GT4RS - Availability, what’s the latest?
Discussion
elisered said:
Had very similar experience at quite possibly the same OPC when I enquired about updating my 981 Spyder to the next version.
What goes around comes around - bought my high spec SRS elsewhere last year (without any fun and games) trading the Spyder which they sold immediately.
The present Porsche range must make for a tough sell in the current economic environment - especially given the massive expansion in the number of dealerships.
JCT are demolishing the leeds site and building a massive new site they just be pretty confident. There VAG group has a lot of power they have basically told the whole EU that the zero (tailpipe) emissions thing had to stop. They will hopefully lobby to do something to keep the Chinese out next. What goes around comes around - bought my high spec SRS elsewhere last year (without any fun and games) trading the Spyder which they sold immediately.
The present Porsche range must make for a tough sell in the current economic environment - especially given the massive expansion in the number of dealerships.
I think we've been pretty lucky to live at this time when we get the experience of the older cars and my 4RS could well see my days out. I'm not interested in hybrid overcomplicated cars even if they are quicker in a straight line. The 9k rev limit and crazy sound track will never be bettered. We've had a bit of a blip due to high production numbers coming together with a lousy economy but we do have an era defining car I think. There's nothing else left for me to tick a box off personally.
Monitoring the prices is irrelevant for me it's still worth what I paid until the day I sell it so value up down or the same doesn't matter. It's like checking your pension every day when you're only 35 why bother?
But the above margins show just how quickly Porsche's horizon has changed ...
And if you own a house and a small pension when you peg it, the IHT will write off 40% of your losses in exchange for all the fun that you have had.
My real soft spot is for the small hot-hatch ... Renaultsport is no more, exchanged for the Alpine brand, but for the best part of 20 years they were at the top of their game (after Peugeot) ... so much fun for the money.
And if you own a house and a small pension when you peg it, the IHT will write off 40% of your losses in exchange for all the fun that you have had.
My real soft spot is for the small hot-hatch ... Renaultsport is no more, exchanged for the Alpine brand, but for the best part of 20 years they were at the top of their game (after Peugeot) ... so much fun for the money.
ChrisW. said:
But the above margins show just how quickly Porsche's horizon has changed ...
And if you own a house and a small pension when you peg it, the IHT will write off 40% of your losses in exchange for all the fun that you have had.
My real soft spot is for the small hot-hatch ... Renaultsport is no more, exchanged for the Alpine brand, but for the best part of 20 years they were at the top of their game (after Peugeot) ... so much fun for the money.
O/T about a very long time ago, PH organised a day at Bedford Autodrome. There was about 100 of us and we all drove different cars on various circuits and everyone's lap times were recorded for an overall leaderboard on the day. Since my own track cars were read drive, I did not hold high hopes for the Renault Megane race car (was a long way from a standard road car). Low expectations of both the car and my own ability in it. IIRC I was in top 5 times of the day and had an absolute hoot. Loved it.And if you own a house and a small pension when you peg it, the IHT will write off 40% of your losses in exchange for all the fun that you have had.
My real soft spot is for the small hot-hatch ... Renaultsport is no more, exchanged for the Alpine brand, but for the best part of 20 years they were at the top of their game (after Peugeot) ... so much fun for the money.
fridaypassion said:
elisered said:
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
The OPC game was strong I literally put people onto a couple of spec locked cars and on the very same day people were told none available. I did have a bit of an in at Leeds as I had a 718 gt4 factory order they let me down on (remember when the PCCB and Clubsports stuff wasn't available?) but only ever bought a Macan new and no used cars. I'm glad I got it I would never have got one in the spec I have (none WP but almost every other option) even if they do another ICE one it will be 200k and have loads of the bing bong crap on it. The last proper mid engined ICE Porsche. Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
J-P said:
fridaypassion said:
elisered said:
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
The OPC game was strong I literally put people onto a couple of spec locked cars and on the very same day people were told none available. I did have a bit of an in at Leeds as I had a 718 gt4 factory order they let me down on (remember when the PCCB and Clubsports stuff wasn't available?) but only ever bought a Macan new and no used cars. I'm glad I got it I would never have got one in the spec I have (none WP but almost every other option) even if they do another ICE one it will be 200k and have loads of the bing bong crap on it. The last proper mid engined ICE Porsche. Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
TDT said:
Might be ICE - won't be NA. Euro 7 as of November 2026 takes care of that!.
