718 GTS 4.0…

[130R]

Twinfan said:

That doesn't sound right. Spec lock down is usually around 2 months prior to build...

That's what I thought. I think they meant to say March ..

[Twinfan]

Yep, that would be better!

[Wollemi]

pgamble said:

Yes, you guessed it. I changed the order to GT Silver. ..... 10mm PASM because I'm scared of speed bumps (yes, I know), I'm not sure £830 for a Bose would be a big enough difference (I'm a hifi fanatic at home, but this doesn't seem like value unless it is bloody good and I hear it isn't).

I too was going for Carmine Red from how it looked on the configurator, but was hugely disappointed when I saw it in real life. Gentian blue looks great under the lights but dull in daylight - so unlike sapphire blue which looks lovely in any light but not available. Agate is too dark (current car is meteor gray, much nicer). I can't stand crayon, guards you,d have to clean and my wife doesn't like it.
We were also going to go for GT silver, classic, looks good in most lights but have been brave and gone for Adventurine Green. We love it.

But you really do not need the -10mm PASM comfort option. I had a GTS with -20mm PASM on loan for a couple of days and tried it over the worst speed humps I could find and there was no problem at all. The chassis is so good with the 20mm drop that I'd be concerned about losing anything of that excellence.

Try to get your OPC to let you try one out

I too am a bit of a hi-fi fanatic, and normally wouldn't go anywhere near anything made by Bose. however we thought the surround sound processing from the Bose in the loan car did make the music reproduction more effective; although still a long way from anything that you could consider "hi-fi".

[Danpunch]

I too was set on Carmine until I saw it on an overcast day and thought it was quite dull. That said, it looks cracking in the sunshine. I sometimes think the same about Crayon which is what i might end up going for. My thought is that the colour options are a little underwhelming for the type of car. While Miami Blue looks great on a GT car, it's a little too much for me but I do want something a bit different considering the rarity of these things. That's why i'm considering Orange. It's a big decision but it really looks great in the flesh with the 'right' wheels.

[cardigankid]

RichDS said:

Thoughts on my attempt? Have had confirmation of allocation if I want it (still undecided).
Very much as per my own needs, the main question mark is on the interior. Have tried to brighten it up but is it a bit povo?

https://cc.porsche.com/icc/ccCall.do?userID=EG&amp...

Thanks -

Smokers Pack - I get it, much tidier
Lighting Design Pack - what is the point of this? I noted however that you can't have leather sun visors unless you spec LDP.
Power Steering Plus - does that not just make it easier at slow speeds? I doubt if you need help parking
Homelink - is that just a garage door opener?
Lane Change Assist - Surely you just check the mirror? Nice to have of course. If you don't check the mirror I guess you could be headed for an accident at some point though I hope not
Fire Extinguisher? - looks cool and you can use it on your passenger when they use the smokers pack
Red Chrono Face - this is going to look garish - to me all the dials should be the same colour - black or white
Leather details - is it worth having the trims leather if your dash is plastic? £1242 gets you full leather interior while retaining the Alcantara bits.
Just IMHO, but the painted interior details look st hot with Guards Red

Two things cars ought to have -
Downward facing lights to illuminate kerbs when parking at night
Facility to watch people round the car remotely from the cameras, and tell them to f--k off as necessary

All Porsche colours look good if they are clean, and bad if they are dirty. You won't pick a colour that looks good dirty.

[Al_Ra]

Wollemi said:

But you really do not need the -10mm PASM comfort option. I had a GTS with -20mm PASM on loan for a couple of days and tried it over the worst speed humps I could find and there was no problem at all. The chassis is so good with the 20mm drop that I'd be concerned about losing anything of that excellence.

This is my final area of spec deliberation - I've so far opted for -10mm PASM because I don't intend to track the car and there are some pretty steep speed bumps on some of my usual routes and I don't want to be permanently paranoid of scraping. However, several of the reviews (admittedly on track) have noticed a marked difference in handling with the -20mm SPASM. I wonder if this is something I would regret not going with. Anyone else with experience of 718 GTS with SPASM and bumps/ramps?

Edited by Al_Ra on Tuesday 3rd March 18:20

[bcr5784]

cardigankid said:

Thanks -

Power Steering Plus - does that not just make it easier at slow speeds? I doubt if you need help parking


All Porsche colours look good if they are clean, and bad if they are dirty. You won't pick a colour that looks good dirty.

