Which 718 ?

Which 718 ?

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hixster

298 posts

162 months

Thursday 29th August
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Porsche themselves have said there will be more uses for this new engine elsewhere in the range and there are an array of clear mule shots of the car. (As there were with the GT4) - this car is coming.

Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.

Edited by hixster on Thursday 29th August 16:45

Bone Rat

236 posts

108 months

Thursday 29th August
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Hi, just looking at your other cars hopefully this may help. We bought a base 981 2.7 - largely because the wife wanted one before getting too old. We already had a 2.0TT and a Mazda 3MPS to compare it to. The 981 was better put together than the MPS and not a lot different interior wise to the TT - just reflected the VAG basis.

To be honest the performance of the 981 wasn't a huge change from the MPS and felt underwhelming given 'It was a Porsche'. The handling was much better but there was a feeling of disappointment overall. "is this it?"

She sold it last year and changed to a 718S, the 2.5, now that is far more like it. it performs much better and handles brilliantly. This time expectations have been met.

Just my thoughts but I do wonder if you may feel a bit let down seeing as you already have a very capable Golf R. I'd be inclined to go for the S or above rather than the 2.0 and wonder endlessly what the bigger one would be like. I'm not going to muse on the various options & noise, others do this.

Racing rabbit

53 posts

83 months

Thursday 29th August
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I've got the 2.0T, never ever crossed my mind that 300bhp wasn't enough.

Defo spec dual zone climate, 19's. Everything else is just shiny stuff, standard spec has google mapping built into satnav.

Standard alcantara seats are ok and quite grippy, if you have leather make sure they're heated

tedblog

556 posts

25 months

Thursday 29th August
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hixster said:
Porsche themselves have said there will be more uses for this new engine elsewhere in the range and there are an array of clear mule shots of the car. (As there were with the GT4) - this car is coming.

Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.

Edited by hixster on Thursday 29th August 16:45
Yes their will be a price increase across the range and it will affect pcp prices big time . A 10% import tax on a £70k is at least another £145 with interest over 4 years . As its an import tax it wont have impact on the residuals. Why do you think pcps are geared up for 4 years now? Nothing to do with 3 years pcps becoming more expensive. Yes the 718 6 touring is coming but effectively they are week end toys judging by the mileage these cars do and one of the first things that suffer?
All manufacturers are worried . Audi bmw all doing poorly at the moment doesnt need another spanner in the works

The Livster

Original Poster:

200 posts

61 months

Thursday 29th August
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Thankyou for all the reply's, subject to test drive think it will be an S. .

Next question , what is the Boxter like as an every day car including motorway journeys, roof up and down? Is the noise / buffeting significant cruising at 70 ? Would I be able to drive 150 miles on the motorway and still enjoy the experience ? And is the Caymen significantly better in this respect ?

Ollie1977

105 posts

32 months

Thursday 29th August
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Always amazed the one extra never mentioned is the smaller GT wheel. It’s night and day in terms of responsiveness.

Re base 2.0. It’s best to mate this with pdk. The taller geared manual exaggerates the turbo lag. If you really want a manual best to step up to the 2.5, if you can. That all said I’ve lived with a gts and base, and VFM prefer the base. But that’s my opinion as my daily driver.

hixster

298 posts

162 months

Thursday 29th August
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tedblog said:
hixster said:
Porsche themselves have said there will be more uses for this new engine elsewhere in the range and there are an array of clear mule shots of the car. (As there were with the GT4) - this car is coming.

Porsche aren’t going to stop selling Porsches in the UK. If Brexit affects the price of this model, it will affect the price of all models, of all cars. Most people who can afford to buy a new Porsche, Could probably stretch an extra 5-10% on PCP per month.

Edited by hixster on Thursday 29th August 16:45
Yes their will be a price increase across the range and it will affect pcp prices big time . A 10% import tax on a £70k is at least another £145 with interest over 4 years . As its an import tax it wont have impact on the residuals. Why do you think pcps are geared up for 4 years now? Nothing to do with 3 years pcps becoming more expensive. Yes the 718 6 touring is coming but effectively they are week end toys judging by the mileage these cars do and one of the first things that suffer?
All manufacturers are worried . Audi bmw all doing poorly at the moment doesnt need another spanner in the works
None of this bothers me. Only did 11k In the 981 over 3 years. Looking forward to a new one and will enjoy it.

ATM

9,542 posts

164 months

Thursday 29th August
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The Livster said:
Thankyou for all the reply's, subject to test drive think it will be an S. .

Next question , what is the Boxter like as an every day car including motorway journeys, roof up and down? Is the noise / buffeting significant cruising at 70 ? Would I be able to drive 150 miles on the motorway and still enjoy the experience ? And is the Caymen significantly better in this respect ?
The soft top is always going to be noisier than the coupe so I'd say only go for the soft top if you'll have it down regularly. I've had mine down in sub zero temps and you don't get brain freeze till over 60. Heated seats are useful in the winter but I'd recommend heated steering wheel over seats. You can wear a winter coat and lower the roof in cold weather but massive gloves while driving is a bit tricky. Mind you little gloves work fine and then you dont need the heated wheel. I'm a big fan of top down driving and the 981 / 718 is great for this. Its acceptable up to 90 I think but obviously one man's acceptable is another's annoying. I changed the standard Porsche mesh wind deflector for a solid clear perspex item made by a bloke in America. It gives better rear visibility. I'm a bit paranoid about old bill following me. So to answer your question yes 70 should be fine top down even if its the middle of winter and you're dressed appropriately. You can burn quickly in the summer so bear that in mind. With the extra wind at 70 you'll burn without realising it especially if you're cruising along the motorway - cruise control could be nice - it's one option I'd like. I find driving much more enjoyable (even at slower speeds) with the roof down but it's seen by others to be some form of showing off so city centre urban commuting roof down requires a care free attitude and does make you feel like more of a target to the thieves and undesirables. Roof can be lowered and raised while moving less than 35 or 40 mph - cant remember - and can be operated by the key while you're walking towards or away from the car. Also roof down makes getting in and out a lot easier in a tight parking spot. Oh and if it does start raining on the motorway you remain dry with roof down at 70mph but you'll get wet at 30 or 40. It is an offence to stop under a motorway bridge to raise the roof and requires some very last minute braking to execute well.

