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starshots said:
I was 1000% sure I wanted a 981s and after trying one I decided to try a 718s just to make sure. The dealer only had a 718T as a demonstrator and I was sadly disappointed with the sound compared to the 981 (which many will tell you and there are numerous debates about). I was told the 718T had new emission controls fitted and this basically killed the experience. I saw a used 718 (not the S) for sale at another dealer 100 miles away and tested both it and the 718s he had in stock. I bought the 718. Virtually no difference between the 718 and the 718s in real everyday driving terms so I chose a very highly specced 718. Not one regret. In sport mode the 718 sounds amazing and I much prefer the more modern touches of the interior in the 718 over the 981.
Many will have different views so you need to go with the car you like. I spent way too long listening to opinions and decided to make my own mind up.
Thanks. This is very interesting to someone currently looking at the market (me). I always wondered whether the constant trashing of the 4 cylinder 718s on these forums was based on fact, or was mainly just disgruntled owners of the previous model misrepresenting their opinions as "facts" to preserve their resale values. Reading beyond the nonsense written on here seems very good advice indeed. Shame about the GFPs though.Many will have different views so you need to go with the car you like. I spent way too long listening to opinions and decided to make my own mind up.
How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
TimoMak said:
Thanks. This is very interesting to someone currently looking at the market (me). I always wondered whether the constant trashing of the 4 cylinder 718s on these forums was based on fact, or was mainly just disgruntled owners of the previous model misrepresenting their opinions as "facts" to preserve their resale values. Reading beyond the nonsense written on here seems very good advice indeed. Shame about the GFPs though.
How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
Practically all of the road tests were also very critical of the 718 engine - so it's not just an 981 owner thing. But try both 981 and 718 and make up your own mind. How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
In every regard except the sound of the engine, the performance the 718 is better than the 981.
For me the key upsides of a new 718 versus a used 981 are:
More mid range torque so quicker in real world driving.
Looks better.
Better PCM.
Better steering.
Can have the spec I want.
I drove several examples of both 718 and 981, Caymans and Boxsters, before making the decision to buy a base 718 Cayman (arrives end of Oct). Yes the 981 sounded a better - on the few occasions I extended the engine fully through the range - but as a daily driver there is to my mind no doubt the 718 is the better car ... for me. YMMV.
For me the key upsides of a new 718 versus a used 981 are:
More mid range torque so quicker in real world driving.
Looks better.
Better PCM.
Better steering.
Can have the spec I want.
I drove several examples of both 718 and 981, Caymans and Boxsters, before making the decision to buy a base 718 Cayman (arrives end of Oct). Yes the 981 sounded a better - on the few occasions I extended the engine fully through the range - but as a daily driver there is to my mind no doubt the 718 is the better car ... for me. YMMV.
Edited by churchie2856 on Wednesday 11th September 18:42
TimoMak said:
Thanks. This is very interesting to someone currently looking at the market (me). I always wondered whether the constant trashing of the 4 cylinder 718s on these forums was based on fact, or was mainly just disgruntled owners of the previous model misrepresenting their opinions as "facts" to preserve their resale values. Reading beyond the nonsense written on here seems very good advice indeed. Shame about the GFPs though.
How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
I bought a base Boxster in 2014. Traded it in 2.5 years and 25k later for a base 718 Cayman. Pure coincidence, but I traded the 718 in 2.5 years and 25k miles later for a 718 T. Residuals almost identical, if not slightly better on the 718. There’s also a lot of chat on here about dealers being unable to shift 718s. OPC had sold my trade in 7 days later.How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
TimoMak said:
Thanks. This is very interesting to someone currently looking at the market (me). I always wondered whether the constant trashing of the 4 cylinder 718s on these forums was based on fact, or was mainly just disgruntled owners of the previous model misrepresenting their opinions as "facts" to preserve their resale values. Reading beyond the nonsense written on here seems very good advice indeed. Shame about the GFPs though.
How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
As I always say, don’t assume 981 owners dislike the 718 because they have a 981........many have a 981 because they dislike the 718, a subtle but very important difference in viewpoint ;-)..........now a 6 cylinder 718 is a different ballgame..........but what will that mean for 4 cylinder 718’s .........you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out........great if you like the 4 cylinder in a few years :-)How are the 718 resale values holding up ? Any owners care to comment ? I can't see much difference in dealer pricing as they all seem to hold their values very well, and is definitely a strong argument for PCPing a new one rather than used as 2nd hand values seem to stay insanely high.
tedblog said:
hixster said:
update from dealer today - Cayman 6 / Touring launching November/December apparently.
And apparently it will be a limited production run too akin to gt4/spyder Edited by hixster on Monday 9th September 19:08
996Targa said:
I was told November but not as GT4 etc restricted although I think all PCs have a limited number of slots for other models. To be called GTS 4 or 4.0 or Four.
The gt4 isnt restricted its a limited run which is around 2 years production. In 2021 the new model will arrive .Doesnt mean anything ref the 4 cylinder. It will cost double the base model . One of the reasons the gt4 and spyder is sort after is became of the 6 cylinder. If they flood the market with the 718 6 sort of steals their thunder? I reckon around the same numbers will be produced.
Edited by tedblog on Thursday 12th September 20:39
jonttt said:
As I always say, don’t assume 981 owners dislike the 718 because they have a 981........many have a 981 because they dislike the 718, a subtle but very important difference in viewpoint ;-)..........now a 6 cylinder 718 is a different ballgame..........but what will that mean for 4 cylinder 718’s .........you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out........great if you like the 4 cylinder in a few years :-)
What will happen then
neilf said:
I bought a base Boxster in 2014. Traded it in 2.5 years and 25k later for a base 718 Cayman. Pure coincidence, but I traded the 718 in 2.5 years and 25k miles later for a 718 T. Residuals almost identical, if not slightly better on the 718. There’s also a lot of chat on here about dealers being unable to shift 718s. OPC had sold my trade in 7 days later.
Thanks this is useful and in line with what I thought.jonttt said:
As I always say, don’t assume 981 owners dislike the 718 because they have a 981........many have a 981 because they dislike the 718, a subtle but very important difference in viewpoint ;-)..........now a 6 cylinder 718 is a different ballgame..........but what will that mean for 4 cylinder 718’s .........you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out........great if you like the 4 cylinder in a few years :-)
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