Premium Offered For My GT4

Premium Offered For My GT4

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NickUSA

615 posts

115 months

Friday 15th November
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Mad Scientist said:
That’s got to be the first car from whichever OPC that came from, so went to one of their “best” customers.

Rubbish spec though, so there might be a story.......or a reason...........

Or someone just specced it boggo to make a quick 10k.

Seems a bit silly really
It's only a matter of time before we (PH) work out what PC and which customer it was .....

GT4RS

1,991 posts

145 months

Friday 15th November
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olv said:
This is very disappointing to see, such a shame it never went to an enthusiast.

Imo the likes of Jzm only exist due to the overs market and SOR sales. Once they slows down they will struggle.

oo7ml

Original Poster:

191 posts

53 months

Friday 15th November
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Surely Porsche will know who owned that car, and simply kick them off their ‘exclusive’ list.

Rolex constantly seek out watches that have been flipped onto the market, and ban those customers from their ‘exclusive’ list.

I don’t understand why Porsche and other brands don’t create some form of a binding agreement / contract that prohibits this - i.e - you must own the car for a minimum of 12 months and must sell it back through Porsche at the market value. I know it sounds OTT but it would rule out a lot of interest from non enthusiasts.

Taffy66

3,080 posts

50 months

Friday 15th November
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oo7ml said:
Surely Porsche will know who owned that car, and simply kick them off their ‘exclusive’ list.

Rolex constantly seek out watches that have been flipped onto the market, and ban those customers from their ‘exclusive’ list.

I don’t understand why Porsche and other brands don’t create some form of a binding agreement / contract that prohibits this - i.e - you must own the car for a minimum of 12 months and must sell it back through Porsche at the market value. I know it sounds OTT but it would rule out a lot of interest from non enthusiasts.
Genuinely Porsche don't care two hoots if their good customers flip a GT Porsche for a quick profit..This is different to Ferrari who exclude anyone who flips one of their specials from getting another halo Ferrari..

Cheib

17,244 posts

123 months

Friday 15th November
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Taffy66 said:
Genuinely Porsche don't care two hoots if their good customers flip a GT Porsche for a quick profit..This is different to Ferrari who exclude anyone who flips one of their specials from getting another halo Ferrari..
I think the OPC’s care if it doesn’t come back to them...but agree I don’t think GB really care. If they did they could have stopped it long ago.

topboss

336 posts

201 months

Saturday 16th November
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GT4RS said:
This is very disappointing to see, such a shame it never went to an enthusiast.

Imo the likes of Jzm only exist due to the overs market and SOR sales. Once they slows down they will struggle.
JZM run a fantastic business. There’s far more to their business than just the overs market and SOR sales.

04BAP

19 posts

4 months

Saturday 16th November
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Porsche really doesn't give a stuff as they have a list of people who want the new GT4, they will full fill the order book this time around as it made a bad business mistake last time around and lets not forget they are a business, this time around I would be 99.9% sure I would get one if I placed a order, it might not be one of the first ones but at least they would be giving me the option to buy a new one at list which was not the case with the 981GT4, as for the overs market bring it on, the higher the mark up the better as this can only be good news for owners who bought at list and old GT4s, but would be very surprised if they reach the mark up level they did with the 981, the way I see it there is only 2 winners, the owner who wants to keep and enjoy and Porsche on the resale value as most will go back to them

Cheib

17,244 posts

123 months

Saturday 16th November
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Mad Scientist said:
That’s got to be the first car from whichever OPC that came from, so went to one of their “best” customers.

Rubbish spec though, so there might be a story.......or a reason...........

Or someone just specced it boggo to make a quick 10k.

Seems a bit silly really
Specced to make money....as you say the “owner” probably knew they were getting the first/and early car. Calculated gamble on someone paying a decent premium for it being one of the first available regardless of spec....so the most profitable flip.

WORRALL.

31 posts

38 months

Saturday 16th November
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Another black one being flipped already. Have a feeling it’s the one I was offered many months ago and they’re still trying to get £120k for it

https://performance28.com/collection/

NickUSA

615 posts

115 months

Saturday 16th November
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WORRALL. said:
Another black one being flipped already. Have a feeling it’s the one I was offered many months ago and they’re still trying to get £120k for it

https://performance28.com/collection/
Spec comes in at £97K, with the OTR just shy of £100K, places this at £20K over list ..... gits!!

