12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing (Vol. 2)

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing (Vol. 2)

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Wilmslowboy

4,189 posts

205 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Andyoz said:
I still think that's a solid price considering what's going on ATM
Average advertised price April 2019 was £81k, with the better ones at £86k (I scrolled back through this thread to check).


This makes this £20k behind the values this time last year - 23% depreciation in a year.




ChrisW.

6,210 posts

254 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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bomster said:
Let's do that biggrin , I'll keep an eye out for dates and report back if and when.

Yeah it was the combination of Coram's reputation and the 987's for oil starvation that put me off tracking the Cayman!
I'll also keep my eyes open ... I may ask Snetterton to let me know ...

Andyoz

2,887 posts

53 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Twinfan said:
Depends what it actually sold for!
Exactly, but selling within a day to me suggest not alot of haggle going on.

ChrisW.

6,210 posts

254 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Porsche911R said:
great track buy that, NO PCM or even a radio.

but a nice project track hack.

these are starting to look good value again sub £60k with less than 10k miles.
Particularly when you think how inexpensively the biggest gains can be found .... and all reversible ...

David, if you were going to spend £5k on a 981GT4, how would you spend it ?

Andyoz

2,887 posts

53 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Wilmslowboy said:
Average advertised price April 2019 was £81k, with the better ones at £86k (I scrolled back through this thread to check).


This makes this £20k behind the values this time last year - 23% depreciation in a year.
True, but with the PCM and radio 'issue' I guess take £5k of those prices and average 2019 values don't really mean much now IMO.

I think Ashgood's have caught the market napping and some 'better' spec ones may well be lucky to fetch similar money the second half of 2020.

TDT

4,910 posts

118 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Wilmslowboy said:
Average advertised price April 2019 was £81k, with the better ones at £86k (I scrolled back through this thread to check).


This makes this £20k behind the values this time last year - 23% depreciation in a year.
Don't think that quite right...you need direct comparables, like for like... and not just the average market prices.. else you can make the numbers say whatever you like.
The only thing this car really had going for it was the low mileage.
Its not track spec out of the box, as it's not clubsport, and then as first thing you'd probably need to do, if you want to run on track a lot, is ditch the PCCBs for something more cost effective.

This time last year - that car may have been low to mid 70k at best.... in fact you'll find that loads of cars with more congruent options - ie typical track spec or typical road spec, with average mileage..i.e used... would have been easy mid 70's asking price... highest specced combined with low miles would have been into the £80's.
This car isn't one of those...it had 2 expensive options... Buckets and PCCB.
I don't think this car went for full asking... so if this car last year was £72k and this year its gone for £63k, then thats 9k...not 20k.

Still, it's a clean example for someone to paint their expression upon, congrats.

Edited by TDT on Friday 17th April 13:33

Andyoz

2,887 posts

53 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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I still think the fact there is no central screen on it made one or two buyers jump at it and jump really hard and fast (also the low miles obviously).

I had no idea you could spec it like that TBH biggrin

It's basically an engine, suspension, seats, pedals and steering wheel.

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Twinfan said:
Wilmslowboy said:
Hands free phone can be quite useful, I'm guessing no radio means no speakers, perhaps even no wiring ??
Nope, I suspect there'll be nothing relating to the PCM fitted to the car.
So not economical to retrofit. What would the PCM and speakers weigh? 8kg?

woollyjoe

1,328 posts

118 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Ashgoods have always been good on prices. I’ve seen them sell other GT4s at this time for more. So i suspect the car needed to go quickly.

That looks easily a £75k list price car and doubt it has any services. I think £66k is low.

The GT silver, ceramics, leather, (and yellow stitching) and buckets all present. I think the buyer has got the Porsche deal of the year.

Andyoz

2,887 posts

53 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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I suspect the GT4 owner wants a completely 'offline' driving experience....no PCM...no radio....no mobile.

I know I don't need sat nav for my drives as I've already got my route planned out. If I get lost, a quick look at phone to get back on track. Getting lost used to be fun BTW. Anything to avoid a centre console screen.

Would be different for a daily driver but not many GT4's are.

As long as the fan blows some hot or ambient temperature air the driver will survive...

I agree with above and think the buyers got a great deal.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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If it hasn't had the two services it should have had then it probably can't get an extended warranty now or in the future? That, along with the spec, must make the potential buyer pool pretty small.

Someone must have really wanted that car.

Essential

1,077 posts

209 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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It’s a 2016 /16 car second service is due between now and September 1st?

Even if not done Porsche are giving a years grace on servicing / warranty whilst closed due to covid 19 it was reported on here ?


TDT

4,910 posts

118 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Twinfan said:
If it hasn't had the two services it should have had then it probably can't get an extended warranty now or in the future? That, along with the spec, must make the potential buyer pool pretty small.

Someone must have really wanted that car.
Given the mileage… probably would be easy to get extended warranty.
I think the criteria to get it back in is to own for 6months and service at OPC… and get all the checks done.
Also there is the Covid-19 extension for servicing.

Essential said:
It’s a 2016 /16 car second service is due between now and September 1st?

Even if not done Porsche are giving a years grace on servicing / warranty whilst closed due to covid 19 it was reported on here ?
Correct

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

264 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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ChrisW. said:
David, if you were going to spend £5k on a 981GT4, how would you spend it ?
bit of a tight spend, I would want adjustable toe links, a full geo, manifolds, with a remap and dsc.

Really it’s £8k for the full 430bhp
Set 2 piece disks and better pads.
Dsc module, or ttx shocks.
And the stage 2 RSS kit with full geo.
Bbs wheels
Bbi wing risers.
Lite blox battery
Set of light weight seats.
Lightweight FW

For £5k what would you do after knowing what you know on yours.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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TDT said:
Given the mileage… probably would be easy to get extended warranty.
I think the criteria to get it back in is to own for 6months and service at OPC… and get all the checks done.
Isn't it 3 months? Having missed the 2 year service might be an issue though, the rule you quote is for servicing outside the OPC network?

woollyjoe

1,328 posts

118 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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Porsche will simply require a major service and 111 point check.

I’ve been through it on a very low mileage 997.2 with no OPC service history ever. Getting a warranty will be fine.

Sandy59

2,706 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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Porsche911R said:
bit of a tight spend, I would want adjustable toe links, a full geo, manifolds, with a remap and dsc.

Really it’s £8k for the full 430bhp
Set 2 piece disks and better pads.
Dsc module, or ttx shocks.
And the stage 2 RSS kit with full geo.
Bbs wheels
Bbi wing risers.
Lite blox battery
Set of light weight seats.
Lightweight FW

For £5k what would you do after knowing what you know on yours.
Sounds to me what might be interesting, would be some sort of equivalent Manthey K400 kit that was available on the 996 GT3, ie something proven, standardised and recognised ??
I could see me maybe being up for that.

CorrosionInhibitor

375 posts

96 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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A good cheap mod would be the GT4 Schroth set of Harness in the classifieds

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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woollyjoe said:
Porsche will simply require a major service and 111 point check.

I’ve been through it on a very low mileage 997.2 with no OPC service history ever. Getting a warranty will be fine.
Even with no service history at all, not just no OPC servicing? The car potentially hasn't had an oil change in 4 years and has been sat in a garage.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

103 months

Saturday 18th April 2020
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CorrosionInhibitor said:
A good cheap mod would be the GT4 Schroth set of Harness in the classifieds
They're designed to fit a Clubsport car which has the appropriate mountings in the firewall and chassis. I don't think you can fit them to a non-CS car easily, you'd be better off buying a harness bar and appropriate matching harnesses.