Why so much negativity on here about the 981?
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Cheers Twin & N12. Looking forward to being back where I belong lol.
I agree on the 3.4 engine being a peach, not driven a GT4 long enough recently to really remember, but do remember the 3.4 revving really well.
As my daily car I really don't want to be making changes etc, just something out of the box I can have fun with.
As you mention testdrive the X73 kit for me made the car respond really well, and the damping was great for something pretty stiff. In my previous 981 GTS Manual I did fit a GT4/Spyder steering wheel which made a big difference to how it felt in your hands, the GTS steering wheel is pretty chunky and feels huge. I think its something I will do again.
Also as Twin mentioned when the Pzero's die, MPS4S and camber adjustment to make it more responsive (even Centre of Gravity recommended this).
I did speak to Jens in germany about fitting a 981 Spyder steering rack to my previous GTS as thats out of the 911 Turbo, but he said it was not possible.
I agree on the 3.4 engine being a peach, not driven a GT4 long enough recently to really remember, but do remember the 3.4 revving really well.
As my daily car I really don't want to be making changes etc, just something out of the box I can have fun with.
As you mention testdrive the X73 kit for me made the car respond really well, and the damping was great for something pretty stiff. In my previous 981 GTS Manual I did fit a GT4/Spyder steering wheel which made a big difference to how it felt in your hands, the GTS steering wheel is pretty chunky and feels huge. I think its something I will do again.
Also as Twin mentioned when the Pzero's die, MPS4S and camber adjustment to make it more responsive (even Centre of Gravity recommended this).
I did speak to Jens in germany about fitting a 981 Spyder steering rack to my previous GTS as thats out of the 911 Turbo, but he said it was not possible.
JasonSteel said:
no doubt all the other changes have made a big difference but the Michelins completely change the 981 handling and feel for the better.
Look forward to seeing how that pans out. Still on Pirelli P Zeros (the fronts are still the originals from 2015!) and waiting for the PS4S' to arrive at the tyre place.Now that I've had the 981 Boxster S PDK for 6+ months and driven it in much better conditions than the depths of winter, I am more and more amazed at the quality of the chassis. Plus the steering feel. All works together brilliantly as one package.
The engine is nice enough, but I don't think the 3.4 is the best bit of the car. In reality, it's a faster car than is ever needed in the real world, but it does lack torque, if being critical. However, the PDK overcomes that pretty well thanks to the quick shifts and number of gears to keep it on the boil.
It sounds good enough, even "spine tingling" sometimes over 5k RPM, but there are more "emotional" engines out there.
Does that mean I want to jump ship? Don't think so. It's built for the B roads around these parts and I'm enjoying that
JayK12 said:
Cheers Twin & N12. Looking forward to being back where I belong lol.
I agree on the 3.4 engine being a peach, not driven a GT4 long enough recently to really remember, but do remember the 3.4 revving really well.
As my daily car I really don't want to be making changes etc, just something out of the box I can have fun with.
As you mention testdrive the X73 kit for me made the car respond really well, and the damping was great for something pretty stiff. In my previous 981 GTS Manual I did fit a GT4/Spyder steering wheel which made a big difference to how it felt in your hands, the GTS steering wheel is pretty chunky and feels huge. I think its something I will do again.
Also as Twin mentioned when the Pzero's die, MPS4S and camber adjustment to make it more responsive (even Centre of Gravity recommended this).
I did speak to Jens in germany about fitting a 981 Spyder steering rack to my previous GTS as thats out of the 911 Turbo, but he said it was not possible.
Would really like to hear the technical reason for this, did Jens give you any insights as to why it can't be done ?I agree on the 3.4 engine being a peach, not driven a GT4 long enough recently to really remember, but do remember the 3.4 revving really well.
As my daily car I really don't want to be making changes etc, just something out of the box I can have fun with.
As you mention testdrive the X73 kit for me made the car respond really well, and the damping was great for something pretty stiff. In my previous 981 GTS Manual I did fit a GT4/Spyder steering wheel which made a big difference to how it felt in your hands, the GTS steering wheel is pretty chunky and feels huge. I think its something I will do again.
Also as Twin mentioned when the Pzero's die, MPS4S and camber adjustment to make it more responsive (even Centre of Gravity recommended this).
I did speak to Jens in germany about fitting a 981 Spyder steering rack to my previous GTS as thats out of the 911 Turbo, but he said it was not possible.
Slippydiff said:
JayK12 said:
Cheers Twin & N12. Looking forward to being back where I belong lol.
