The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

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GT4P

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5,188 posts

184 months

Saturday 14th August 2021
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Saw my first 718 spyder in the wild today (Broadway car show)well actually 2 one of each gearbox flavour as well! The kind gents let me sit in the cars one of which one had the 918style seats and must say they felt more snug than the ones I tried 6 years ago in the yellow 981 Gt4 at silverstone although still not sure of the lack of lower back support !
After seeing the spyders today the want is strong!

kmpowell

2,918 posts

227 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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As I wait for confirmation of my order allocation from my OPC, I've naturally been sat playing on the configurator. I think I've pretty much nailed down the spec, all except 2x things. 1. Buckets (I'll make a decision last minute because that's a heart v head = money) and 2. the external colour.

The car will be used as a weekend/occasion car, and may possibly venture on track once a year. Options ticked so far. Any I have missed that any owners here think are 100% 'essential' and I should consider?

- Race-Tex interior with extensive leather and stitching in contrasting Yellow
- ‘PORSCHE’ logo painted Satin Black
- PDK
- Chrono Pack
- Black Brake calipers
- Wheels painted Silver
- LED headlights
- Electrically folding exterior mirrors
- ParkAssist (rear)
- Steering wheel rim top centre marking in Yellow
- Seat belts in Racing Yellow
- Storage compartment lid in Race-Tex with 'PORSCHE' logo
- Brushed aluminium interior package in anthracite

Silver wheeled cars appear to be few & far between, so if anyone here owns white, black or gentian, with the silver wheels, please can you share pics?









davidc1

1,544 posts

161 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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All personal preference but i really dont like the yellow belts and stitching. Is too much imo.
Red or silver much nicer. Or std black!


av185

18,433 posts

126 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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Yellow stitching and belts ok with black or Gentian but are never a good idea with Carrara White as rather insipid. Same with silver wheels.

I always spec Carrara with red stitching and belts also satin plat wheels which overall gives the best contrast. Also have the free red ££ calipers which ties in with the red int thus avoiding the overpriced and rather dull black calipers.

AdamGT4

121 posts

147 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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Finally picked up mine last Thursday from Portsmouth. Done 250 miles in it and I love it! Handles amazingly, engine pulls so well to 4k, where I unfortunately need to short shift for the next 750 miles but you can tell it’s going to be magical once I can let it rip.

I did the cheap mod of an M6 screw in each exhaust line and now the throttle is linear to the exhaust noise plus sounds very good IMO.






julian987R

6,746 posts

58 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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kmpowell said:
As I wait for confirmation of my order allocation from my OPC, I've naturally been sat playing on the configurator. I think I've pretty much nailed down the spec, all except 2x things. 1. Buckets (I'll make a decision last minute because that's a heart v head = money) and 2. the external colour.

The car will be used as a weekend/occasion car, and may possibly venture on track once a year. Options ticked so far. Any I have missed that any owners here think are 100% 'essential' and I should consider?

- Race-Tex interior with extensive leather and stitching in contrasting Yellow
- ‘PORSCHE’ logo painted Satin Black
- PDK
- Chrono Pack
- Black Brake calipers
- Wheels painted Silver
- LED headlights
- Electrically folding exterior mirrors
- ParkAssist (rear)
- Steering wheel rim top centre marking in Yellow
- Seat belts in Racing Yellow
- Storage compartment lid in Race-Tex with 'PORSCHE' logo
- Brushed aluminium interior package in anthracite

Silver wheeled cars appear to be few & far between, so if anyone here owns white, black or gentian, with the silver wheels, please can you share pics?





I'm not convinced that is a sensible approach, as in the same spec and just toggle the exterior colour and expect it still to all work.

If I was you I'd set up 3 specs, keeping the same non visual options across them all, and then adjust the stitch, 12 o'clock, wheels and decal colours tailored to each body colour.

At least you didn't list the natty cr@ppy free foot well net, so thats good, you are half way there or more.





