718 GT4 UK Allocations
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NomadicTurbo said:
Out of interest, does anyone have any pointers as to why these two cars haven't sold yet? Is it just the usual case of time of year/high interest rates?
Both seem to be priced keenly for CS spec cars
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410034...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409184...
Pay for an independent inspection for peace of mind if you're serious about them . Both seem to be priced keenly for CS spec cars
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410034...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409184...
Gotta say, the 718 is not at a level i'd buy one over the 981 GT4
Quite cheap and at a level the inferior 981 doesn't really get a look in tbf.
Reflects time of year and post budget gloom with prevailing economic woes, indies selling, both first run 718 GT4 cars the first is relatively high miles and no mention of any history Porsche warranty or number of owners.
Rev reports essential on the 'manuels' btw.
Reflects time of year and post budget gloom with prevailing economic woes, indies selling, both first run 718 GT4 cars the first is relatively high miles and no mention of any history Porsche warranty or number of owners.
Rev reports essential on the 'manuels' btw.
NomadicTurbo said:
Out of interest, does anyone have any pointers as to why these two cars haven't sold yet? Is it just the usual case of time of year/high interest rates?
Both seem to be priced keenly for CS spec cars
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410034...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409184...
I've been trying to sell my similar GT Silver CS over the summer for similar money with no success. Mine is newer, has under 8000 miles and over 12 months OPC warranty. So I would say it makes those two look expensive, but obviously they can offer finance. As I've mentioned on the thread before, I think the market is very slow at the moment and isn't being helped by the interest rates and a high number of available cars. I've pulled mine now until spring, but will be interesting to see what happens to the market after christmas. They do seem the bargain of the Porsche range at the moment.Both seem to be priced keenly for CS spec cars
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410034...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409184...
OPC GT4 stock looking decidedly low for Dec
Only 9 manual & 8 PDK’s available for sell
By the time you you look for LED’s, Ext leather, Ceramics then very few if any
Also AT only have about 15 PDK’s under 5k miles and even less with high spec.
Looks like ceasing production and buyers seeing value is tightening up the supply
Let’s see how it plays out until spring arrives
Only 9 manual & 8 PDK’s available for sell
By the time you you look for LED’s, Ext leather, Ceramics then very few if any
Also AT only have about 15 PDK’s under 5k miles and even less with high spec.
Looks like ceasing production and buyers seeing value is tightening up the supply
Let’s see how it plays out until spring arrives
Edited by Augustash on Saturday 7th December 17:49
Augustash said:
OPC GT4 stock looking decidedly low for Dec
Only 9 manual & 8 PDK’s available for sell
By the time you you look for LED’s, Ext leather, Ceramics then very few if any
Also AT only have about 15 PDK’s under 5k miles and even less with high spec.
Looks like ceasing production and buyers seeing value is tightening up the supply
Let’s see how it plays out until spring arrives
Doesn’t help that the opc are offering very low trade offers on most cars, I would imagine the cost to change for a lot of buyers is now becoming expensive and refinancing there ballon and keeping there car may be the better option for the time being. Only 9 manual & 8 PDK’s available for sell
By the time you you look for LED’s, Ext leather, Ceramics then very few if any
Also AT only have about 15 PDK’s under 5k miles and even less with high spec.
Looks like ceasing production and buyers seeing value is tightening up the supply
Let’s see how it plays out until spring arrives
Edited by Augustash on Saturday 7th December 17:49
Gt4 is becoming a great buy now the prices have adjusted.
A late build pdk car has to be the pick of the bunch.
GT4RS said:
Augustash said:
OPC GT4 stock looking decidedly low for Dec
Only 9 manual & 8 PDK’s available for sell
By the time you you look for LED’s, Ext leather, Ceramics then very few if any
Also AT only have about 15 PDK’s under 5k miles and even less with high spec.
Looks like ceasing production and buyers seeing value is tightening up the supply
Let’s see how it plays out until spring arrives
Doesn’t help that the opc are offering very low trade offers on most cars, I would imagine the cost to change for a lot of buyers is now becoming expensive and refinancing there ballon and keeping there car may be the better option for the time being. Only 9 manual & 8 PDK’s available for sell
By the time you you look for LED’s, Ext leather, Ceramics then very few if any
Also AT only have about 15 PDK’s under 5k miles and even less with high spec.
