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I had PCCB’s on both of my last GT4’s.
The current generation suffer from a very strange phenomenon on track. On the first heat cycle the pedal goes very very soft and very long. The last two times I used the car on track the first session ended with the pedal going all the way to the floor….
However after that first heat cycle, they then work perfectly for the rest of the day.
I’m not the only person who has seen this happen on track (I did have it happen in the highlands once too….). Both on GT4’s and Gt4RS’s. The steels don’t suffer from this at all.
The only fix is to replace the pads with RSC1’s, at which point this phenomenon goes away and pad and disc life are hugely extended.
The only other issue with PCCB’s is stones getting stuck between the calliper and wheel barrel, causing scoring round the inside of the wheel. I had this on both of mine as well.
Good luck with your search!
Jack
The current generation suffer from a very strange phenomenon on track. On the first heat cycle the pedal goes very very soft and very long. The last two times I used the car on track the first session ended with the pedal going all the way to the floor….
However after that first heat cycle, they then work perfectly for the rest of the day.
I’m not the only person who has seen this happen on track (I did have it happen in the highlands once too….). Both on GT4’s and Gt4RS’s. The steels don’t suffer from this at all.
The only fix is to replace the pads with RSC1’s, at which point this phenomenon goes away and pad and disc life are hugely extended.
The only other issue with PCCB’s is stones getting stuck between the calliper and wheel barrel, causing scoring round the inside of the wheel. I had this on both of mine as well.
Good luck with your search!
Jack
jackwood said:
I had PCCB s on both of my last GT4 s.
The current generation suffer from a very strange phenomenon on track. On the first heat cycle the pedal goes very very soft and very long. The last two times I used the car on track the first session ended with the pedal going all the way to the floor .
However after that first heat cycle, they then work perfectly for the rest of the day.
I m not the only person who has seen this happen on track (I did have it happen in the highlands once too .). Both on GT4 s and Gt4RS s. The steels don t suffer from this at all.
The only fix is to replace the pads with RSC1 s, at which point this phenomenon goes away and pad and disc life are hugely extended.
The only other issue with PCCB s is stones getting stuck between the calliper and wheel barrel, causing scoring round the inside of the wheel. I had this on both of mine as well.
Good luck with your search!
Jack
Almost immediately I went to RSC1s and Castrol SRF as you say almost essential. The oem pads are boxed up to go back on when the car eventually goes. The current generation suffer from a very strange phenomenon on track. On the first heat cycle the pedal goes very very soft and very long. The last two times I used the car on track the first session ended with the pedal going all the way to the floor .
However after that first heat cycle, they then work perfectly for the rest of the day.
I m not the only person who has seen this happen on track (I did have it happen in the highlands once too .). Both on GT4 s and Gt4RS s. The steels don t suffer from this at all.
The only fix is to replace the pads with RSC1 s, at which point this phenomenon goes away and pad and disc life are hugely extended.
The only other issue with PCCB s is stones getting stuck between the calliper and wheel barrel, causing scoring round the inside of the wheel. I had this on both of mine as well.
Good luck with your search!
Jack
I’m on steels. Standard pads and discs all round, but with decent brake fluid.
I think the brakes are great on track. Very consistent and lots of stopping power. No idea if PCCBs would have any advantage in outright performance or feel, but the standard setup (with decent fluid) works well.
I think the brakes are great on track. Very consistent and lots of stopping power. No idea if PCCBs would have any advantage in outright performance or feel, but the standard setup (with decent fluid) works well.
PRO5T said:
I have a GT3 sized hole in the garage that I suspect a 718 GT4 Clubsport would fill ideally for the time being, it's funny how when you have the cash in your pocket suddenly nothing on the market quite hits the spot.
If you’ve not seen it already, in the past few days Romans listed this lovely CS & PCCB specced Python car. PRO5T said:
Surprised there are no recommendations for the Manthey pad set up for the oe PCCBs? Would the use on Manthey pads mean no warranty knock backs should a disc fail (or are those pretty much excluded from warranty claims anyway?
Those are also made by Pagid, I don't think there's much difference, besides RSC1s when mounted look identical to oem pads pretty much and as you said warranty doesn't really apply.That's before we've even got to price, now the Manthey pads are Tequipment they've literally doubled in price overnight, think about £1k+ per axle. Ignore the prices online from RPM etc, those are incorrect, all stock is held by Porsche now.
honda_exige said:
PRO5T said:
Surprised there are no recommendations for the Manthey pad set up for the oe PCCBs? Would the use on Manthey pads mean no warranty knock backs should a disc fail (or are those pretty much excluded from warranty claims anyway?
Those are also made by Pagid, I don't think there's much difference, besides RSC1s when mounted look identical to oem pads pretty much and as you said warranty doesn't really apply.That's before we've even got to price, now the Manthey pads are Tequipment they've literally doubled in price overnight, think about £1k+ per axle. Ignore the prices online from RPM etc, those are incorrect, all stock is held by Porsche now.
I've been offered an interesting car that's had a 9m stage 2 tune on it (although that can be taken off), 450bhp and lightweight flywheel which sounds right up my street but part of the reason for going GT4 is a hassle free warrantied experience for a while.
I wouldn't fancy a warranty exclusion because the exhaust has been modified.
PRO5T said:
Surprised there are no recommendations for the Manthey pad set up for the oe PCCBs? Would the use on Manthey pads mean no warranty knock backs should a disc fail (or are those pretty much excluded from warranty claims anyway?
You could go Manthey. Just a question of price. The tax is real.
honda_exige said:
Those are also made by Pagid, I don't think there's much difference, besides RSC1s when mounted look identical to oem pads pretty much and as you said warranty doesn't really apply.
That's before we've even got to price, now the Manthey pads are Tequipment they've literally doubled in price overnight, think about £1k+ per axle. Ignore the prices online from RPM etc, those are incorrect, all stock is held by Porsche now.
Correct That's before we've even got to price, now the Manthey pads are Tequipment they've literally doubled in price overnight, think about £1k+ per axle. Ignore the prices online from RPM etc, those are incorrect, all stock is held by Porsche now.
PRO5T said:
Ah understood, obviously my research was just a quick google resulting in RPMs page.
I've been offered an interesting car that's had a 9m stage 2 tune on it (although that can be taken off), 450bhp and lightweight flywheel which sounds right up my street but part of the reason for going GT4 is a hassle free warrantied experience for a while.
I wouldn't fancy a warranty exclusion because the exhaust has been modified.
With the regularity of PADM failures at £1k+ a pop warranty is a good idea. I've seen some people have a backbox and swap it on/off for the 2yr service which they do at home as a 45min job. I've been offered an interesting car that's had a 9m stage 2 tune on it (although that can be taken off), 450bhp and lightweight flywheel which sounds right up my street but part of the reason for going GT4 is a hassle free warrantied experience for a while.
I wouldn't fancy a warranty exclusion because the exhaust has been modified.
PRO5T said:
I think the only visible difference is the over axle pipes which remove the particulate filters on that particular car.
Potential issue is either it will have a obd port plug to kill the eml light in that case or it's been mapped out. The maps might not be detectable but the flash counter will always show that it's been remapped should it be interrogated by an opc iirc. Edited by honda_exige on Sunday 8th June 16:11
BillyB said:
Porsche Hatfield were fine with me having RSC1's on my 981 GT4 and it not affecting the warranty about 2 years ago. I didn't have to put it to the test though.
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