981 GT4 OPC prices increasing

[GEETEETHREERS]

Anyone else noticed this?

So I've been looking for a GT4 for a few weeks now and noticed one car increase by £4k and I'm pretty sure another increased by almost £3k. Is this normal?

The car which definitely increased is this one https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/Cayman-GT4-981...

It was £75k a week ago, I know because I sent a screen grab to a friend and decided that £75k for that spec was a bit strong...so I didn't bother enquiring.

I'm in no hurry to buy but are these things appreciating? Seems bizarre given the 718 will start arriving in weeks.

[Porsche911R]

I guess less cars so they can move prices.

wait till the last day in Sept and go and try and do a deal at the end of the 1/4.

there is a car near me at a Vauxhall garage !!! but looks VERY high spec inc PCCBs up for £79k I could go and have a look if you are serious.

it's not for sale on any sites, so might be the owners/managers !

some cars now are £69k and not selling, the issue is people are spec fussy in GT cars so the best cars sell for the best money, but there def are better cars for sale at £79k than that one.

[jcosh]

There were only 3 available via OPC’s a few week back and now there are 7. It seems the market has strengthened for them and prices do indeed seem to be higher at an average of £81k for those on the OPC site. I would guess those cars are sitting at about there original list price. Not sure why the increase, maybe people are realising the new car is not enough of an improvement over the original. Or just simple supply and demand? I know my local OPC sold 2 high specs ones recently and 3rd one didn’t even make it to the show room before being sold.

[jonnywalker46]

Ive noticed this myself. A friend bought a PTS car off market for £76k and already been offered 5k more

[GEETEETHREERS]

I agree spec definitely sells these, which is why I'm keen to get something with buckets, bi-xenons and PCM at the very least. There are some decent cars with the independents right now (Redline and Alexanders spring to mind) but I'd like the approved warranty for peace of mind.

I wonder if these increases in value are being reflected in trade in values? I suspect not.

[av185]

Buckets pcm and extended leather together with a good general spec are the must haves on a 981 GT4.

Clubsport and pccbs are needless imo and the market quite rightly commands little if any overall premium £.

[jcosh]

av185 said:

IN MY OPINION, buckets pcm and extended leather together with a good general spec are the must haves on a 981 GT4.

Clubsport and pccbs are needless imo and the market quite rightly commands little if any overall premium £.

Fixed that for you.

Be careful that you don't fall into the trap of another regular poster around here and confuse opinions with facts.

[Cheib]

GEETEETHREERS said:

I agree spec definitely sells these, which is why I'm keen to get something with buckets, bi-xenons and PCM at the very least. There are some decent cars with the independents right now (Redline and Alexanders spring to mind) but I'd like the approved warranty for peace of mind.

I wonder if these increases in value are being reflected in trade in values? I suspect not.

You can get the approved warranty put on the car post purchase. Or if you’re worried about it get the dealer to do it for you, would cost you though obviously.

[leemanning]

GEETEETHREERS said:

I agree spec definitely sells these, which is why I'm keen to get something with buckets, bi-xenons and PCM at the very least. There are some decent cars with the independents right now (Redline and Alexanders spring to mind) but I'd like the approved warranty for peace of mind.

I wonder if these increases in value are being reflected in trade in values? I suspect not.

The Sapphire GT4 at Alexanders is my old car. It is absolutely mint condition, with PPF and does have official Porsche warranty on it until Nov next year from memory.

If you want any info at all drop me a PM, but I honestly don't think you'd see one in a better condition

[av185]

jcosh said:

av185 said:

IN MY OPINION, buckets pcm and extended leather together with a good general spec are the must haves on a 981 GT4.

Clubsport and pccbs are needless imo and the market quite rightly commands little if any overall premium £.

Fixed that for you.

Be careful that you don't fall into the trap of another regular poster around here and confuse opinions with facts.

It's not just my opinion.

It's the markets opinion too.

And reflected in market prices.

[GT4RS]

981 gt4 prices don’t seem to of been effected as much a 991.2 gt3 for some reason, maybe because it still looks great value at 75k?

[av185]

GT4RS said:

981 gt4 prices don’t seem to of been effected as much a 991.2 gt3 for some reason, maybe because it still looks great value at 75k?

GT4 is an older and much less expensive car.

Don't forget that the 991.1 GT3 appreciated initially then dropped back towards list then appreciated again as the number of proper spec cars dwindled as the flippers moved on.

The 991.2 will inevitably follow the same path particularly if the 992 is mid £160ks as anticipated, Brexit surcharge dependent.