Looks like ceasing production and buyers seeing value is tightening up the supply
Let’s see how it plays out until spring arrives
Edited by Augustash on Saturday 7th December 17:49
Gt4 is becoming a great buy now the prices have adjusted.
A late build pdk car has to be the pick of the bunch.
Bought my GT4 new June 23 well spec as a keeper with a key reason that was the last of the production.
I agree supply / demand make these a great buy and expect low mileage high spec cars just becoming harder to buy
GT4 sticks out vs the majority of the rest of the Porsche market currently with lots of cars available including used, pre reg and even new build slots
GT4RS said:
Doesn’t help that the opc are offering very low trade offers on most cars, I would imagine the cost to change for a lot of buyers is now becoming expensive and refinancing there ballon and keeping there car may be the better option for the time being.
Gt4 is becoming a great buy now the prices have adjusted.
A late build pdk car has to be the pick of the bunch.
Guys I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the market is flat to negative which means if you are selling it’s not ok… spec may have a minimal effect but that’s all.. we’re in a downturn and if you want to sell you are going to have to take way less than you paid. I did in April this year and it’s worse now for sure…..Gt4 is becoming a great buy now the prices have adjusted.
A late build pdk car has to be the pick of the bunch.
SpyderMatt said:
GT4RS said:
Doesn’t help that the opc are offering very low trade offers on most cars, I would imagine the cost to change for a lot of buyers is now becoming expensive and refinancing there ballon and keeping there car may be the better option for the time being.
Gt4 is becoming a great buy now the prices have adjusted.
A late build pdk car has to be the pick of the bunch.
Guys I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the market is flat to negative which means if you are selling it’s not ok… spec may have a minimal effect but that’s all.. we’re in a downturn and if you want to sell you are going to have to take way less than you paid. I did in April this year and it’s worse now for sure…..Gt4 is becoming a great buy now the prices have adjusted.
A late build pdk car has to be the pick of the bunch.
General market is poor and looking at levels of stock on OPC for 911’s Macans Taycans Caymans in general flooded with stock
GT4 is looking a niche market with only 5 PDK 23 plate sub 5k miles on AT which says something
Once production ceased and flippers moved on this was always going to be the case. Price will follow the market but most depreciation will be in first 2 years so as they stopped producing in 2023 it’s just about done. Holding the car now isn’t such a financial hit imo and just a pleasure to own
Very strong result this morning on this white 13.8k mile January 21 GT4 manual with 3 owners and needing some £2k paintwork reached some £10k over trade price with fees approaching £70k all in even with no Porsche service history or warranty excluded rev range report as well.
Remarkable result for such an average specimen a couple of weeks before Christmas considering the market is meant to be so quiet.
Looks like its going be an expensive Spring.
Remarkable result for such an average specimen a couple of weeks before Christmas considering the market is meant to be so quiet.
Looks like its going be an expensive Spring.
av185 said:
Very strong result this morning on this white 13.8k mile January 21 GT4 manual with 3 owners and needing some £2k paintwork reached some £10k over trade price with fees approaching £70k all in even with no Porsche service history or warranty excluded rev range report as well.
Remarkable result for such an average specimen a couple of weeks before Christmas considering the market is meant to be so quiet.
Looks like its going be an expensive Spring.
It's interesting you should say this. I've just bought a 718 Spyder. Was tracking them for months .. nothing sold, prices dropping .. then within a week 3 manual with buckets sold ! Now only 3 at OPCs. I also was tracking cars using Motorway .. values have also jumped by £10k .Remarkable result for such an average specimen a couple of weeks before Christmas considering the market is meant to be so quiet.
Looks like its going be an expensive Spring.
NomadicTurbo said:
Out of interest, does anyone have any pointers as to why these two cars haven't sold yet? Is it just the usual case of time of year/high interest rates?
Both seem to be priced keenly for CS spec cars
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410034...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409184...
I do think the GT4 is becoming an absolute bargain.Both seem to be priced keenly for CS spec cars
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410034...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409184...
I bid £85k on that second car in early 2023. I loved the colour combo, only issue was the cheap lights. The idiot salesman would just not play ball - he could not understand my argument that I was not willing to buy at a higher price than from an OPC with no warranty. What a dunce. I ended up buying a black one with a slightly better spec from Swindon OPC. I was watching the car slowly sink on AT Tracker until they must have decided to put in a new ad and cleanse the history.
A gap in the weather here today, so I got the car out from winter hibernation for a couple of hours. 14 degrees, mainly dry roads, 200 mile round trip blasting across the East/West Sussex A/B roads.