I agree on the 3.4 engine being a peach, not driven a GT4 long enough recently to really remember, but do remember the 3.4 revving really well.
As my daily car I really don't want to be making changes etc, just something out of the box I can have fun with.
As you mention testdrive the X73 kit for me made the car respond really well, and the damping was great for something pretty stiff. In my previous 981 GTS Manual I did fit a GT4/Spyder steering wheel which made a big difference to how it felt in your hands, the GTS steering wheel is pretty chunky and feels huge. I think its something I will do again.
Also as Twin mentioned when the Pzero's die, MPS4S and camber adjustment to make it more responsive (even Centre of Gravity recommended this).
I did speak to Jens in germany about fitting a 981 Spyder steering rack to my previous GTS as thats out of the 911 Turbo, but he said it was not possible.
Would really like to hear the technical reason for this, did Jens give you any insights as to why it can't be done ?I agree on the 3.4 engine being a peach, not driven a GT4 long enough recently to really remember, but do remember the 3.4 revving really well.
As my daily car I really don't want to be making changes etc, just something out of the box I can have fun with.
As you mention testdrive the X73 kit for me made the car respond really well, and the damping was great for something pretty stiff. In my previous 981 GTS Manual I did fit a GT4/Spyder steering wheel which made a big difference to how it felt in your hands, the GTS steering wheel is pretty chunky and feels huge. I think its something I will do again.
Also as Twin mentioned when the Pzero's die, MPS4S and camber adjustment to make it more responsive (even Centre of Gravity recommended this).
I did speak to Jens in germany about fitting a 981 Spyder steering rack to my previous GTS as thats out of the 911 Turbo, but he said it was not possible.
Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 28th July 14:08
Rocket. said:
Is the 3.4 in the GTS really that different from the 981 S engine or just a remap and different exhaust?
Depends in what way when you say really that different. Overall as a package some might say yes, some might say no. It really is preference. I was looking at an S again now but the spec I wanted its just easier with a GTS and I think its just that bit more special. Its subjective if its worth the extra which in the current market doesn't seem that much.Power wise I think its just a different engine map, exhaust is a PSE as standard but you can option that on the S. I don't think you'd notice any difference in power etc.
JayK12 said:
Power wise I think its just a different engine map, exhaust is a PSE as standard but you can option that on the S. I don't think you'd notice any difference in power etc.
The GTS remap is a slight power bump and I believe more pops and crackles when PSE is turned on. The S is still great, the GTS is it turned up to 11.Just took my manual 981B 2.7 out at lunch, country roads, roof down and it was fantastic. The engine note is glorious, particularly as it has PSE, and the gearbox is a peach. I’ve never really struggled with the gearing, doesn’t factor in and I’m always changing gear.
Coming from a Lotus I gain much more than I lose with the Porsche.
Would love a 981 Spyder, but will wait for the covid pricing to simmer down.
Coming from a Lotus I gain much more than I lose with the Porsche.
Would love a 981 Spyder, but will wait for the covid pricing to simmer down.
Rocket. said:
Is the 3.4 in the GTS really that different from the 981 S engine or just a remap and different exhaust?
No but depends on the spec of the S in question.It's an S with PSE and sports chrono and advertised to be mapped slightly differently to provide 15bhp more at the top end. The only hardware difference is a sound symposer tube piped into the cabin which I've also retrofitted. In my experience they sound and pop just the same.
I've compared my Boxster S with SC/PSE etc to a 981 Cayman GTS which is advertised to have a 25bhp uplfit, zero difference side by side. Make of that what you will.
testdrive said:
AJB88 said:
I had a very high spec S, had Cobb Stage 2 on it so I gained the "GTS power + more"
You gained Carrera power !Ps - did I hear correctly that the X73 rear bar needing to be a different part number for a PTV car?
PS. Like TD said, the engine in my 981S with SC & PSE seemed pretty much identical to a GTS side by side… but if I can eek out a few more horses without too much effort then why not!
Edited by Royal Jelly on Thursday 29th July 01:59
Royal Jelly said:
Do elaborate! As I’m out of warranty next summer, I’ll be doing a couple of modifications; the X73 roll bars will be first, but I’d be interested to hear what you can achieve with a map and intake and if anyone can point me to a reputable tuner…
Ps - did I hear correctly that the X73 rear bar needing to be a different part number for a PTV car?
PS. Like TD said, the engine in my 981S with SC & PSE seemed pretty much identical to a GTS side by side… but if I can eek out a few more horses without too much effort then why not!
