GT4RS - Availability, what’s the latest?
Discussion
GT4RS said:
finmac said:
P40L VX said:
PRO5T said:
A yellow one coming up on collecting cars soon.
I wonder what an ECU fault is?? "A replacement engine was fitted under warranty by Porsche at 854 miles, following the first owner complaining about an ECU fault"Must of been a very serious engine light issue, could there be an engine recall coming like the 991.1 gt3 ?
lucianfreud said:
I sent my GT4RS configuration code to 3 or 4 OPC’s yesterday in the hope of a build slot at some point in the future…..after all they are making a lot of them.
I was subsequently told allocations are all taken but would I like a really boring spec used 4RS over list price?
They say nothing in life is certain other than death and taxes. To this I would like to add the certainty that contacting an OPC sales team will lead to irritation.
It is not an easy process and can at times be definatly deeply frustrating. Thing is, these are still very low volume highly desireable cars, thus, as many others have said there are hoops to jump through. If you can be bothered putting some effort in then wait till next round of allocations and hit the phones - you may find one - but be prepared to have to move fast with a deposit and also potentially take stuff you don’t want, like a low trade in price, a watch, finance or ceramic coating etc etc. If you can’t be bothered with “the dance” (and I would not blame you) then my advice is to buy something else potentially! I was subsequently told allocations are all taken but would I like a really boring spec used 4RS over list price?
They say nothing in life is certain other than death and taxes. To this I would like to add the certainty that contacting an OPC sales team will lead to irritation.
jzma said:
I did the same last month and said I would trade my GT4 in to the dealer.
Got the usual spiel about loyal customers etc.
One came back to me with a slot if I buy a Taycan before month end which I gladly declined.
“Buy a Taycan” hilarious. Be cheaper paying overs for the Gt4RS itself….Got the usual spiel about loyal customers etc.
One came back to me with a slot if I buy a Taycan before month end which I gladly declined.
GT4RS said:
GT4RS said:
PRO5T said:
A yellow one coming up on collecting cars soon.
The last gt4rs sold on collecting cars went for £227k back in Jan 2023, be interesting to see what this gets bid to. LiamH66 said:
jackwood said:
Congrats Liam!!
So which cars are going/staying and what spec are you going for? The excitement must be unreal right now!
Thanks @jackwood, and everyone else for all the good wishes. Beyond excited, I was hoping to get the deposit transferred and order signed today just so I know it's really happening. But the promised email didn't turn up today, so I'm slightly anxious, as well as incredibly excited.So which cars are going/staying and what spec are you going for? The excitement must be unreal right now!
Fortunately no need to rush to decide what I'm selling. The obvious thing will be to move the 981 GT4 on, and keep the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 as the daily. I'd like to keep all 3 really. However I have agreed to a strict "one in, one out" on vehicles with my wife, and I cheated a little bit by hanging onto both motorcycles when I bought a third last year. There's also the option of swapping the GTS 4.0 for something a little more ordinary at some point, but I doubt I'll rush into that. Slightly overkill as a "winter hack", but it's a very good car!
I did have a quick play on the configurator last night, and noticed that PTS can only be selected with WP as an option. That means that the difference between standard colours non-WP and PTS is almost £20k as a minimum. I've never been a massive fan of visible carbon weave on the outside of cars. Luckily Carrara White isn't available even as PTS, so I may well just get yet another plain white one. I love Gentian Blue, but I hate trying to keep dark metallic colour cars looking their best.
Steel cage, carbon bucket seats, harnesses for both seats and front axle lift are all must-haves for me. Probably iron discs and ally wheels for the sake of keeping maintenance costs reasonable if I do track it a lot (I live on a single-track road that's often badly pot-holed, so concerned that mag wheels would suffer). Leather interior, or of course WP interior also looks really good.
So as @ChrisW. has mentioned: To WP or not to WP? That is the question!
Liam
Edited by LiamH66 on Thursday 2nd May 22:19
Dare you to join the highly exclusive non WP club
LiamH66 said:
finmac said:
Congratulations, mine entered build this week.
Dare you to join the highly exclusive non WP club
You must be very excited @finmac, not long to go now! Seems like we are planning similar patterns of frequent use to one another. The pictures of your spec look really good, but I'm likely to go for white. I really like the look of the "white with WP" used car that Porsche Centre Guildford have. If it only had front axle lift, and was about £20k less, I may not have still been waiting in line.Dare you to join the highly exclusive non WP club
So currently the balance is tipped towards WP, but I have a couple of weeks to mull it over yet.
