GT4RS - Availability, what’s the latest?
GT4RS - Availability, what’s the latest?
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ian_md

2,893 posts

193 months

Thursday 22nd January
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fridaypassion said:
They had some made it to the showroom floors with no no customers! I bought mine new from Porche Leeds with no buying history. Heard on the grapevine they were struggling with them and put some feelers out. Got offered 2/3 spec locked but ended up with a full speccable build.
Well that just makes me angry lol but congrats to you

purpleperil

1,223 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd January
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ian_md said:
Sorry if this is old news. I assume that all GT4RS and SpyderRS's are done now, but is it true at some point recently dealers were able to offer slots to more than just their favourite customers? Asking because my allocation never came to fruition so I stopped paying attention for a good while in frustration!
No buying history but managed to get a PTS slot for an SRS. Spec'd in Dec '24 and delivered in May '25

fridaypassion

11,078 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd January
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Mate of mine got a 992RS with no buying history it's all smoke and mirrors now.

There are probably enough lemmings to support overs on manual tourings but that's about it for the porsche speculation game.

ian_md

2,893 posts

193 months

Thursday 22nd January
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fridaypassion said:
Mate of mine got a 992RS with no buying history it's all smoke and mirrors now.

There are probably enough lemmings to support overs on manual tourings but that's about it for the porsche speculation game.
That's nice to hear after playing 10 years of games with my dealerships, writing into contracts etc to secure GT products!

fridaypassion

11,078 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd January
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Not something I ever ranged to get involved with I thought the whole have was totally stupid but hey ho I had a great time running around in none Porsche cars until everyone just calmed down!

hughcam

435 posts

187 months

Friday 23rd January
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fridaypassion said:
Not something I ever ranged to get involved with I thought the whole have was totally stupid but hey ho I had a great time running around in none Porsche cars until everyone just calmed down!
Hehe you’re on the wind up hehe


fridaypassion

11,078 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd January
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hughcam said:
Hehe you re on the wind up hehe
I know why you're sniffing round on the GT4RS thread biggrin

elisered

314 posts

104 months

Friday 23rd January
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purpleperil said:
ian_md said:
Sorry if this is old news. I assume that all GT4RS and SpyderRS's are done now, but is it true at some point recently dealers were able to offer slots to more than just their favourite customers? Asking because my allocation never came to fruition so I stopped paying attention for a good while in frustration!
No buying history but managed to get a PTS slot for an SRS. Spec'd in Dec '24 and delivered in May '25
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product “strategy”.

fridaypassion

11,078 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd January
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elisered said:
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
The OPC game was strong I literally put people onto a couple of spec locked cars and on the very same day people were told none available. I did have a bit of an in at Leeds as I had a 718 gt4 factory order they let me down on (remember when the PCCB and Clubsports stuff wasn't available?) but only ever bought a Macan new and no used cars. I'm glad I got it I would never have got one in the spec I have (none WP but almost every other option) even if they do another ICE one it will be 200k and have loads of the bing bong crap on it. The last proper mid engined ICE Porsche.

BlackR8

515 posts

99 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Frankychops said:
virdeeb said:
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

This car was up for sale last week at £140k and checking today they've added £6.5k to it and it's now just £2k below the brand new price!

It's pretty basic in terms of spec too so seems like they are chancing their arm.
it looks like they're chancing it at that. I was at an OPC at the weekend and they openly admitted they can't sell them all at the min, there's brand new in the system for less than original list.
OPC's down to only 8 GT4RS for sale nationwide, something seems to have changed in recent months as the number of cars available feels low.
Maybe they have found their floor or close to it where people are ready to buy. Or the OPC's are playing a game of holding stock back to shore up demand and prices??

That being said, looks like there aren't many more available across all of autotrader with independents etc either so I suspect it is the former that is happening.

TDT

6,090 posts

141 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Autotrader charging model probably having an effect also on the general number of listings.
If model is slow seller no point listing it via AT.

On the other hand. No ICE 718 on the horizon and even if it does come back will not be NA and it wont be running a cup car engine.
So that only means probably good things, if future values are a factor and we are still allowed to pump dinosaur juice.

Edited by TDT on Tuesday 3rd February 17:52

fridaypassion

11,078 posts

250 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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Im a bit of an outlier for a porsche owner in that I don't really obsess about the value and it's months since I looked at them on Autotrader. Last time I did there were
nearly double the number on there. Not bad as spring selling season is slowly cranking up.

Might be down to 4 or 5 in March/April. It's a speculator free market so the people buying these cars now should be longer term owners. End of production is always going to get up (some) of the people that forever sit on the fence convincing themselves they are going to buy one. Now or never if you want a new or nearly new one.

BlackR8

515 posts

99 months

Tuesday 3rd February
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fridaypassion said:
Im a bit of an outlier for a porsche owner in that I don't really obsess about the value and it's months since I looked at them on Autotrader. Last time I did there were
nearly double the number on there. Not bad as spring selling season is slowly cranking up.

Might be down to 4 or 5 in March/April. It's a speculator free market so the people buying these cars now should be longer term owners. End of production is always going to get up (some) of the people that forever sit on the fence convincing themselves they are going to buy one. Now or never if you want a new or nearly new one.
Same here, I recall there being loads more GT4 RS's and the general consensus on forum posts were all about Porsche struggling to sell them and prices are going to be in free fall etc. Might be a case of people realising that buying at a good £20k or so under list is not a bad point to jump in.

