GT4RS - Availability, what’s the latest?

[blane99]

Apologies

[jzma]

blane99 said:

Out of interest which OPC were you looking at ? I have a very good relationship with one of them

Email me - It is not allowing me to message you

[paddy1970]

blane99 said:

Actually someone who had a 991.2 gt3, 718 gt4, 992 gt3 and now a gt4rs who has a good relationship with an opc and would.like to help people

Oh and a 992.2 gt3 on order .. ??

Edited by blane99 on Tuesday 29th April 19:47

Edited by blane99 on Tuesday 29th April 19:48

Sell your GT4RS privately if you want to "help" people...and help yourself!

[GT4P]

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

Wow low miles/owner over £160k new now £130k how things have changed. Nice car though for someone who’s looking but then again with so many new cars for sale I presume a build slot is easy find.these days

[LiamH66]

I'm not sure that would have been over £160k 2 years ago when it was new. Almost certainly not when it was ordered, which may have been a year or more before that. Wild guess of £155k in that spec. So it has depreciated maybe 15% in 2 years/5k miles? Doesn't seem that terrible to me.

But yes, the world has changed in many ways. GT4 RS allocations became much easier to get from about a year ago (around the time I got one, which I don't believe to be a coincidence). You can find them new; you can find them used for less than people paid for them; but I have no reason to ask the OPC if you can order them, because I already have one.

Edit: Surprisingly, Auto Express had a look at slowest depreciating cars in the UK over 3 years back in January. 2 Porsches made the list. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/107122/car...

Edited by LiamH66 on Thursday 1st May 22:55

[GT4P]

Yes it is about £165 k at today’s on the road price, I just popped it in configurator that’s still live to see what it might have been.
We have gone from a bun fight on release with silly overs to normal depreciation.But any one who bought/ buys a new 4RS at list with minimal extras won’t see much of a loss perhaps 30% over 3-5 years which is normal depreciation for a Porsche sports cars.
The 4RS is a fantastic car, and some thing I hoped Porsche would build since the first cayman in 2005 and is my dream car but I only want a one garage now as my priorities have changed and the 4RS does not make a good daily all year round car, not that it’s not capable but no good for ferrying children/grandchildren, tip runs etc.

[TDT]

LiamH66 said:

I'm not sure that would have been over £160k 2 years ago when it was new. Almost certainly not when it was ordered, which may have been a year or more before that. Wild guess of £155k in that spec. So it has depreciated maybe 15% in 2 years/5k miles? Doesn't seem that terrible to me.

But yes, the world has changed in many ways. GT4 RS allocations became much easier to get from about a year ago (around the time I got one, which I don't believe to be a coincidence). You can find them new; you can find them used for less than people paid for them; but I have no reason to ask the OPC if you can order them, because I already have one.

Edit: Surprisingly, Auto Express had a look at slowest depreciating cars in the UK over 3 years back in January. 2 Porsches made the list. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/107122/car...

Edited by LiamH66 on Thursday 1st May 22:55

[Freakuk]

TDT said:

LiamH66 said:

I'm not sure that would have been over £160k 2 years ago when it was new. Almost certainly not when it was ordered, which may have been a year or more before that. Wild guess of £155k in that spec. So it has depreciated maybe 15% in 2 years/5k miles? Doesn't seem that terrible to me.

But yes, the world has changed in many ways. GT4 RS allocations became much easier to get from about a year ago (around the time I got one, which I don't believe to be a coincidence). You can find them new; you can find them used for less than people paid for them; but I have no reason to ask the OPC if you can order them, because I already have one.

Edit: Surprisingly, Auto Express had a look at slowest depreciating cars in the UK over 3 years back in January. 2 Porsches made the list. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/107122/car...

Edited by LiamH66 on Thursday 1st May 22:55

3 if I am being picky, you missed the Macan in at No. 10

[GT4P]

The figures they have used don’t include extras which is a bit misleading when Japanese cars have very little extras to factory order. Most Macans end up at around £70k+ new, and the 2.0T is lease favourable over the MacanS

[J-P]

So I understand that 718 will cease production in October this year. Anybody heard any different? I know there was some talk of an extension because nobody wants to buy electric.

