PDK failure

PDK failure

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981Boxess

9,385 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th June
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cossers said:
I think what would piss me off is the mileages of some of the failures, seems very low in warranty or not
I think what would be more relevant is the number of gear changes and type of abuse the failed PDK may have been subjected to, rather than the mileage.

Car A, normal mixed spirited sports car road driving, driven by someone with some mechanical sympathy.
Car B, weekend car, ragged to death for every mile on the speedo by someone with no mechanical sympathy and the chrome worn off the paddles.

Given that today the dealer can tell exactly what use the car has been subjected to very easily I can see how they may entertain some claims more generously than others. Not making any excuses for Porsche but there are always two sides to any story.

Grr_Boris

123 posts

3 months

Thursday 10th June
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homerdog said:
Because it's not fit for purpose, not difficult to understand, surely?
Please can you confirm the usage (mileage or duration) for each component, so that I can determine whether to buy a warranty or not?
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Thanks

craigjm

12,746 posts

167 months

Thursday 10th June
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cossers said:
I think what would piss me off is the mileages of some of the failures, seems very low in warranty or not
Some of the failures? can you point to a wedge of failures at low mileage which suggest that its more than an isolated issue.

cossers

2,659 posts

107 months

Thursday 10th June
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craigjm said:
cossers said:
I think what would piss me off is the mileages of some of the failures, seems very low in warranty or not
Some of the failures? can you point to a wedge of failures at low mileage which suggest that its more than an isolated issue.
I know of three 981 steering rack failures with under 15k mileage on each car, too much steering I suppose.

craigjm

12,746 posts

167 months

Thursday 10th June
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cossers said:
craigjm said:
cossers said:
I think what would piss me off is the mileages of some of the failures, seems very low in warranty or not
Some of the failures? can you point to a wedge of failures at low mileage which suggest that its more than an isolated issue.
I know of three 981 steering rack failures with under 15k mileage on each car, too much steering I suppose.
I thought we were talking about PDK gearboxes here. Your post seems to suggest that failure of the PDK gearboxes at low mileage is not rare

Grr_Boris

123 posts

3 months

Thursday 10th June
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cossers said:
I know of three 981 steering rack failures with under 15k mileage on each car, too much steering I suppose.
Out of how many cars?

Charlie_1

175 posts

59 months

Thursday 10th June
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Grr_Boris said:
homerdog said:
Because it's not fit for purpose, not difficult to understand, surely?
Please can you confirm the usage (mileage or duration) for each component, so that I can determine whether to buy a warranty or not?
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Thanks
im going to guess that you 2 are comedian's .. oh hang on having read posts again probably not. not fit for purpose , who says ? and before someone says 15k , if the car has been mistreated ie taken right around rev counter from key turn and every set off traffic lights is treated as an F1 start what is reasonable/fit for purpose ? , the point i was trying to make was people don't seem to be interested in any form of self responsibility , when I bought my car i did research and concluded it had the possibility to bite me on the arse badly so a warranty was a good idea but the tone of some of the posts on here read like im not spending on a warranty because i will just stamp my foot and scream and Porsche will have to fix it.



cossers

2,659 posts

107 months

Thursday 10th June
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Grr_Boris said:
cossers said:
I know of three 981 steering rack failures with under 15k mileage on each car, too much steering I suppose.
Out of how many cars?
What’s, how many have failed matter? I’m referring to low mileage failures, you saying you’d be hitting the OPC with your wallet and a big fat smile, happy at handing over 3k for a rack that failed after 15k?

Ps I’m not talking about if its in or out of warranty, this is a simple question, do you think it’s ok for a steering rack to fail in less than 15k miles?




Edited by cossers on Thursday 10th June 19:40

Roof down

296 posts

93 months

Friday 11th June
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ALWAYS KEEP THE PORSCHE WARRANTY GOING NO MATTER WHAT.
Simple

Lexington59

Original Poster:

366 posts

32 months

Friday 11th June
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"The engine could have been over-revved on a downshift, when it is not protected by the rev-limiter."

I didn't think it was possible to over rev with a PDK ?

craigjm

12,746 posts

167 months

Friday 11th June
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Lexington59 said:
"The engine could have been over-revved on a downshift, when it is not protected by the rev-limiter."