Edited by julian987R on Monday 16th August 01:11

kmpowell

2,918 posts

227 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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AdamGT4]Finally picked up mine last Thursday said:
Looks lovely, congrats. Manual, I'm assuming from your comments?

julian987R said:
If I was you I'd set up 3 specs, keeping the same non visual options across them all, and then adjust the stitch, 12 o'clock, wheels and decal colours tailored to each body colour.

At least you didn't list the natty cr@ppy free foot well net, so thats good, you are half way there or more.
To be honest, that's the problem (I say problem in the loosest sense of the world, because I realise it's not actually a proper problem!). If I do that I'm left with so many I'd actually be happy with. I'm happy with yellow or red stitching, but not silver. I'd even go for the standard interior, but I've been told resale will make it harder, and I quite like the leather dash and stitching it makes it feel a bit more of an occasion in the car. But I'd happily ditch that and put the money towards the buckets if needed.

In my mind, which is perhaps the wrong thing to do(?), I'm trying to balance up a more 'classic' GT look (silver wheels and small coloured highlights), or a more Modern GT look (Black or Arum wheels and lots of colour highlights)

The only certainties in my mind are no PCCBs, and not definitely not Red or Yellow paint. I do like the look of Python but to get the best from that I think it needs PCCBs to contrast, so I've narrowed it down to White, Black or Blue paint.

I think black wheels are a bit 'done' now, so I'd err towards Arum if I were to not go for Silver wheels.

My initial gut instincts were:

White + Arum Wheels + Red stitching + Red callipers + Red belts + Red O'Clock
Black + Silver Wheels + Yellow Stitching + Black Callipers + Yellow belts + Yellow o'clock (or Red Stitching + Red Callipers, Red belts + Red o'clock)
Blue + Silver Wheels + Yellow Stitching + Black Callipers + Yellow belts + Yellow o'clock

But then I started mixing and matching and my head was blown. Part of me is hoping my dealer doesn't get me an allocation, because I'm not sure I'm going to be able to choose! hehe

Choices choices.



bigmowley

1,876 posts

175 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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I can help you with blue, silver wheels and yellow stitching. Ignore the stripes




Wrong blue I know!

GRD_72

140 posts

58 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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kmpowell said:
Silver wheeled cars appear to be few & far between, so if anyone here owns white, black or gentian, with the silver wheels, please can you share pics?
I've had a deposit down for a GT4 for quite some time, earlier in the year it seemed likely the car would not materialise so I started keeping a very close eye on the used market, I even started a simple spread sheet to log all the cars that went through OPC's (don't ask but it's amazing what you do to fill time when doing covid quarantine in a hotel rolleyes )

You are correct, the silver wheels are not common & the least popular option. Of all the cars i've seen the one that sat on the market for the longest (4 months) was a Gentian blue car with silver wheels at Brooklands, the OPC add even stated "Wheels can be refinished in satin black or Arum for no extra cost". But if you like the combo that's what counts, but it's not popular. With Gentian try the Arum wheels with black calipers, the red calipers make it look a bit confused but once blacked out it sort of comes together - shame it costs 600 quid though!!

ab8

189 posts

139 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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ab8 said:
I'm not sure this is an issue anymore - when locking my spec on a July build (model year 2022) Spyder this week the steering column casing only came with black stitching (I've got silver everywhere else). That could I suppose be Spyder only.
After taking delivery, this is wrong - the steering column leather casing has coloured stitching.

dashobbit

196 posts

91 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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New GT4 owner... Crayon, with black/yellow theme for the interior. PDK, PCCB etc.