. WP will work well with white - great contrast with the bare cf. Took this out yesterday for a decent run and it’s annual MOT/service. First time driven since October, what a machine. If I’m honest, having driven it again now after such a long layoff and having never even test driven the 4RS, I just hope it cuts the mustard, it’s got some proper competition!
gt4rs.wp said:
Liam - congratulations. I’ve been fortunate to spec x 2 new cars - long story! The first was PCCB n/a and the 2nd was everything available except PTS. No longer have either as they are too harsh to daily @ circa1000 miles per month.
My advice would be to spec as cheap as possible, skip the PPF and just drive it. If there is no exposed carbon fibre, everything else can be painted if required. PCCB’s scoring the wheels - it’s just a case of when and not if, can be expensive if the mags get damaged too! No need to upgrade the stereo, you won’t be able to hear it anyway.
If I was going to spec another:-
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRQF...
Best of luck, enjoy!
Interesting viewpoint. For me, the sweet spot is low spec/price point. Too dear and it’s heading right into GT3 territory, which made less sense to me at least. As such that’s the approach I have adopted and very close to the same spec you have here - one or two cheap extra tweaks on mine plus the paint cost. Suspect I will PPF mine as I go out with mates quite a lot and the PPF will help in terms of the front end of the car not getting peppered early on. My advice would be to spec as cheap as possible, skip the PPF and just drive it. If there is no exposed carbon fibre, everything else can be painted if required. PCCB’s scoring the wheels - it’s just a case of when and not if, can be expensive if the mags get damaged too! No need to upgrade the stereo, you won’t be able to hear it anyway.
If I was going to spec another:-
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRQF...
Best of luck, enjoy!
jasonrobertson86 said:
Amazing, looking forward to hear how you get on with it. The alternative of course is to just pick one up for list on collecting cars rather than all the relationships nonsense
I suspect that may well be the case going forward, if of course you are brave enough to potentially spend £130/£150K in an auction with zero comeback and don’t mind someone else’s spec.This weeks yellow one would have needed an even braver than usual auction buying brave pill, given it had a replacement engine and no roll cage
jzma said:
Congrats on the allocation!
Looking at used examples on the approved site - what was the list price of cars registered after April 23?
Most of the cars have links to their respective online configurations - are these prices on these inclusive of price rises or has the price not changed since April 23.
Cheers.
Last price rise was 29th March 2023, so over 13 months ago now. I have heard rumours of another price rise for MY 2026 - who knows though….Looking at used examples on the approved site - what was the list price of cars registered after April 23?
Most of the cars have links to their respective online configurations - are these prices on these inclusive of price rises or has the price not changed since April 23.
Cheers.
resolve10 said:
neilf said:
Sorry to derail the thread slightly but I've been looking at booking a PEC experience as a treat sometime this year and really fancy a 4RS or Sypder RS but they're not on the website currently - when you say fleet I assume they'll be making it available for experience use? I'll give them a call if that's the impression you got.LiamH66 said:
I seem to remember at launch they said it was never intended to be a limited edition, and they hoped to make enough that everyone that really wanted one could get one. Seems to be coming true for you and me, @Ki5h. Probably means that they will depreciate a little, but from my perspective, that in turn will make me more cheerful about using my one a little more when it comes.
My OPC have told me they don't know if they are getting any more GT4 RS allocations for build after the summer shutdown, but that might well have been to encourage me to grab the one they hadn't been expecting. They didn't need to, and I think they know that, so maybe they really will be thin on the ground, at least in the UK.
Liam
Taking about think on the ground, OK I live in Scotland, but I am out and about a lot driving and have still never seen a 4RS anywhere other than a showroom or at the Porsche experience - a very rare beast indeed in the road! My OPC have told me they don't know if they are getting any more GT4 RS allocations for build after the summer shutdown, but that might well have been to encourage me to grab the one they hadn't been expecting. They didn't need to, and I think they know that, so maybe they really will be thin on the ground, at least in the UK.
Liam
kmpowell said:
av185 said:
Wouldn't bother me as personally never spec them but no LEDs on that car....majority of buyers appear to want them and to a lesser degree no Chrono may be impacting sale.
Agreed. The terminator lights, no chrono, and overall fear of mags, is prob the killer for that.bennno said:
donutskidmark said:
bennno said:
My GT4 was unusable without nose lift so it got swapped for a nearly new 540C at a similar price. That was other worldly in terms of the performance gap.
To be fair compared to the GT4 the GT4RS is other worldly in terms of the performance gap. in terms of rattles, vibrations and flashing warning lights (main dealer car!). Anyway, that aside, it’s the running costs that kill the Mc 720 etc for me - I’d not run without the Mc warranty and I suspect I’d always be worried about a big bill - thus removing a lotOf the pleasure. Saying all that, I do understand why
People buy them - proper supercar looks/power and a lot cheaper than equivalent Italian stuff….
