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hixster said:
Porsche themselves have said there will be more uses for this new engine elsewhere in the range and there are an array of clear mule shots of the car. (As there were with the GT4) - this car is coming.
Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.
Yes their will be a price increase across the range and it will affect pcp prices big time . A 10% import tax on a £70k is at least another £145 with interest over 4 years . As its an import tax it wont have impact on the residuals. Why do you think pcps are geared up for 4 years now? Nothing to do with 3 years pcps becoming more expensive. Yes the 718 6 touring is coming but effectively they are week end toys judging by the mileage these cars do and one of the first things that suffer?Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.
Edited by hixster on Thursday 29th August 16:45
All manufacturers are worried . Audi bmw all doing poorly at the moment doesnt need another spanner in the works
Thankyou for all the reply's, subject to test drive think it will be an S. .
Next question , what is the Boxter like as an every day car including motorway journeys, roof up and down? Is the noise / buffeting significant cruising at 70 ? Would I be able to drive 150 miles on the motorway and still enjoy the experience ? And is the Caymen significantly better in this respect ?
Next question , what is the Boxter like as an every day car including motorway journeys, roof up and down? Is the noise / buffeting significant cruising at 70 ? Would I be able to drive 150 miles on the motorway and still enjoy the experience ? And is the Caymen significantly better in this respect ?
Always amazed the one extra never mentioned is the smaller GT wheel. It’s night and day in terms of responsiveness.
Re base 2.0. It’s best to mate this with pdk. The taller geared manual exaggerates the turbo lag. If you really want a manual best to step up to the 2.5, if you can. That all said I’ve lived with a gts and base, and VFM prefer the base. But that’s my opinion as my daily driver.
Re base 2.0. It’s best to mate this with pdk. The taller geared manual exaggerates the turbo lag. If you really want a manual best to step up to the 2.5, if you can. That all said I’ve lived with a gts and base, and VFM prefer the base. But that’s my opinion as my daily driver.
tedblog said:
hixster said:
Porsche themselves have said there will be more uses for this new engine elsewhere in the range and there are an array of clear mule shots of the car. (As there were with the GT4) - this car is coming.
Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.
Yes their will be a price increase across the range and it will affect pcp prices big time . A 10% import tax on a £70k is at least another £145 with interest over 4 years . As its an import tax it wont have impact on the residuals. Why do you think pcps are geared up for 4 years now? Nothing to do with 3 years pcps becoming more expensive. Yes the 718 6 touring is coming but effectively they are week end toys judging by the mileage these cars do and one of the first things that suffer?Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.
Edited by hixster on Thursday 29th August 16:45
All manufacturers are worried . Audi bmw all doing poorly at the moment doesnt need another spanner in the works
The Livster said:
Thankyou for all the reply's, subject to test drive think it will be an S. .
Next question , what is the Boxter like as an every day car including motorway journeys, roof up and down? Is the noise / buffeting significant cruising at 70 ? Would I be able to drive 150 miles on the motorway and still enjoy the experience ? And is the Caymen significantly better in this respect ?
The soft top is always going to be noisier than the coupe so I'd say only go for the soft top if you'll have it down regularly. I've had mine down in sub zero temps and you don't get brain freeze till over 60. Heated seats are useful in the winter but I'd recommend heated steering wheel over seats. You can wear a winter coat and lower the roof in cold weather but massive gloves while driving is a bit tricky. Mind you little gloves work fine and then you dont need the heated wheel. I'm a big fan of top down driving and the 981 / 718 is great for this. Its acceptable up to 90 I think but obviously one man's acceptable is another's annoying. I changed the standard Porsche mesh wind deflector for a solid clear perspex item made by a bloke in America. It gives better rear visibility. I'm a bit paranoid about old bill following me. So to answer your question yes 70 should be fine top down even if its the middle of winter and you're dressed appropriately. You can burn quickly in the summer so bear that in mind. With the extra wind at 70 you'll burn without realising it especially if you're cruising along the motorway - cruise control could be nice - it's one option I'd like. I find driving much more enjoyable (even at slower speeds) with the roof down but it's seen by others to be some form of showing off so city centre urban commuting roof down requires a care free attitude and does make you feel like more of a target to the thieves and undesirables. Roof can be lowered and raised while moving less than 35 or 40 mph - cant remember - and can be operated by the key while you're walking towards or away from the car. Also roof down makes getting in and out a lot easier in a tight parking spot. Oh and if it does start raining on the motorway you remain dry with roof down at 70mph but you'll get wet at 30 or 40. It is an offence to stop under a motorway bridge to raise the roof and requires some very last minute braking to execute well.Next question , what is the Boxter like as an every day car including motorway journeys, roof up and down? Is the noise / buffeting significant cruising at 70 ? Would I be able to drive 150 miles on the motorway and still enjoy the experience ? And is the Caymen significantly better in this respect ?
ATM said:
The soft top is always going to be noisier than the coupe....
That general rule doesn't apply to Bosxter/Cayman - not least because the Cayman effectively has the engine inside the car with you. There a a number of occasions when people have posted on here about Cayman being noisier than Boxster.Also, just confirming what someone said a couple of posts back, base engine and PDK make a particularly sweet combination IMO with auto box shuffling gears very quickly/precisely and keeping that modest engine nicely on the boil. Base 718 with PDK is a stunning sports car for the money.
rockin said:
ATM said:
The soft top is always going to be noisier than the coupe....