Twinfan

4,194 posts

52 months

Saturday 16th November
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Nice spec that, cool car. £20k over list is mental though, I can't see it selling at that. Too close to the 991.2 GT3.

NickUSA

615 posts

115 months

Saturday 16th November
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NickUSA said:
Mad Scientist said:
That’s got to be the first car from whichever OPC that came from, so went to one of their “best” customers.

Rubbish spec though, so there might be a story.......or a reason...........

Or someone just specced it boggo to make a quick 10k.

Seems a bit silly really
It's only a matter of time before we (PH) work out what PC and which customer it was .....
12.4 miles on the clock .... want to take a punt on where this came from

cossers

1,779 posts

88 months

Saturday 16th November
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Don’t wish to offend but the only ones that are idiots are the ones that buy them at 15/20k over list, they alone allow this to continue! Wouldn’t be so many lining up to hand their money over if they were still ‘stuck’ with the car a year later.

av185

9,628 posts

75 months

Saturday 16th November
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TDT said:
15k That puts it @90K minimum + spec.

It doesn't have extended leather or stitching. Not a Clubsport and no PCCB.
Can't tell on the seats - purposefully not shown in the pics released so far.

But @ 90K for 'poverty spec' that's a gap back to a 981.

I'm sure AV185 will be along shortly to give us the market update. lol.


Edited by TDT on Friday 15th November 18:24
As opposed to TDT spouting drivel about spec and prices which he claims bores him rigid lol.

av185

9,628 posts

75 months

Saturday 16th November
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Twinfan said:
Nice spec that, cool car. £20k over list is mental though, I can't see it selling at that. Too close to the 991.2 GT3.
Initial predictions last year were between £115k and £120k though for the first good spec flippers.

Always problematic comparing new with older car prices on different models apples and pears.

TDT

1,781 posts

67 months

Saturday 16th November
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av185 said:
TDT said:
15k That puts it @90K minimum + spec.

It doesn't have extended leather or stitching. Not a Clubsport and no PCCB.
Can't tell on the seats - purposefully not shown in the pics released so far.

But @ 90K for 'poverty spec' that's a gap back to a 981.

I'm sure AV185 will be along shortly to give us the market update. lol.


Edited by TDT on Friday 15th November 18:24
As opposed to TDT spouting drivel about spec and prices which he claims bores him rigid lol.
Thing is AV185 - I post about driving my car, trackdays and experiences significantly more than about spec and values... which is ALL you post about.
Pick a fight with a different person.
You don’t want this smoke.



Twinfan

4,194 posts

52 months

Saturday 16th November
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av185 said:
Initial predictions last year were between £115k and £120k though for the first good spec flippers.

Always problematic comparing new with older car prices on different models apples and pears.
True, but are people really going to pay 991.2 GT3 money for a 718 GT4? If so, that's just bonkers.

av185

9,628 posts

75 months

Sunday 17th November
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TDT said:
Thing is AV185 - I post about driving my car, trackdays and experiences significantly more than about spec and values... which is ALL you post about.
Presumably in your incorrect assertion you are excluding all the posts I make about my driving experiences and car comparisons.

Thought so.

As previously mentioned it IS possible to post about several different aspects involving the cars, from experience, including values etc.

And this is a values thread btw.

av185

9,628 posts

75 months

Sunday 17th November
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Twinfan said:
av185 said:
Initial predictions last year were between £115k and £120k though for the first good spec flippers.

Always problematic comparing new with older car prices on different models apples and pears.
True, but are people really going to pay 991.2 GT3 money for a 718 GT4? If so, that's just bonkers.
No T, but there will always be those who will be prepared to pay hefty premiums for the latest shiny new bauble as previous initial prices of flipped GT Porsches have shown time and time again.

Porsche guy

2,759 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th November
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GT4RS said:
olv said:
This is very disappointing to see, such a shame it never went to an enthusiast.
+1