rockin

6,798 posts

190 months

Friday 30th August
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ATM said:
The soft top is always going to be noisier than the coupe....
That general rule doesn't apply to Bosxter/Cayman - not least because the Cayman effectively has the engine inside the car with you. There a a number of occasions when people have posted on here about Cayman being noisier than Boxster.

Also, just confirming what someone said a couple of posts back, base engine and PDK make a particularly sweet combination IMO with auto box shuffling gears very quickly/precisely and keeping that modest engine nicely on the boil. Base 718 with PDK is a stunning sports car for the money.

Riverside Red

893 posts

80 months

Friday 30th August
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Tyre noise in my 981 Boxster with 20" rims and in the 718's I've driven/tested (all with 20" rims) is my biggest bug bear and makes motorway driving tiring. Engine noise can also be an issue in the base 981 at Motorway speeds too, but wouldn't think it would be an issue with the turbo 718 engines with more low down torque.

RR

Porsche911R

17,324 posts

210 months

Friday 30th August
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rockin said:
ATM said:
The soft top is always going to be noisier than the coupe....
That general rule doesn't apply to Bosxter/Cayman - not least because the Cayman effectively has the engine inside the car with you. There a a number of occasions when people have posted on here about Cayman being noisier than Boxster.

Also, just confirming what someone said a couple of posts back, base engine and PDK make a particularly sweet combination IMO with auto box shuffling gears very quickly/precisely and keeping that modest engine nicely on the boil. Base 718 with PDK is a stunning sports car for the money.
wind noise is far far higher in the Boxster over a Cayman.

bcr5784

3,817 posts

90 months

Friday 30th August
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rockin said:
That general rule doesn't apply to Bosxter/Cayman - not least because the Cayman effectively has the engine inside the car with you. There a a number of occasions when people have posted on here about Cayman being noisier than Boxster.

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Yes - and it's not just an impression. It's only a db so no big deal on paper. However my impression is that tyre noise on motorways (the Achilles heel of the Cayman and 911) is less too. You lose a fair bit of luggage space with the Boxster - but there is still a lot left.

DJMC

2,499 posts

48 months

Friday 30th August
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I chose Cayman over Boxster for a few reason, in order:

1/ Cayman is a better looker. Boxster has lost its 986/7 "push-pullyou" shape but still a little odd looking and girlie.

2/ Sideways view. I noticed during my extended Boxster test (1 1/2 days) that the sideways glance is compromised whereas the Cayman's is excellent.

3/ Being over 27 and having had convertibles for 15 years I came to the conclusion it's best to a) hide myself away and b) not be "forced" into having to drop the roof when it's blisteringly hot and when aircon is essential. I don't miss open top driving at all, but it was fun occasionally.

ATM

9,542 posts

164 months

Friday 30th August
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1/ Cayman is a better looker.

No it is not.


2/ Sideways view.

Who cares!


3/ Being over 27 and having had convertibles for 15 years I came to the conclusion it's best to a) hide myself away and b) not be "forced" into having to drop the roof when it's blisteringly hot and when aircon is essential. I don't miss open top driving at all, but it was fun occasionally.

Pants - the air con in the Boxster is exactly the same as it is in the Cayman. If it's really hot I go roof up and air con on.



Clearly you're not a hard core soft top person. If you are there is only one choice. The one with the soft top.

ATM

9,542 posts

164 months

Friday 30th August
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2.0 with the heated folding carbon buckets

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392404275377



FrankCayman

1,932 posts

158 months

Friday 30th August
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ATM said:
2.0 with the heated folding carbon buckets

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392404275377


That's a very cheap and nice 718...pity it isn't a manual

rockin

6,798 posts

190 months

Friday 30th August
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DJMC said:
Boxster.... still a little odd looking and girlie.
But those of us with very, very small todgers learn not to worry about these things.

Are you still having those sleepless nights?

ATM

9,542 posts

164 months

Friday 30th August
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FrankCayman said:
ATM said:
2.0 with the heated folding carbon buckets

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392404275377


That's a very cheap and nice 718...pity it isn't a manual
It's an auction

Ady128

529 posts

88 months

Wednesday 4th September
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hixster said:
None of this bothers me. Only did 11k In the 981 over 3 years. Looking forward to a new one and will enjoy it.
11,000 miles in 3 years? Doesn't sound like much enjoyment to me. I'm on 14,000 in 18 months in my CGTS.

hixster

298 posts

162 months

Thursday 5th September
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Ady128 said:
11,000 miles in 3 years? Doesn't sound like much enjoyment to me. I'm on 14,000 in 18 months in my CGTS.
Agreed, would have like to have done more. Didn't use it as a daily. Will want to do some Euro roadtrips in the new one.
Held its price well though.. amazing residuals.