That general rule doesn't apply to Bosxter/Cayman - not least because the Cayman effectively has the engine inside the car with you. There a a number of occasions when people have posted on here about Cayman being noisier than Boxster.Also, just confirming what someone said a couple of posts back, base engine and PDK make a particularly sweet combination IMO with auto box shuffling gears very quickly/precisely and keeping that modest engine nicely on the boil. Base 718 with PDK is a stunning sports car for the money.
rockin said:
That general rule doesn't apply to Bosxter/Cayman - not least because the Cayman effectively has the engine inside the car with you. There a a number of occasions when people have posted on here about Cayman being noisier than Boxster.
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Yes - and it's not just an impression. It's only a db so no big deal on paper. However my impression is that tyre noise on motorways (the Achilles heel of the Cayman and 911) is less too. You lose a fair bit of luggage space with the Boxster - but there is still a lot left..
I chose Cayman over Boxster for a few reason, in order:
1/ Cayman is a better looker. Boxster has lost its 986/7 "push-pullyou" shape but still a little odd looking and girlie.
2/ Sideways view. I noticed during my extended Boxster test (1 1/2 days) that the sideways glance is compromised whereas the Cayman's is excellent.
3/ Being over 27 and having had convertibles for 15 years I came to the conclusion it's best to a) hide myself away and b) not be "forced" into having to drop the roof when it's blisteringly hot and when aircon is essential. I don't miss open top driving at all, but it was fun occasionally.
1/ Cayman is a better looker. Boxster has lost its 986/7 "push-pullyou" shape but still a little odd looking and girlie.
2/ Sideways view. I noticed during my extended Boxster test (1 1/2 days) that the sideways glance is compromised whereas the Cayman's is excellent.
3/ Being over 27 and having had convertibles for 15 years I came to the conclusion it's best to a) hide myself away and b) not be "forced" into having to drop the roof when it's blisteringly hot and when aircon is essential. I don't miss open top driving at all, but it was fun occasionally.
1/ Cayman is a better looker.
No it is not.
2/ Sideways view.
Who cares!
3/ Being over 27 and having had convertibles for 15 years I came to the conclusion it's best to a) hide myself away and b) not be "forced" into having to drop the roof when it's blisteringly hot and when aircon is essential. I don't miss open top driving at all, but it was fun occasionally.
Pants - the air con in the Boxster is exactly the same as it is in the Cayman. If it's really hot I go roof up and air con on.
Clearly you're not a hard core soft top person. If you are there is only one choice. The one with the soft top.
No it is not.
2/ Sideways view.
Who cares!
3/ Being over 27 and having had convertibles for 15 years I came to the conclusion it's best to a) hide myself away and b) not be "forced" into having to drop the roof when it's blisteringly hot and when aircon is essential. I don't miss open top driving at all, but it was fun occasionally.
Pants - the air con in the Boxster is exactly the same as it is in the Cayman. If it's really hot I go roof up and air con on.
Clearly you're not a hard core soft top person. If you are there is only one choice. The one with the soft top.
ATM said:
That's a very cheap and nice 718...pity it isn't a manualFrankCayman said:
ATM said:
That's a very cheap and nice 718...pity it isn't a manualAdy128 said:
11,000 miles in 3 years? Doesn't sound like much enjoyment to me. I'm on 14,000 in 18 months in my CGTS.
Agreed, would have like to have done more. Didn't use it as a daily. Will want to do some Euro roadtrips in the new one. Held its price well though.. amazing residuals.
tedblog said:
Yes their will be a price increase across the range and it will affect pcp prices big time . A 10% import tax on a £70k is at least another £145 with interest over 4 years . As its an import tax it wont have impact on the residuals. Why do you think pcps are geared up for 4 years now? Nothing to do with 3 years pcps becoming more expensive. Yes the 718 6 touring is coming but effectively they are week end toys judging by the mileage these cars do and one of the first things that suffer?
All manufacturers are worried . Audi bmw all doing poorly at the moment doesnt need another spanner in the works
update from dealer today - Cayman 6 / Touring launching November/December apparently. All manufacturers are worried . Audi bmw all doing poorly at the moment doesnt need another spanner in the works
Edited by hixster on Monday 9th September 19:08
I was 1000% sure I wanted a 981s and after trying one I decided to try a 718s just to make sure. The dealer only had a 718T as a demonstrator and I was sadly disappointed with the sound compared to the 981 (which many will tell you and there are numerous debates about). I was told the 718T had new emission controls fitted and this basically killed the experience. I saw a used 718 (not the S) for sale at another dealer 100 miles away and tested both it and the 718s he had in stock. I bought the 718. Virtually no difference between the 718 and the 718s in real everyday driving terms so I chose a very highly specced 718. Not one regret. In sport mode the 718 sounds amazing and I much prefer the more modern touches of the interior in the 718 over the 981.
Many will have different views so you need to go with the car you like. I spent way too long listening to opinions and decided to make my own mind up.
Many will have different views so you need to go with the car you like. I spent way too long listening to opinions and decided to make my own mind up.
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