[Porsche911R]

GT4RS said:

981 gt4 prices don’t seem to of been effected as much a 991.2 gt3 for some reason, maybe because it still looks great value at 75k?

Much the reverse, it's making them look very expensive now at 4 years old and 20k miles.

Now’s the time to buy a supercar, f12, 600lt, lambo perf are the real value cars atm.

Also now GT3 have dropped £20k any one forking out for a 718GT4 must feel ill now the gaps closed a mighty amount.

Sorry to say atm Porsche all look the worse value cars on the market.

[av185]

Could well be the looming probable 10 % hard Brexit surcharge making a 718 GT4 with some spec early £90ks with a minimum £115k flip price is having the affect of supporting 981 residuals too.

[simon clark]

Clubsport does make a material difference to values, in my opinion, or at least the chances of a car selling for anywhere near it's advertised price. Rare cars, and in the real world, away from forum talk, cars that are actually changing hands reflect that.

PCCB is also super desirable.

And I say that as someone who doesn't own a GT4 anymore, sadly - great cars and built in as smaller numbers as the older GT3's

[GT4RS]

Porsche911R said:

GT4RS said:

981 gt4 prices don’t seem to of been effected as much a 991.2 gt3 for some reason, maybe because it still looks great value at 75k?

Much the reverse, it's making them look very expensive now at 4 years old and 20k miles.

Now’s the time to buy a supercar, f12, 600lt, lambo perf are the real value cars atm.

Also now GT3 have dropped £20k any one forking out for a 718GT4 must feel ill now the gaps closed a mighty amount.

Sorry to say atm Porsche all look the worse value cars on the market.

I would say the real value for money car at the moment is a 570s, it appears after a bit of haggling you may pick up a great 2017 car for less than 100k which is basically what a tidy spec 718 gt4 could cost you if this 10% no deal tax comes in!

Never looked at the values of a f12, 600lt or perf so wouldn’t know.

[GT4RS]

av185 said:

Could well be the looming probable 10 % hard Brexit surcharge making a 718 GT4 with some spec early £90ks with a minimum £115k flip price is having the affect of supporting 981 residuals too.

If the 10% kicks in the 718 gt4 will look expensive imo, which is a real shame as it’s designed to be a entry level gt car.

Will they really flip for 115k?

[Cheib]

GT4RS said:

981 gt4 prices don’t seem to of been effected as much a 991.2 gt3 for some reason, maybe because it still looks great value at 75k?

GT4 at it’s price point really is on it’s own though isn’t it ? If you don’t buy a GT4 what else do you buy that offers a similar drive ? 991.2 GT3 has got some serious competition from the likes of 720S which are now sub £160k. You could argue that the GT4 has competition from the 540/570 Mclaren’s but I am not sure someone spending £80k on a GT4 is necessarily going to want to buy a McLaren with the associated costs of running one....those costs are more palatable if you are spending £150k so think the 720S is much more likely alternative for a GT3 owner/buyer.

[tedblog]

A good old salesman trick
Price goes up and you say its was xxx a couple of weeks ago . If i did for that price sir would you buy it ?
Price goes up doesnt mean it will sell at that?
Eyeing up a new to me motorbike at the moment only 7 for sale in the uk .All top price and have been for a few months now. Went to see one one and few weeks ago and the salesman wouldnt budge . Salesman now chasing and offered 2k off to do the deal. So much for inflated prices.

Edited by tedblog on Tuesday 10th September 11:00

[av185]

simon clark said:

Clubsport does make a material difference to values, in my opinion, or at least the chances of a car selling for anywhere near it's advertised price. Rare cars, and in the real world, away from forum talk, cars that are actually changing hands reflect that.

PCCB is also super desirable.

And I say that as someone who doesn't own a GT4 anymore, sadly - great cars and built in as smaller numbers as the older GT3's

At best you would probably receive the option cost of the clubsport extra £ on a late low mileage car and whilst a few buyers may want it, the market will generally not pay the extra.

Similarly with pccbs the c£5k extra cost relative to the £65k car as a whole is huge and most buyers want steels particularly for track use due to the high replacement costs of ceramics.

This is in contrast to the 991.2 GT3 btw where clubsport and ceramics are a must for most buyers but clearly this is a dearer £ car.

Maybe ceramics would be relatively more desirable on a 718 GT4 with it being a more expensive car but I am speccing steels again on mine as they are perfectly adequate for the performance.

In terms of UK production numbers,

981 GT4 591
991.1 GT3 332
991.2 GT3 608 plus 43 Tourings