Home with a big smile on my face. Jet washed off the salt and locked it back up until next year. IMO, £ for £, still by far & away the best sports car money can currently buy, and any thought I had of replacing has firmly gone again.
Depreciation? In the depths of Xmas/winter WBAC are currently offering £68k, Motorway at the same. I was offered £70k by the dealer which emailed a few weeks ago. I declined but he insisted I should come in to talk about it as he had “buyers waiting”. I didn’t believe that story, though, my opinion is they are trying to low ball for decent stock, as the sub £100k market is still moving and they can make very decent £10-20k margin from £70k for a decent spec car.
The refinanced (July ‘24) underwrite (GFV) on my car, for July ‘26 was £57-58k. So at 4yrs old it will have lost £34k in a worst case scenario. That, IMO is pretty impressive considering you can lose that in a matter of weeks on other models right now.
Stock is thin on the ground for decent spec cars, and the old dross at the bottom of the ladder doesn’t appear to be dragging everything else down with it. Decent spec cars newer (and particularly PDK) are still moving at £75-80k or £80-85k (at OPC), whilst older much cheaper manual cars are seemingly sticking around.
All IMO, of course.
Home with a big smile on my face. Jet washed off the salt and locked it back up until next year. IMO, £ for £, still by far & away the best sports car money can currently buy, and any thought I had of replacing has firmly gone again.
Depreciation? In the depths of Xmas/winter WBAC are currently offering £68k, Motorway at the same. I was offered £70k by the dealer which emailed a few weeks ago. I declined but he insisted I should come in to talk about it as he had “buyers waiting”. I didn’t believe that story, though, my opinion is they are trying to low ball for decent stock, as the sub £100k market is still moving and they can make very decent £10-20k margin from £70k for a decent spec car.
The refinanced (July ‘24) underwrite (GFV) on my car, for July ‘26 was £57-58k. So at 4yrs old it will have lost £34k in a worst case scenario. That, IMO is pretty impressive considering you can lose that in a matter of weeks on other models right now.
Stock is thin on the ground for decent spec cars, and the old dross at the bottom of the ladder doesn’t appear to be dragging everything else down with it. Decent spec cars newer (and particularly PDK) are still moving at £75-80k or £80-85k (at OPC), whilst older much cheaper manual cars are seemingly sticking around.
All IMO, of course.
Augustash said:
Yep and once you factor in buckets there are only 2 PDKs and 4 manual OPC cars remaining.Both PDK cars are the only remaining more expensive CS cars the most expensive of all clearly being one of the last registered 4.7k mile 73 plate in September 2023 on at £84900.
No coincidence and unsurprisingly the cheapest manual cars are the early run much older 2020 20 plate with by far and away the highest mileage (19.1k miles) and greatest number of owners (4 owners) of all at £71400 and the first run 2019 reg oldest car at £69900.
The remaining 2 2022 reg manual cars are just slightly cheaper than the PDKs at £79950 and £82000.
GT4P said:
Augustash]T4P said:
Couple of weeks ago a 1 owner 1k 2023 CS at an OPC went for £87k! Also there is a car on autotrader brand new pre registration delivery miles (25) that has fell from £103k to £89k. What about the Nogaro blue car that keeps moving around what currently £96k imo needs to be low 90s to sellBeen saying for ages the best of best Gt4 is mid 80s now but there will be a few on here who won’t believe you lol
Plus nothing to do with winter either, I can see 718 gt4 in the high 50s low 60s albeit an older car with average mileage early
next year
Plus nothing to do with winter either, I can see 718 gt4 in the high 50s low 60s albeit an older car with average mileage early
next year
Edited by GT4P on Monday 16th December 14:19
Edited by GT4P on Monday 16th December 14:21
av185 said:
A colossal £70k trade sale price accurately reflecting the current market for a scabby manual 70 plate in white with 3 owners and over 13k miles sold last week as per my previous post suggests you are wrong.....wait till next Spring....
You said the same last winter yet prices continued to fall even spring, summer.Definitely think you are some kind of trader or if not some affiliation!
Anyone in the market for a gt4 needs pay no more than £85k for a low miles 2023 CS Pts or not colour is personal choice.
There was a car which I pointed out a while back brand new preregister delivery miles that dropped from £103k to £85k and recently “may” have sold! It was £85k for a while so a deal could have been done!
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