Still running it in but initial thoughts:

- it feels designed to be a 'tool'; drive to the ring, smash round, drive back. Useful, given that's exactly why I've got it

- wouldn't recommend it as a road car. Lots of cheaper options out there that would arguably be more engaging, a good example being a supercharged MX5 and with a few mods, becomes a B road champion (ohlins, uprated brakes, stereo, seats etc)

- this is a 'dream car' for me, so i went to town on the options to make it aesthetically what i wanted, but in reality you could save a lot of cash by removing it all and it would do the same job

- really pleased with the car from a performance perspective as it's everything I expected, it's a baby GT3, and that's enough car for me for the 'ring. The extra 80bhp is wasted on me, and the handling is much more preferable. Having driven a 991.2 3RS with MR kit round the ring, i fully acknowledge they're 'easier to drive' than the 996 era, but being used to front-engined, RWD cars, or FWD cars, I still felt it was trying to kill me ;-)

- pleasantly surprised by the bose stereo. Wasn't expecting lots, but it drones out the engine at lower RPMs nicely and does the job for the kind of music i listen to

- not fussed about engine noise. Quieter the better for me, it's loud enough when you're > 5k and after 2 laps of that round the ring, i doubt i'll be yearning for 'more noise'. The only comment i'd have is that there's an induction or pump whine that's quite annoying, but an increase in volume on the stereo sorts that

- there are some things that i almost wish porsche wouldn't offer. You don't expect mega tech in a 'sports car', but some tech is so dated it makes me kinda laugh. e.g. the cruise con doesn't have the option to be adaptive, apple carplay link is fairly pointless as nothing can be controlled using the stalk aside from dialling a recent number (or whatever - my use case would be to skip a track, or adjust volume)










Looking forward to the first trip to the ring at the end of the month

kmpowell

2,918 posts

227 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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dashobbit said:
New GT4 owner... Crayon, with black/yellow theme for the interior. PDK, PCCB etc.
Congrats. How are you finding the PDK, any regrets? smile

Edited by kmpowell on Tuesday 17th August 13:59

kmpowell

2,918 posts

227 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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GRD_72 said:
I've had a deposit down for a GT4 for quite some time, earlier in the year it seemed likely the car would not materialise so I started keeping a very close eye on the used market, I even started a simple spread sheet to log all the cars that went through OPC's (don't ask but it's amazing what you do to fill time when doing covid quarantine in a hotel rolleyes )

You are correct, the silver wheels are not common & the least popular option. Of all the cars i've seen the one that sat on the market for the longest (4 months) was a Gentian blue car with silver wheels at Brooklands, the OPC add even stated "Wheels can be refinished in satin black or Arum for no extra cost". But if you like the combo that's what counts, but it's not popular. With Gentian try the Arum wheels with black calipers, the red calipers make it look a bit confused but once blacked out it sort of comes together - shame it costs 600 quid though!!
Thanks, I think that although I like the 'Classic' look (dark Gentian or Black with silver wheels), I'm now erring towards the White/Arum/Red combination.

http://www.porsche-code.com/PN8QRE27

Some really helpful advice on this thread, thanks! Any further thoughts, keep it coming!. smile


julian987R

6,746 posts

58 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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kmpowell said:
GRD_72 said:
I've had a deposit down for a GT4 for quite some time, earlier in the year it seemed likely the car would not materialise so I started keeping a very close eye on the used market, I even started a simple spread sheet to log all the cars that went through OPC's (don't ask but it's amazing what you do to fill time when doing covid quarantine in a hotel rolleyes )

You are correct, the silver wheels are not common & the least popular option. Of all the cars i've seen the one that sat on the market for the longest (4 months) was a Gentian blue car with silver wheels at Brooklands, the OPC add even stated "Wheels can be refinished in satin black or Arum for no extra cost". But if you like the combo that's what counts, but it's not popular. With Gentian try the Arum wheels with black calipers, the red calipers make it look a bit confused but once blacked out it sort of comes together - shame it costs 600 quid though!!
Thanks, I think that although I like the 'Classic' look (dark Gentian or Black with silver wheels), I'm now erring towards the White/Arum/Red combination.

http://www.porsche-code.com/PN8QRE27

Some really helpful advice on this thread, thanks! Any further thoughts, keep it coming!. smile
Well, here is your car then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whiet8Pr5N8

dashobbit

196 posts

91 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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kmpowell said:
Congrats. How are you finding the PDK, and regrets? smile
Just an opinion, but I don’t think the GT4 is worth having for the road and is best on track. The PDK is excellent, and as a lot happens at many corners at the ring - ie brake, turn, change gear, the PDK is the best choice

