718 GT4 UK Allocations

718 GT4 UK Allocations

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SeaBox

85 posts

174 months

Saturday 3rd September
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Probably a lot of price corrections due across the entire market with peoples finances coming under other pressure. However in the case of the 718 GT4, at rrp it still represents great value when you’re getting a truly sorted, well regarded GT car with a few choice options for less than the price of a base 992 with no options. I was happy to get an allocation, haven’t had to jump through any hoops with the dealer and fully intend to enjoy the car, life’s too short to worry about whether it’s up or down this week. It’s an amazing car, built to be enjoyed, it’s not a pension plan or the FTSE.

donutskidmark

1,016 posts

135 months

Saturday 3rd September
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To be fair on the Porsche website in the entire OPC network there are only 9 available 718 GT4’s showing with PDK -which could hardly be considered a flooded market.

julian987R

4,530 posts

41 months

Saturday 3rd September
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donutskidmark said:
To be fair on the Porsche website in the entire OPC network there are only 9 available 718 GT4’s showing with PDK -which could hardly be considered a flooded market.
There are therefore 9 with full warranty status on OPC forecourts and another 81 with full warranty status on non-OPC forecourts. Does it make any difference?

donutskidmark

1,016 posts

135 months

Sunday 4th September
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julian987R said:
donutskidmark said:
To be fair on the Porsche website in the entire OPC network there are only 9 available 718 GT4’s showing with PDK -which could hardly be considered a flooded market.
There are therefore 9 with full warranty status on OPC forecourts and another 81 with full warranty status on non-OPC forecourts. Does it make any difference?
On Autotrader there are 20 available cars with pdk, 5 of those are repeats from the 9 in the OPC network…..
Personally I’d only want a pdk car with buckets, ceramic brakes, and not in a boring colour-
this spec alone would mean most of the cars could be discounted.
Actually I couldn’t care less how many cars there are so I’m unsure why I’ve bothered replying to you.

GT4RS

3,025 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th September
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Like another poster said, as peoples finances come under pressure some of these cars will get off loaded. I believe we are already starting to slowly see this. The difficulty the 718 gt4 will face is they are still manufacturing them and allocations are available. As 718 gt4 prices get pushed down 981 gt4 prices will get pushed down.




kmpowell

2,411 posts

210 months

Sunday 4th September
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donutskidmark said:
To be fair on the Porsche website in the entire OPC network there are only 9 available 718 GT4’s showing with PDK -which could hardly be considered a flooded market.
Nail on the head. If you want a PDK there are 9... if you want a PDK with buckets there are only 2... if you want a PDK buckets and the extended leather dash, there's only 1! The same % split when you rock onto Auto trader and start filtering, there are only a handful of cars.

GT4's have in the main been quite spec sensitive when it comes to price, but less so because they were all manual, then PDK started appearing. I remember before ordering my car last year I was watching the used market and certain cars were hanging around for ages even though they were 'cheap'. Those cars didn't have one or more PDLS+, Buckets, extended leather, Chrono etc. which are pretty much all the 'desired' options outside of the desired 'track' items (Clubsport). Add in that some of these cars are now 3 years old and have milage on them, add in private v independent v OPC, throw PDK into the mix and there are now so many levels of cars which means multiple different price brackets v availability.

There will be people who will come out and say "I don't want buckets" or "not having LED's doesn't bother me", but in the main it's cars with those options which are higher priced and they are the cars which are selling. Romans have had a 71 plate PDK car with buckets up at £105k for little under 2 weeks, that went under offer yesterday.

There will always be anomalies with odd specced cars, but for me market is simply adapting to all the variables above and reacting accordingly, IMO there is no sweeping 'correction'. And as for JayEmm's comments, well as somebody who has recently bought a new GT4 I take them with a pinch of salt because what he says goes against everything I experienced and/or witnessed from other purchasers (some of which are not on PH). Porsche are not going to willingly let the GT4 market collapse because they have so much RV tied up in it they can't afford too.

For me though I couldn't care less, when I turn the key and that flat 6 fires up it's enough for me to be more than comfortable with what I've spent. When I drive it and get the grin and emotion, it's more than enough for me to be comfortable with what I've spent.

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 4th September 10:54

tyrrell

1,629 posts

190 months

Sunday 4th September
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kmpowell said:
donutskidmark said:
To be fair on the Porsche website in the entire OPC network there are only 9 available 718 GT4’s showing with PDK -which could hardly be considered a flooded market.
Nail on the head. If you want a PDK there are 9... if you want a PDK with buckets there are only 2... if you want a PDK buckets and the extended leather dash, there's only 1! The same % split when you rock onto Auto trader and start filtering, there are only a handful of cars.