[TDT]

GT4P said:

The figures they have used don’t include extras which is a bit misleading when Japanese cars have very little extras to factory order. Most Macans end up at around £70k+ new, and the 2.0T is lease favourable over the MacanS

You rarely get much money back on options when it comes to trade in, and when GFV are calculated. Options are the profit centres for manufacturers, as well as the finance itself.

Specifically for the GT4RS... as I've said before whilst everyone is of course free to make their own choices, once it was not announced as a numbered/plaqued car... going crazy on options never made financial sense... only 2 options have an impact on the driving experience... PCCBs and Mags.

[GT4P]

TDT said:

You rarely get much money back on options when it comes to trade in, and when GFV are calculated. Options are the profit centres for manufacturers, as well as the finance itself.

Specifically for the GT4RS... as I've said before whilst everyone is of course free to make their own choices, once it was not announced as a numbered/plaqued car... going crazy on options never made financial sense... only 2 options have an impact on the driving experience... PCCBs and Mags.

Less is more.
The 4RS is good out the box there is really few options you need to add, not so long ago I did a spec and think it came in at £130k plus otr costs

Edit perfect spec.

https://porsche-code.com/PSZ3BZE5

Edited by GT4P on Friday 2nd May 14:25

[elisered]

J-P said:

So I understand that 718 will cease production in October this year. Anybody heard any different? I know there was some talk of an extension because nobody wants to buy electric.

Osnabruck has been announced as closing in 2025 - unless this changes or they switch production back to Zuffenhausen then it’s hard to see how 718 manufacture can continue. I think there are also issues with the compliance of mainstream 718 models beyond 2025 though I guess these might not be relevant for low volume examples.

Porsche have dug themselves into a bit of a hole with the Boxster/Cayman - likely to be limited appetite for an all electric version, based on the Taycan/Macan track record and volumes now too low to justify updated versions of the current models. Osnabruck is only viable at the moment because it’s shared with VW.

[MannyLon]

TDT said:

You rarely get much money back on options when it comes to trade in, and when GFV are calculated. Options are the profit centres for manufacturers, as well as the finance itself.

Specifically for the GT4RS... as I've said before whilst everyone is of course free to make their own choices, once it was not announced as a numbered/plaqued car... going crazy on options never made financial sense... only 2 options have an impact on the driving experience... PCCBs and Mags.

Depends on how you define experience
Carbon air box adds to the sound and for me a must have!

[J-P]

elisered said:

J-P said:

So I understand that 718 will cease production in October this year. Anybody heard any different? I know there was some talk of an extension because nobody wants to buy electric.

Osnabruck has been announced as closing in 2025 - unless this changes or they switch production back to Zuffenhausen then it’s hard to see how 718 manufacture can continue. I think there are also issues with the compliance of mainstream 718 models beyond 2025 though I guess these might not be relevant for low volume examples.

Porsche have dug themselves into a bit of a hole with the Boxster/Cayman - likely to be limited appetite for an all electric version, based on the Taycan/Macan track record and volumes now too low to justify updated versions of the current models. Osnabruck is only viable at the moment because it’s shared with VW.

Bummer - I wanted to get one next year but that looks like it's out of the picture now. Doesn't look like getting one this year is viable for me. Oh well, suppose I could get a used one?

[kmpowell]

MR car has appeared at South Lakes…

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 4th May 12:08

[PRO5T]

kmpowell said:

MR car has appeared at South Lakes…

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 4th May 12:08

This car was at their Manthey evening, not sure if it's a customer car or a family owned one.

[J-P]

kmpowell said:

MR car has appeared at South Lakes…

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 4th May 12:08

Phwoar - lovely! Price is a little punchy though!

[ChrisW.]

https://jzmporsche.com/cars/porsche-718-p0700/

Very expensive considering that this car has ST discs and has been on the market for a very long time. At a good price given the full MR car cost but for some reason MR doesn't convert into much of a price premium ??

[fridaypassion]

J-P said:

Phwoar - lovely! Price is a little punchy though!

2021 Called they want their prices back!