I personally like PSP. You're right the steering isn't that heavy parking - but the car does feel heavy when negotiating tight roundabouts. PSP makes the car feel more agile in those conditions.

Can't agree on colours - my black car was a complete PITA. Might have been OK if the car was a weekend fun car - not when it was a daily.

[Wollemi]

Al_Ra said:

This is my final area of spec deliberation - I've so far opted for -10mm PASM because I don't intend to track the car and there are some pretty steep speed bumps on some of my usual routes and I don't want to be permanently paranoid of scraping. However, several of the reviews (admittedly on track) have noticed a marked difference in handling with the -20mm SPASM. I wonder if this is something I would regret not going with. Anyone else with experience of 718 GTS with SPASM and bumps/ramps?

Edited by Al_Ra on Tuesday 3rd March 18:20

A friend who has a 718 F4T GTS with -20mm PASM reports no ground clearance problems at all, it copes fine with speed bumps.

As I said earlier, I deliberately tried to catch the test drive car out and no problems. Best to get a test drive yourself and try it on your usual routes.

[neilf]

Wollemi said:

Al_Ra said:

This is my final area of spec deliberation - I've so far opted for -10mm PASM because I don't intend to track the car and there are some pretty steep speed bumps on some of my usual routes and I don't want to be permanently paranoid of scraping. However, several of the reviews (admittedly on track) have noticed a marked difference in handling with the -20mm SPASM. I wonder if this is something I would regret not going with. Anyone else with experience of 718 GTS with SPASM and bumps/ramps?

Edited by Al_Ra on Tuesday 3rd March 18:20

A friend who has a 718 F4T GTS with -20mm PASM reports no ground clearance problems at all, it copes fine with speed bumps.

As I said earlier, I deliberately tried to catch the test drive car out and no problems. Best to get a test drive yourself and try it on your usual routes.

I second this. My 718 T has the 20mm drop. It’s my DD and I haven’t had any clearance issues in 5,500 miles.

[Al_Ra]

neilf said:

Wollemi said:

A friend who has a 718 F4T GTS with -20mm PASM reports no ground clearance problems at all, it copes fine with speed bumps.

As I said earlier, I deliberately tried to catch the test drive car out and no problems. Best to get a test drive yourself and try it on your usual routes.

I second this. My 718 T has the 20mm drop. It’s my DD and I haven’t had any clearance issues in 5,500 miles.

Thanks both. That's helpful and reassuring. Spec changed for now and will be on to OPC for longer test with a F4T GTS -20mm to verify.

[Wollemi]

Does any one have any knowledge or information about the tyres fitted to the GTS4.0. What are the approved tyres for this model or are they just the same as the turbo GTS?

All the launch road tests from Portugal mentioned being on Pirelli P-Zero tyres, presumably the N1 fitments that most F4T GTS's come with.

But I understand that some F4TGTS's do come on N0 Michelin PS4S which as a much better tyre than the the P-Zero.

Is there anyway to specify which tyre your car comes with?

[mr momo]

bcr5784 said:

mr momo said:

Evenin'

1st post in here - go easy on me....

Has anybody here tested/driven a GTS 4.0 ?
This is the first new Porsche I've ever driven. The 2.5 GTS engine was underwhelming, so how have you convinced yourself to go with the 4.0 if you haven't driven ?

Because the normally aspirated flat 6 is a more-or-less known quantity. People who liked the 3.4 or 3.8 engines are very likely to like the 4.0. The only real question is whether the particulate filter has muted to sound to the point where it is no longer as attractive as it was.

Thanks - I'm going to drive a previous gen flat 6 this weekend at a nearby OPC (their suggestion), just to get the sense of sound/nat. aspirated torque.

[Twinfan]

Wollemi said:

Is there anyway to specify which tyre your car comes with?

Nope, it's luck of the draw.

[shost]

Wollemi said:

Firstly what’s wrong with mature? You can want a GTS for its wonderful engine and fabulous chassis yet still want it to look dignified and classic Porsche. Adventurine Green does just that, and looks rather wonderful in real life compared to photos.

I would say that; it’s what we have just decided on as our final spec which locks down in a few days.

Although if it is mature it will be the only mature thing about me, I may be rather old but I’m still silly.

I’m still thinking Aventurine is way forward. I’m relatively young despite grey hair, but do prefer the subtle look. You can always spice up a dull suit with a few choice accessories so maybe I’ll be convinced to add something else to the exterior. That said my exes Graphite Blue 718 which she took with her... was great for looking fairly incognito before ripping your face off.

https://youtu.be/9TWUiZEaWBA

Happens to look roughly like my spec and not put off by it.