LiamH66 said:
Mine was due to enter production on June 20th, I think, but still hasn't, so coming up to 2 weeks slippage on that one. The slightly more painful part of the wait is once it's awaiting shipping, which from my previous few Porsche orders in recent years, can be 2-4 weeks without movement. I've always added a month at least to expected arrival date even close to build completion. Sadly, factory annual shutdown will be soon, so August builds will be slowed by that event's duration...
When I was told the expected dates for my GT4 RS build, I only took heed of the spec. freeze date, May 24th. I joked with the sales person that for the previous 3 cars it has been almost exactly 11 months from paying the deposit to getting a car. I paid the deposit on May 3rd, so if the car arrives this side of April Fool's Day 2025 I'll consider myself lucky. I was told this one will be happening really quickly, but in all seriousness, I thought September delivery a high hope even when everything was on track.
It must be a really painful process first time around with a GT4 RS, so I feel for anyone suffering that. My first was a base model Cayman in 2016/17. I went really long without being told what was happening. Consequently I even quietly contacted the sales person's boss to make sure I wasn't having my leg pulled about a car genuinely being on order. Nowadays I'm used to it, and will enjoy the weeks or months of relative peace before they tell me the car has been released from Emden, or maybe even reached a UK port.
At that point, I'll broach the subject of a new car with my wife. I am NOT about to spend 11 months in the dog house, but without the car I am hoping for. I'd rather cut that to a matter of weeks or even days by managing my own expectations. It really helps to be able to say that I'm pretty sure I told her about it when I ordered it, or couldn't tell her due to extenuating circumstances. "So when was that?" "Well, almost a year ago, so I'd kind of lost hope anyway."
The last car I bought last year (C GTS 4.0), I somehow got away with asking for a lift over to the PPF fitter's place to pick up a car. "What car?" An uncomfortable mood for the journey, but less than an hour away from home, so tolerable. The OPC had had the good sense to load the boot up with a hamper of Italian food delicacies on that occasion, which genuinely took edge off my return from work that evening.
Liam
If it’s anything like mine, it won’t be anything like 12 months - mine was mid Feb to early June (this year). When I was told the expected dates for my GT4 RS build, I only took heed of the spec. freeze date, May 24th. I joked with the sales person that for the previous 3 cars it has been almost exactly 11 months from paying the deposit to getting a car. I paid the deposit on May 3rd, so if the car arrives this side of April Fool's Day 2025 I'll consider myself lucky. I was told this one will be happening really quickly, but in all seriousness, I thought September delivery a high hope even when everything was on track.
It must be a really painful process first time around with a GT4 RS, so I feel for anyone suffering that. My first was a base model Cayman in 2016/17. I went really long without being told what was happening. Consequently I even quietly contacted the sales person's boss to make sure I wasn't having my leg pulled about a car genuinely being on order. Nowadays I'm used to it, and will enjoy the weeks or months of relative peace before they tell me the car has been released from Emden, or maybe even reached a UK port.
At that point, I'll broach the subject of a new car with my wife. I am NOT about to spend 11 months in the dog house, but without the car I am hoping for. I'd rather cut that to a matter of weeks or even days by managing my own expectations. It really helps to be able to say that I'm pretty sure I told her about it when I ordered it, or couldn't tell her due to extenuating circumstances. "So when was that?" "Well, almost a year ago, so I'd kind of lost hope anyway."
The last car I bought last year (C GTS 4.0), I somehow got away with asking for a lift over to the PPF fitter's place to pick up a car. "What car?" An uncomfortable mood for the journey, but less than an hour away from home, so tolerable. The OPC had had the good sense to load the boot up with a hamper of Italian food delicacies on that occasion, which genuinely took edge off my return from work that evening.
Liam
Edited by LiamH66 on Wednesday 3rd July 23:26
As the guy responsible for starting this thread a couple of years ago. I did so as I wanted a new 4RS slot as a long term keeper. In my own personal experience I’d say that Patience, persistence, a good OPC and a decent buying history got me said slot and I pick up my car on Thursday. There will always be people who talk values up and those who talk values down, arm chair critics and actual owners, it’s the nature of these type of forums!
As others have said, if you want a 4RS go and hound as many OPCs as you can, have a deposit ready and be prepared to be offered a watch/ceramic coating/finance etc - espec if you don’t have a history with them, you might be lucky and avoid all the “extras” or at least some of them. Else, find a lightly used car close to list and buy that!
As others have said, if you want a 4RS go and hound as many OPCs as you can, have a deposit ready and be prepared to be offered a watch/ceramic coating/finance etc - espec if you don’t have a history with them, you might be lucky and avoid all the “extras” or at least some of them. Else, find a lightly used car close to list and buy that!
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