though of course 
My old 981 GTS was CWM with silver GTS pack/stitching. While a bit bland/neutral for some it's another person's classy and understated...
My old 981 GTS was CWM with silver GTS pack/stitching. While a bit bland/neutral for some it's another person's classy and understated...
Edited by Twinfan on Sunday 7th March 11:26
Jefferson Steelflex said:
Spent fully five hours last night on the configuration building my spec, obviously needed to get the Steering Committee to sign off on a few things, but here it is for critique:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PM8T1J65
I’ve got a month or so before it gets locked down. I flipped on colours, on the GT4 i had ordered, i’d have 100% gone for Yellow, but didn’t like that so much on the Spyder and Mrs S wasn’t keen. I’m very very tempted by Python Green, which would mean i’d change back to silver stitch etc. but for now Carrara White it is with a few red accents.
Heated seats was a must-have so that ruled out buckets, and i don’t like silver wheels. The free summer tyre option was interesting, i’ve ticked it for now but i’d like to know what brand of tyres you get.
OPC was telling me i needed to seriously consider PDK for rarity etc., but i want a manual.
I've just had a quick scan through your configuration and noticed the multi function wheel. Do you intend for this to remain Alcantara?http://www.porsche-code.com/PM8T1J65
I’ve got a month or so before it gets locked down. I flipped on colours, on the GT4 i had ordered, i’d have 100% gone for Yellow, but didn’t like that so much on the Spyder and Mrs S wasn’t keen. I’m very very tempted by Python Green, which would mean i’d change back to silver stitch etc. but for now Carrara White it is with a few red accents.
Heated seats was a must-have so that ruled out buckets, and i don’t like silver wheels. The free summer tyre option was interesting, i’ve ticked it for now but i’d like to know what brand of tyres you get.
OPC was telling me i needed to seriously consider PDK for rarity etc., but i want a manual.
I've gone full Leather with mine and yellow interior. http://www.porsche-code.com/PM8T1J65
Jefferson Steelflex said:
Trying to finalise the spec on my Spyder is causing me a headache. It’s very PH to be fussing over interior trim but i just can’t get my head around it. I’m fixed on Carrara White paint and platinum wheels and standard brakes.
I’d prefer the yellow interior and matching yellow belts but concerned this would clash with the red brake calipers. So i then think ok i’ll go for the silver interior (saves £800) then add a bit of colour with red belts but do these then clash with the silver door pulls and look a bit odd? I like the idea of matching the red brakes to parts of the interior.
My current submitted spec is red trim, but it’s my least favourite option but it does offer a nice overall contrast.
And i really like coloured dials, I think they lift the interior but again i’d want them to match interior wise. Seems they split opinion and i agree they can be hard to read, which is why i though Bordeaux Red dials was a nice compromise as they are a bit darker.
Maybe i just go all in for silver interior and then just add Bordeaux Red dials.
Is there a record for the amount of time spent playing with interior trim on the configurator?
If you like yellow interior and belts but are concerned clashing with red calipers why not just get the calipers painted, you then have the interior as you would like which needs to be a priority as that is where you will spend your time. I have yellow interior and belts and very happy with it.I’d prefer the yellow interior and matching yellow belts but concerned this would clash with the red brake calipers. So i then think ok i’ll go for the silver interior (saves £800) then add a bit of colour with red belts but do these then clash with the silver door pulls and look a bit odd? I like the idea of matching the red brakes to parts of the interior.
My current submitted spec is red trim, but it’s my least favourite option but it does offer a nice overall contrast.
And i really like coloured dials, I think they lift the interior but again i’d want them to match interior wise. Seems they split opinion and i agree they can be hard to read, which is why i though Bordeaux Red dials was a nice compromise as they are a bit darker.
Maybe i just go all in for silver interior and then just add Bordeaux Red dials.
Is there a record for the amount of time spent playing with interior trim on the configurator?
Edited by Jefferson Steelflex on Sunday 7th March 09:44
Geoff39GL said:
Jefferson Steelflex said:
Trying to finalise the spec on my Spyder is causing me a headache. It’s very PH to be fussing over interior trim but i just can’t get my head around it. I’m fixed on Carrara White paint and platinum wheels and standard brakes.