Does this mean all GT3 and GT4 RS's going forward will be ICE but potentially turbo or with N/A with Hybrid tech (bit like the Revuelto and the like?) That may explain why as production has ended the 4RS's are being snapped up and disappearing into longer term ownership? The GT3's still have the RS and the .2 in production so I guess there isn't quite the same conditions, but I guess it will be the same with these too when production ends.
Any new NA only model has to be released this year for Europe - and then that's the end.. unless they push back again.
RoW can still get NA only
But as Porsche make worldwide cars, and up the creak with finances now, they will not be making market specific versions.. (e.g like they did with 718 Spyder for China 2.0T.)
So to bring this back to 718RS, rather than general state of car industry... buy one whilst you can... and enjoy it!
RoW can still get NA only
But as Porsche make worldwide cars, and up the creak with finances now, they will not be making market specific versions.. (e.g like they did with 718 Spyder for China 2.0T.)
So to bring this back to 718RS, rather than general state of car industry... buy one whilst you can... and enjoy it!
Edited by TDT on Thursday 5th February 12:29
Mezgerking said:
Topaz PPF quote:
track pack £2400 plus vat
full PPF £5000 plus vat
Stage 1 detail £550 plus vat
G techniq £999 plus vat
Expensive!
I paid less than this at Topaz last week (full car PPF) and it included transport to and from dealer. There are deals to be done. The finish is incredible.track pack £2400 plus vat
full PPF £5000 plus vat
Stage 1 detail £550 plus vat
G techniq £999 plus vat
Expensive!
peterdent said:
Full PPF and new road tax .... over r£ 10 k on new car , that is a whole 2 weekends of race tyres .
Good point, when looking at the original list price + options of a used car, you can easily add another £10k to the new price for the first year VED and full PPF which many get done on new cars straight away especially if they are spending circa. £150k.TDT said:
J-P said:
fridaypassion said:
elisered said:
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
The OPC game was strong I literally put people onto a couple of spec locked cars and on the very same day people were told none available. I did have a bit of an in at Leeds as I had a 718 gt4 factory order they let me down on (remember when the PCCB and Clubsports stuff wasn't available?) but only ever bought a Macan new and no used cars. I'm glad I got it I would never have got one in the spec I have (none WP but almost every other option) even if they do another ICE one it will be 200k and have loads of the bing bong crap on it. The last proper mid engined ICE Porsche. Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
J-P said:
TDT said:
J-P said:
fridaypassion said:
elisered said:
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
The OPC game was strong I literally put people onto a couple of spec locked cars and on the very same day people were told none available. I did have a bit of an in at Leeds as I had a 718 gt4 factory order they let me down on (remember when the PCCB and Clubsports stuff wasn't available?) but only ever bought a Macan new and no used cars. I'm glad I got it I would never have got one in the spec I have (none WP but almost every other option) even if they do another ICE one it will be 200k and have loads of the bing bong crap on it. The last proper mid engined ICE Porsche. Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
BlackR8 said:
J-P said:
TDT said:
J-P said:
fridaypassion said:
elisered said:
Similar timeline for my car; had purchased one used car 7 years prior from the OPC I used for my SRS and they were totally professional and honest throughout.
Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
The OPC game was strong I literally put people onto a couple of spec locked cars and on the very same day people were told none available. I did have a bit of an in at Leeds as I had a 718 gt4 factory order they let me down on (remember when the PCCB and Clubsports stuff wasn't available?) but only ever bought a Macan new and no used cars. I'm glad I got it I would never have got one in the spec I have (none WP but almost every other option) even if they do another ICE one it will be 200k and have loads of the bing bong crap on it. The last proper mid engined ICE Porsche. Two other dealers were totally indifferent despite it being obvious that slots were available - including the one who regularly serviced the car I traded in.
Customer service in many walks of life is now a rarity and garages selling fancy cars are no exception in my experience. I think that sadly there will be several less OPCs around as a result in a few years time - particularly given the recent Porsche product strategy .
.TDT said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
They'll be in stock, just not listed. They're creating an impression of short supply. That's my assumption .
I think they are selling, but also I can fully believe there is a decent element of shelf management occurring also..I've skin in the game so to speak, and would like values to hold. They probably will hold nominally - new prices of stuff constantly on the up and fewer comparable options.
Longer term, will I have a garage full of - effectively - scrap which I can't drive anywhere unless I pay grand for a tank of super taxed bio fuel? I tend to put that thought to the back of my mind tbh. and just enjoy.
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