I have a more “engaging” car for the road/track that’s a manual and have driven manuals at the ring for years. Once things start happening more quickly, I’d rather have a PDK

No regrets. I think any buyer would know what they’re in for when they get one, there are tons of reviews etc, so it’s everything I expected and hoped for

If the suspension turns out to be a bit too stiff for the ring and I need the Manthey kit for more confidence… maybe that’ll be a regret as I hand over an extra 15k wink

ClioTrophy55

312 posts

99 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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dashobbit said:
kmpowell said:
Congrats. How are you finding the PDK, and regrets? smile
Just an opinion, but I don’t think the GT4 is worth having for the road and is best on track. The PDK is excellent, and as a lot happens at many corners at the ring - ie brake, turn, change gear, the PDK is the best choice
Absolutely agree. That's why I waited for PDK before pulling the trigger on the GT4. I always use PDK on track - as OP says, there's too much going on in some corners to afford to get one thing wrong at speed.

GR Yaris and 911 GTS Convertible do the job for purposeful/touring road use respectively.

Joscal

2,072 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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dashobbit said:
Just an opinion, but I don’t think the GT4 is worth having for the road and is best on track. The PDK is excellent, and as a lot happens at many corners at the ring - ie brake, turn, change gear, the PDK is the best choice

I have a more “engaging” car for the road/track that’s a manual and have driven manuals at the ring for years. Once things start happening more quickly, I’d rather have a PDK

No regrets. I think any buyer would know what they’re in for when they get one, there are tons of reviews etc, so it’s everything I expected and hoped for

If the suspension turns out to be a bit too stiff for the ring and I need the Manthey kit for more confidence… maybe that’ll be a regret as I hand over an extra 15k wink
I agree, I really didn't like mine on the road at all it was completely wasted on me. Wonderful tool though and absolutely stunning to look at.

Health to enjoy.

Gio G

2,945 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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Interesting comments from PDK owners and clearly a very personal choice. I would only ever want an auto equivalent if the manual was not up to the job. The manual in the GT4 IMHO is the best out there.. I own an S2000 and I thought there was not a gear change that could better it until I got my GT4 smile

PDK is an option in pretty much everything in the Porsche line up and it is an awesome gearbox, certainly one of the best, however the manual in the GT4 is just so sweet - part of making the car so special for me.

At least we have the option and Porsche should be celebrated for that...

G

kmpowell

2,918 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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Interesting comments re PDK. I'd set my heart on PDK, but then I had a conversation with my finance broker today re specs I was considering and he advised that a Manual will be a better choice (unless I had a specific want/need for PDK) due to the underwriters all projecting/predicting a GT4 being significantly more desirable in manual form and they're underwriting accordingly.

As a bonus, if I spec buckets, the finance interest projections don't move, so they are now on my list and I'm still tinkering...

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNMSR661



Edited by kmpowell on Tuesday 17th August 17:18

av185

18,433 posts

126 months

Tuesday 17th August 2021
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kmpowell said:
Interesting comments re PDK. I'd set my heart on PDK, but then I had a conversation with my finance broker today re specs I was considering and he advised that a Manual will be a better choice (unless I had a specific want/need for PDK) due to the underwriters all projecting/predicting a GT4 being significantly more desirable in manual form and they're underwriting accordingly.

As a bonus, if I spec buckets, the finance interest projections don't move, so they are now on my list and I'm still tinkering...

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNMSR661



Edited by kmpowell on Tuesday 17th August 17:18
Interesting projections on the manual especially as the PDK GT4 is and will be far rarer. 991.2 GT3 commands a greater premium than the PDK despite virtual parity on manuf numbers reflecting those who bought manuals have kept their cars.

Reflects most want manual gearbox focused drivers cars in an increasing diluted and auto gearbox world.