Digga

45,855 posts

305 months

Wednesday 4th February
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BlackR8 said:
fridaypassion said:
Im a bit of an outlier for a porsche owner in that I don't really obsess about the value and it's months since I looked at them on Autotrader. Last time I did there were
nearly double the number on there. Not bad as spring selling season is slowly cranking up.

Might be down to 4 or 5 in March/April. It's a speculator free market so the people buying these cars now should be longer term owners. End of production is always going to get up (some) of the people that forever sit on the fence convincing themselves they are going to buy one. Now or never if you want a new or nearly new one.
Same here, I recall there being loads more GT4 RS's and the general consensus on forum posts were all about Porsche struggling to sell them and prices are going to be in free fall etc. Might be a case of people realising that buying at a good £20k or so under list is not a bad point to jump in.
Not talking up my own car here, because I do not have a 4RS, but I think they got to the point where they simply could not be ignored; a really great car and a sensible (ish) price.

I was very, very close to buying one that JZM had, but my heart had always wanted to own a GT3 RS, so I bought one of those, knowing that I was paying more money for an older car, with slightly more miles, that was (in my hands at least) not going to deliver any more driving enjoyment or pace.

Overall, on most GT cars, the froth seems to have diminished a bit. They are (mostly, 997.2 RS perhaps apart) not investments IMHO.

Jimbo_vx

334 posts

258 months

Wednesday 4th February
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Yep, i think all these sentiments are right.

It’s just the model moving into new hands, different ownership prospect, who intend to keep them for a long time and who will never pay overs.

I’ve just bought one of the last new ones, below list, intention to keep forever. Not the most desirable spec I’m sure, but just what i wanted and therefore no specified for the speculator market.

I also didn’t want a multi-owner under 1k mile car as i don’t believe any of them will have been properly run in.

Oh and it’s my first Porsche and the OPC was really great to deal with. Times are changing, in 2019, i wrote to every OPC begging to buy a GT4, half of them told me to ps off and the other half didn’t reply.


BlackR8

515 posts

99 months

Wednesday 4th February
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Jimbo_vx said:
Yep, i think all these sentiments are right.

It s just the model moving into new hands, different ownership prospect, who intend to keep them for a long time and who will never pay overs.

I ve just bought one of the last new ones, below list, intention to keep forever. Not the most desirable spec I m sure, but just what i wanted and therefore no specified for the speculator market.

I also didn t want a multi-owner under 1k mile car as i don t believe any of them will have been properly run in.

Oh and it s my first Porsche and the OPC was really great to deal with. Times are changing, in 2019, i wrote to every OPC begging to buy a GT4, half of them told me to ps off and the other half didn t reply.
I remember buying a used 911 Porsche a few years ago from an OPC in the midlands and at the time of collecting my then new car I mentioned if could I be put on the list (even if it was a long waiting list) for the 718 GT4 that was due to be released in the not too distant future, and they literally laughed and didn't even put me down as they said it would be no point as there is no chance you will ever get one grumpy

elisered

314 posts

104 months

Wednesday 4th February
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BlackR8 said:
I remember buying a used 911 Porsche a few years ago from an OPC in the midlands and at the time of collecting my then new car I mentioned if could I be put on the list (even if it was a long waiting list) for the 718 GT4 that was due to be released in the not too distant future, and they literally laughed and didn't even put me down as they said it would be no point as there is no chance you will ever get one grumpy
Had very similar experience at quite possibly the same OPC when I enquired about updating my 981 Spyder to the next version.
What goes around comes around - bought my high spec SRS elsewhere last year (without any fun and games) trading the Spyder which they sold immediately.
The present Porsche range must make for a tough sell in the current economic environment - especially given the massive expansion in the number of dealerships.

ChrisW.

8,024 posts

277 months

Wednesday 4th February
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Jimbo_vx said:
Yep, i think all these sentiments are right.

It s just the model moving into new hands, different ownership prospect, who intend to keep them for a long time and who will never pay overs.

I ve just bought one of the last new ones, below list, intention to keep forever. Not the most desirable spec I m sure, but just what i wanted and therefore no specified for the speculator market.

I also didn t want a multi-owner under 1k mile car as i don t believe any of them will have been properly run in.

Oh and it s my first Porsche and the OPC was really great to deal with. Times are changing, in 2019, i wrote to every OPC begging to buy a GT4, half of them told me to ps off and the other half didn t reply.
Congratulations ... they can't make them anymore and there's no clarity on what is coming next. We can guess it will be a Hybrid of some sort but Porsche will need to be very careful to manage the vehicle mass ... and maybe to justify the development costs against likely sales volume this may just be the next 911 ??

davidc1

1,618 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th February
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I think with there being no new boxster or cayman they should do a 90k 911 . A cs.

TDT

6,090 posts

141 months

Wednesday 4th February
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davidc1 said:
I think with there being no new boxster or cayman they should do a 90k 911 . A cs.
Unfortunately - no chance.
Prices only go up, and dont come back down.

The car you are describing is the 991.2 Carrera T.

Current 992.2 version T starts at 115k and base Carrera is 103.