I’d prefer the yellow interior and matching yellow belts but concerned this would clash with the red brake calipers. So i then think ok i’ll go for the silver interior (saves £800) then add a bit of colour with red belts but do these then clash with the silver door pulls and look a bit odd? I like the idea of matching the red brakes to parts of the interior.
My current submitted spec is red trim, but it’s my least favourite option but it does offer a nice overall contrast.
And i really like coloured dials, I think they lift the interior but again i’d want them to match interior wise. Seems they split opinion and i agree they can be hard to read, which is why i though Bordeaux Red dials was a nice compromise as they are a bit darker.
Maybe i just go all in for silver interior and then just add Bordeaux Red dials.
Is there a record for the amount of time spent playing with interior trim on the configurator?
If you like yellow interior and belts but are concerned clashing with red calipers why not just get the calipers painted, you then have the interior as you would like which needs to be a priority as that is where you will spend your time. I have yellow interior and belts and very happy with it.I’d prefer the yellow interior and matching yellow belts but concerned this would clash with the red brake calipers. So i then think ok i’ll go for the silver interior (saves £800) then add a bit of colour with red belts but do these then clash with the silver door pulls and look a bit odd? I like the idea of matching the red brakes to parts of the interior.
My current submitted spec is red trim, but it’s my least favourite option but it does offer a nice overall contrast.
And i really like coloured dials, I think they lift the interior but again i’d want them to match interior wise. Seems they split opinion and i agree they can be hard to read, which is why i though Bordeaux Red dials was a nice compromise as they are a bit darker.
Maybe i just go all in for silver interior and then just add Bordeaux Red dials.
Is there a record for the amount of time spent playing with interior trim on the configurator?
Edited by Jefferson Steelflex on Sunday 7th March 09:44
JohnGK said:
I've just had a quick scan through your configuration and noticed the multi function wheel. Do you intend for this to remain Alcantara?
I've gone full Leather with mine and yellow interior.
Yes, alcantara and multifunction are a must-have for me. I don’t care about tradition. I've gone full Leather with mine and yellow interior.
And thanks all for the advice. Despite the inevitable criticism that we are discussing stitching on a GT car, i hope this is also useful for others when they’re making the same decisions. I didn’t realise that actually locking in a spec would be so stressful.
I’ve made a few changes to my spec now, updated to a rear camera and dropped the dials and belts in dark red, and added a gloss black Spyder badge (my daughter insisted this was needed to match the door handles). Sticking with red interior for now, and have changed to guards red belts.
Only final choice (!) is going to be the trim strips. I like the idea of bringing the exterior to the interior, so white trim is doable and just need to decide on that or going dark and speccing black aluminium.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PMVZYI62
Jefferson Steelflex said:
Yes, alcantara and multifunction are a must-have for me. I don’t care about tradition.
And thanks all for the advice. Despite the inevitable criticism that we are discussing stitching on a GT car, i hope this is also useful for others when they’re making the same decisions. I didn’t realise that actually locking in a spec would be so stressful.
I’ve made a few changes to my spec now, updated to a rear camera and dropped the dials and belts in dark red, and added a gloss black Spyder badge (my daughter insisted this was needed to match the door handles). Sticking with red interior for now, and have changed to guards red belts.
Only final choice (!) is going to be the trim strips. I like the idea of bringing the exterior to the interior, so white trim is doable and just need to decide on that or going dark and speccing black aluminium.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PMVZYI62
There is also a leather option on the interior trim which I have selected. It's free - highly unusual for Porsche. Personally, I think it introduces a nice clean finish to the interior.And thanks all for the advice. Despite the inevitable criticism that we are discussing stitching on a GT car, i hope this is also useful for others when they’re making the same decisions. I didn’t realise that actually locking in a spec would be so stressful.
I’ve made a few changes to my spec now, updated to a rear camera and dropped the dials and belts in dark red, and added a gloss black Spyder badge (my daughter insisted this was needed to match the door handles). Sticking with red interior for now, and have changed to guards red belts.
Only final choice (!) is going to be the trim strips. I like the idea of bringing the exterior to the interior, so white trim is doable and just need to decide on that or going dark and speccing black aluminium.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PMVZYI62
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