My video on the x73 bars is on YouTube and covers everything you need to know, testdrivescotland is the channel. Ps - did I hear correctly that the X73 rear bar needing to be a different part number for a PTV car?
PS. Like TD said, the engine in my 981S with SC & PSE seemed pretty much identical to a GTS side by side… but if I can eek out a few more horses without too much effort then why not!
Edited by Royal Jelly on Thursday 29th July 01:59
You can order the 14 or 15 bar. The x73 Cayman uses the 15 and the Boxster the 14. If you intend on just doing the rear then the 14 is probably best and you don't need to get new bushing mounts as it's the same diameter just solid.
Cars that are not x73 with PTV already have a slightly stiffer bar but not as stiff as the x73 one.
I don't hear anything good about changing the intake plenum a reputable tune would be all that's needed but I have no direct experience.
Royal Jelly said:
Do elaborate! As I’m out of warranty next summer, I’ll be doing a couple of modifications; the X73 roll bars will be first, but I’d be interested to hear what you can achieve with a map and intake and if anyone can point me to a reputable tuner…
Ps - did I hear correctly that the X73 rear bar needing to be a different part number for a PTV car?
PS. Like TD said, the engine in my 981S with SC & PSE seemed pretty much identical to a GTS side by side… but if I can eek out a few more horses without too much effort then why not!
I did mine while in warranty still. I managed to pick up a COBB device for around £550 2nd hand. You plug it into a Windows based machine (had to borrow one of these) update it and then download the correct files from COBB website and flash them, I had race headers so I ran the Stage 2 file and "aggressive" PDK map which also switched the change direction, so down was forward, up backwards. Ps - did I hear correctly that the X73 rear bar needing to be a different part number for a PTV car?
PS. Like TD said, the engine in my 981S with SC & PSE seemed pretty much identical to a GTS side by side… but if I can eek out a few more horses without too much effort then why not!
Edited by Royal Jelly on Thursday 29th July 01:59
Car was a dream to drive. The COBB when I got it also had some custom files on it from Unicorn Developments but they were locked to the old owners Boxster.
Anybody who is a COBB tuner can load you custom files onto the device. When you want to put it back to stock just simply uninstall it from car.
testdrive said:
My video on the x73 bars is on YouTube and covers everything you need to know, testdrivescotland is the channel.
You can order the 14 or 15 bar. The x73 Cayman uses the 15 and the Boxster the 14. If you intend on just doing the rear then the 14 is probably best and you don't need to get new bushing mounts as it's the same diameter just solid.
Cars that are not x73 with PTV already have a slightly stiffer bar but not as stiff as the x73 one.
I don't hear anything good about changing the intake plenum a reputable tune would be all that's needed but I have no direct experience.
Watched your video on 981 v 987 Spyder recently, good stuff....and resulted in me buying a Spyder...! You swine! You can order the 14 or 15 bar. The x73 Cayman uses the 15 and the Boxster the 14. If you intend on just doing the rear then the 14 is probably best and you don't need to get new bushing mounts as it's the same diameter just solid.
Cars that are not x73 with PTV already have a slightly stiffer bar but not as stiff as the x73 one.
I don't hear anything good about changing the intake plenum a reputable tune would be all that's needed but I have no direct experience.
Edited by MrVert on Thursday 29th July 12:41
MrVert said:
testdrive said:
My video on the x73 bars is on YouTube and covers everything you need to know, testdrivescotland is the channel.
You can order the 14 or 15 bar. The x73 Cayman uses the 15 and the Boxster the 14. If you intend on just doing the rear then the 14 is probably best and you don't need to get new bushing mounts as it's the same diameter just solid.
Cars that are not x73 with PTV already have a slightly stiffer bar but not as stiff as the x73 one.
I don't hear anything good about changing the intake plenum a reputable tune would be all that's needed but I have no direct experience.
Watched your video on 981 v 987 Spyder recently, good stuff....and resulted in me buying a Spyder...! You swine! You can order the 14 or 15 bar. The x73 Cayman uses the 15 and the Boxster the 14. If you intend on just doing the rear then the 14 is probably best and you don't need to get new bushing mounts as it's the same diameter just solid.
Cars that are not x73 with PTV already have a slightly stiffer bar but not as stiff as the x73 one.
I don't hear anything good about changing the intake plenum a reputable tune would be all that's needed but I have no direct experience.
Edited by MrVert on Thursday 29th July 12:41
Ashgoods Red 987 Spyder still not sold. A mate was there today having a general look around at their stuff.
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