I didn't think it was possible to over rev with a PDK ?
it isnt

Grr_Boris

123 posts

3 months

Friday 11th June
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Charlie_1 said:
im going to guess that you 2 are comedian's .. oh hang on having read posts again probably not. not fit for purpose , who says ? and before someone says 15k , if the car has been mistreated ie taken right around rev counter from key turn and every set off traffic lights is treated as an F1 start what is reasonable/fit for purpose ? , the point i was trying to make was people don't seem to be interested in any form of self responsibility , when I bought my car i did research and concluded it had the possibility to bite me on the arse badly so a warranty was a good idea but the tone of some of the posts on here read like im not spending on a warranty because i will just stamp my foot and scream and Porsche will have to fix it.
You do realise we are taking the same side on this?

cossers

2,659 posts

107 months

Friday 11th June
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Grr_Boris said:
Charlie_1 said:
im going to guess that you 2 are comedian's .. oh hang on having read posts again probably not. not fit for purpose , who says ? and before someone says 15k , if the car has been mistreated ie taken right around rev counter from key turn and every set off traffic lights is treated as an F1 start what is reasonable/fit for purpose ? , the point i was trying to make was people don't seem to be interested in any form of self responsibility , when I bought my car i did research and concluded it had the possibility to bite me on the arse badly so a warranty was a good idea but the tone of some of the posts on here read like im not spending on a warranty because i will just stamp my foot and scream and Porsche will have to fix it.
You do realise we are taking the same side on this?
Tbh I don’t think this about anyone stamping their feet and expecting Porsche to pick up the tab no matter what, this is (to me) more about what is the average expected period of use out of a part under normal driving conditions and I don’t think 15k from a gearbox, if driven perfectly normally, is acceptable wether it’s covered by warranty or not.

If it’s been driven to death at all times then it’s case closed and the owners fault in my view


Charlie_1

175 posts

59 months

Friday 11th June
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Grr_Boris said:
You do realise we are taking the same side on this?
Apologies one way or another i wasnt having a good day yesterday and vented without thinking

Grr_Boris

123 posts

3 months

Friday 11th June
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Charlie_1 said:
Grr_Boris said:
You do realise we are taking the same side on this?
Apologies one way or another i wasnt having a good day yesterday and vented without thinking
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Charlie_1

175 posts

59 months

Friday 11th June
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cossers said:
Tbh I don’t think this about anyone stamping their feet and expecting Porsche to pick up the tab no matter what, this is (to me) more about what is the average expected period of use out of a part under normal driving conditions and I don’t think 15k from a gearbox, if driven perfectly normally, is acceptable wether it’s covered by warranty or not.

If it’s been driven to death at all times then it’s case closed and the owners fault in my view
From that perspective I totally agree and yes if it hasnt been misused for want of a better phrase then at that mileage its understandable to want have a dialog with Porsche and yes I would do that but I still think there is point to making sure you are in good position.



cossers

2,659 posts

107 months

Friday 11th June
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Charlie_1 said:
cossers said:
Tbh I don’t think this about anyone stamping their feet and expecting Porsche to pick up the tab no matter what, this is (to me) more about what is the average expected period of use out of a part under normal driving conditions and I don’t think 15k from a gearbox, if driven perfectly normally, is acceptable wether it’s covered by warranty or not.

If it’s been driven to death at all times then it’s case closed and the owners fault in my view
From that perspective I totally agree and yes if it hasnt been misused for want of a better phrase then at that mileage its understandable to want have a dialog with Porsche and yes I would do that but I still think there is point to making sure you are in good position.
Thanks for reading and digesting as ment :-)

YoungFireOldFlame

83 posts

26 months

Sunday 20th June
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I'd be very angry and unimpressed even if I had a warranty. The gearbox should not be failing on a 4-year-old car. The whole point of a new car like that is hassle-free motoring. Otherwise, he might as well have bought a 10 year Boxster from a dealer like me and keep topping up the extended warranty. I expect on my now 12-year-old Boxster that it may break down and need the RAC to recover it to the dealer and that it may also need running repairs. So I may be without a car. That's the hassle/faff of owning an old car...

Schmed

2,501 posts

39 months

Sunday 20th June
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Newer cars certainly aren’t without problems, you can end up in the bmw Porsche assist hire car for a few weeks even for fairly mundane failures on a new one, in my experience.

GTSMarky

83 posts

42 months

Wednesday 23rd June
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Yikes. Always worries me reading these types of posts.

I'd say Porsche offering to pay 80% is a good result and no doubt the replacement item will then be OPC warranty covered.

Who knows why it failed and what use it has had, but for sure the PDK is well protected by safety measures not to over rev up or down in any mode so most likely a faulty item rather than misuse..