GT4's have in the main been quite spec sensitive when it comes to price, but less so because they were all manual, then PDK started appearing. I remember before ordering my car last year I was watching the used market and certain cars were hanging around for ages even though they were 'cheap'. Those cars didn't have one or more PDLS+, Buckets, extended leather, Chrono etc. which are pretty much all the 'desired' options outside of the desired 'track' items (Clubsport). Add in that some of these cars are now 3 years old and have milage on them, add in private v independent v OPC, throw PDK into the mix and there are now so many levels of cars which means multiple different price brackets v availability.

There will be people who will come out and say "I don't want buckets" or "not having LED's doesn't bother me", but in the main it's cars with those options which are higher priced and they are the cars which are selling. Romans have had a 71 plate PDK car with buckets for little under 2 weeks, that went under offer yesterday

There will always be anomalies with odd specced cars, but for me market is simply adapting to all the variables above and reacting accordingly, IMO there is no sweeping 'correction'. And as for JayEmm's comments, well as somebody who has recently bought a new GT4 I take them with a pinch of salt because what he says goes against everything I experienced and/or witnessed from other purchasers (some of which are not on PH). Porsche are not going to willingly let the GT4 market collapse because they have so much RV tied up in it they can't afford too.

For me though I couldn't care less, when I turn the key and that flat 6 fires up it's enough for me to be more than comfortable with what I've spent. When I drive it and get the grin and emotion, it's more than enough for me to be comfortable with what I've spent.

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 4th September 09:55
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VH02 AML

70 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th September
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GT4RS said:
Like another poster said, as peoples finances come under pressure some of these cars will get off loaded. I believe we are already starting to slowly see this. The difficulty the 718 gt4 will face is they are still manufacturing them and allocations are available. As 718 gt4 prices get pushed down 981 gt4 prices will get pushed down.
Is it still possible to get an allocation? I thought they would still be fully allocated to the ‘special’ customers? I gave up asking after the way my dealer acted with the 981 GT4 allocations.

Redline88

242 posts

88 months

Sunday 4th September
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VH02 AML said:
GT4RS said:
Like another poster said, as peoples finances come under pressure some of these cars will get off loaded. I believe we are already starting to slowly see this. The difficulty the 718 gt4 will face is they are still manufacturing them and allocations are available. As 718 gt4 prices get pushed down 981 gt4 prices will get pushed down.
Is it still possible to get an allocation? I thought they would still be fully allocated to the ‘special’ customers? I gave up asking after the way my dealer acted with the 981 GT4 allocations.
I tried several dealers recently - some definitely friendlier than others but the general consensus was that I wouldn’t get a slot. Some said that was due to no pre-existing relationship (certainly not the case for all as some have secured an allocation with no prior buying history). Others stated that they had been advised there would be no further allocations due to the GT4 RS production. In the end I’ve gone for a used example which I can’t wait to pick up this week!

GT4RS

3,025 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th September
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VH02 AML said:
GT4RS said:
Like another poster said, as peoples finances come under pressure some of these cars will get off loaded. I believe we are already starting to slowly see this. The difficulty the 718 gt4 will face is they are still manufacturing them and allocations are available. As 718 gt4 prices get pushed down 981 gt4 prices will get pushed down.

I asked in November for a car, 2021 mine landed early March 2022.

It was actually my second 718 gt4 allocation, I opted not to take the first one as it wasn’t the right time for me personally.

Porsche at the moment are making cars which return them the maximum profit, A 95k cayman GT4 returns them very good profit, they will make as many as they can.

They will do the same with the GTS models
Is it still possible to get an allocation? I thought they would still be fully allocated to the ‘special’ customers? I gave up asking after the way my dealer acted with the 981 GT4 allocations.

J Chitty

84 posts

125 months

Sunday 4th September
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You may find a dealer willing to put you on a list providing its not too long, this would be on the proviso that there is no guarantee Porsche will still be producing the vehicle if you reach the front of the queue.
You cannot say Porsche haven’t tried to meet demand for the car as AP stated as there has been a larger production. It will stop and being the last ICE cayman, you either get on the bandwagon or not. I’d love to swap mine for a 991.2 GT3 but happy to get some more miles on my GT4 with my current situation.

av185

16,339 posts

109 months

Monday 5th September
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Redline88 said:
VH02 AML said:
GT4RS said:
Like another poster said, as peoples finances come under pressure some of these cars will get off loaded. I believe we are already starting to slowly see this. The difficulty the 718 gt4 will face is they are still manufacturing them and allocations are available. As 718 gt4 prices get pushed down 981 gt4 prices will get pushed down.
Is it still possible to get an allocation? I thought they would still be fully allocated to the ‘special’ customers? I gave up asking after the way my dealer acted with the 981 GT4 allocations.
I tried several dealers recently - some definitely friendlier than others but the general consensus was that I wouldn’t get a slot. Some said that was due to no pre-existing relationship (certainly not the case for all as some have secured an allocation with no prior buying history). Others stated that they had been advised there would be no further allocations due to the GT4 RS production. In the end I’ve gone for a used example which I can’t wait to pick up this week!
This accurately sums up the realistic current situation regarding difficulties in obtaining build slots approaching GT4 production ending and contradicts the obvious bullst spouted by the usual third rate u tubers who clearly know nothing about the cars.