[Danpunch]

shost said:

I’m still thinking Aventurine is way forward. I’m relatively young despite grey hair, but do prefer the subtle look. You can always spice up a dull suit with a few choice accessories so maybe I’ll be convinced to add something else to the exterior. That said my exes Graphite Blue 718 which she took with her... was great for looking fairly incognito before ripping your face off.

https://youtu.be/9TWUiZEaWBA

Happens to look roughly like my spec and not put off by it.

I think that looks smart especially with the high gloss bits.

[cardigankid]

Aventurine Green is a very very good looking colour indeed.

[Wollemi]

Just musing on the subject of tyres, in my earlier post I repeated the oft received wisdom that the Michelin PS4S N0 is a much superior tyre to the Pirelli P-Zero N1.

If this is the case, why is it that the GTS4.0 cars for the journalists to drive at the launch were all shod with P-Zeros?

Surely Porsche would want the new car to be as impressive as possible, why send it to be reviewed on inferior tyres?

Or is the P-Zero N1 better than is supposed?

Thoughts anyone?

[130R]

Wollemi said:

Just musing on the subject of tyres, in my earlier post I repeated the oft received wisdom that the Michelin PS4S N0 is a much superior tyre to the Pirelli P-Zero N1.

If this is the case, why is it that the GTS4.0 cars for the journalists to drive at the launch were all shod with P-Zeros?

Surely Porsche would want the new car to be as impressive as possible, why send it to be reviewed on inferior tyres?

Or is the P-Zero N1 better than is supposed?

Thoughts anyone?

I've had both fitted. The PS4S is a much better tyre. The P-Zero is good in hot, dry weather, but the PS4S is completely different league in any other conditions (especially this time of year for example).

[RichDS]

Danpunch said:

shost said:

I’m still thinking Aventurine is way forward. I’m relatively young despite grey hair, but do prefer the subtle look. You can always spice up a dull suit with a few choice accessories so maybe I’ll be convinced to add something else to the exterior. That said my exes Graphite Blue 718 which she took with her... was great for looking fairly incognito before ripping your face off.

https://youtu.be/9TWUiZEaWBA

Happens to look roughly like my spec and not put off by it.

I think that looks smart especially with the high gloss bits.

Great find that video - conscious that they all look extra shines under the dealers lights when spotless!

Not my personal taste I don’t think, I would probably prefer silver if going for a more classic spec.

[RichDS]

cardigankid said:

RichDS said:

Thoughts on my attempt? Have had confirmation of allocation if I want it (still undecided).
Very much as per my own needs, the main question mark is on the interior. Have tried to brighten it up but is it a bit povo?

https://cc.porsche.com/icc/ccCall.do?userID=EG&amp...

Thanks -

Smokers Pack - I get it, much tidier
Lighting Design Pack - what is the point of this? I noted however that you can't have leather sun visors unless you spec LDP.
Power Steering Plus - does that not just make it easier at slow speeds? I doubt if you need help parking
Homelink - is that just a garage door opener?
Lane Change Assist - Surely you just check the mirror? Nice to have of course. If you don't check the mirror I guess you could be headed for an accident at some point though I hope not
Fire Extinguisher? - looks cool and you can use it on your passenger when they use the smokers pack
Red Chrono Face - this is going to look garish - to me all the dials should be the same colour - black or white
Leather details - is it worth having the trims leather if your dash is plastic? £1242 gets you full leather interior while retaining the Alcantara bits.
Just IMHO, but the painted interior details look st hot with Guards Red

Two things cars ought to have -
Downward facing lights to illuminate kerbs when parking at night
Facility to watch people round the car remotely from the cameras, and tell them to f--k off as necessary

All Porsche colours look good if they are clean, and bad if they are dirty. You won't pick a colour that looks good dirty.

Thanks for your comments, have subsequently updated a couple of things to give:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PLMK4EW4

Comments as follows:
Weekend car only and I do keep em clean! like guards but this could change to a less bold metallic.

Light Design - cheap option and the first time the Mrs opens the sun visor and it doesn’t light up there will be moaning-this is the only light in the package I’m bothered about!

Power steering - also for benefit of Mrs / also cheap

Lane change - I have a bad neck and this is for peace of mind / blind spot rather than to replace looking and mirrors

Have added the leather at at £1242 and done away with the other bits

All in all a couple hundred quid saved!!