If they were that freely available this poster would have clearly been able to receive a build slot.

Congratulations on your recent purchase they are great cars at the money and residually will prove to be a smart purchase, history proving with the 981 there will be very little downward pressure on prices especially with the recent large price increases of new cars and continuing price rises in the future.

Edited by av185 on Monday 5th September 07:34

mrCraigyC

39 posts

143 months

Tuesday 6th September
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Got it … 53 weeks after paying a deposit! PDK is awesome and it sounds louder than my previous 2020 GT4 manual. Love it!


kmpowell

2,411 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th September
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mrCraigyC said:
Got it … 53 weeks after paying a deposit! PDK is awesome and it sounds louder than my previous 2020 GT4 manual. Love it!
Congrats, looks great. Nice to see somebody else who was in a similar position to me, finally get their car. Hope the OPC made it a special handover for you.

The PDK really is sublime isn't it, totally transforms the car/engine and brings it alive. When I test drove them back to back the PDK felt more 'urgent' and 'on it'. As for the sound, I've read on Rennlist that cars built from mid 2021 onwards have a different OPF arrangement, with adaptions taken from the 992 GT3, which makes the car louder. There's a UK video I watched of a comparison between a 2019 and 2021 car and the difference was certainly noticeable.

smile

sam_jw

120 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th September
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mrCraigyC said:
Got it … 53 weeks after paying a deposit! PDK is awesome and it sounds louder than my previous 2020 GT4 manual. Love it!

Looks amazing, congratulations! Good to hear about the sound too.

I'm waiting on a Shark Blue myself and that pic has reassured me.

Redline88

242 posts

88 months

Wednesday 7th September
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As mentioned before, I tried to get a build slot but without any luck I went down the approved used route. Picked it up yesterday and really happy with the new toy!

SpyderMatt

159 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th September
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sam_jw said:
mrCraigyC said:
Got it … 53 weeks after paying a deposit! PDK is awesome and it sounds louder than my previous 2020 GT4 manual. Love it!

Looks amazing, congratulations! Good to hear about the sound too.

I'm waiting on a Shark Blue myself and that pic has reassured me.
Best colour out there (tap on the photo…)


mrCraigyC

39 posts

143 months

Thursday 8th September
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kmpowell said:
Congrats, looks great. Nice to see somebody else who was in a similar position to me, finally get their car. Hope the OPC made it a special handover for you.

The PDK really is sublime isn't it, totally transforms the car/engine and brings it alive. When I test drove them back to back the PDK felt more 'urgent' and 'on it'. As for the sound, I've read on Rennlist that cars built from mid 2021 onwards have a different OPF arrangement, with adaptions taken from the 992 GT3, which makes the car louder. There's a UK video I watched of a comparison between a 2019 and 2021 car and the difference was certainly noticeable.

smile
That’s explains then … definitely a stronger sound! PDK is awesome - really suits the car. As mine is going to be a road daily I’m also switching the tyres to Pilot 4S. The semi slick dunlops were entertaining yesterday in the rain!

kmpowell

2,411 posts

210 months

Thursday 8th September
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mrCraigyC said:
kmpowell said:
Congrats, looks great. Nice to see somebody else who was in a similar position to me, finally get their car. Hope the OPC made it a special handover for you.

The PDK really is sublime isn't it, totally transforms the car/engine and brings it alive. When I test drove them back to back the PDK felt more 'urgent' and 'on it'. As for the sound, I've read on Rennlist that cars built from mid 2021 onwards have a different OPF arrangement, with adaptions taken from the 992 GT3, which makes the car louder. There's a UK video I watched of a comparison between a 2019 and 2021 car and the difference was certainly noticeable.

smile
That’s explains then … definitely a stronger sound! PDK is awesome - really suits the car. As mine is going to be a road daily I’m also switching the tyres to Pilot 4S. The semi slick dunlops were entertaining yesterday in the rain!
I've found the video, from 4mins they do a direct comparison, it's not scientific but it's certainly different and comes across on the camera sound. My 2022 GT4 certainly sounds like the Spyder in that video rather then the early GT4, so perhaps Porsche have removed some of the restriction...


tidfrance

86 posts

112 months

Thursday 8th September
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Hi.
Picked up my GT4 last Friday.
This little thing is under the offside headlamp.
Nothing under the other one.
Sent to my salesperson,but day off today.
Anybody have any ideas.?
Cheers