Do you like a Cayman 981 S yellow with interior bordeaux ?
Discussion
thank you for your answers.
But in your opinion, this yellow/red contrast that many people don't like (although I like it), can it be avoided or mitigated by using black/dark films on the windows?
That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...
I must also say that the red is very dark, the photos don't show it (you can understand it from the 4th pictures), it's actually a dark bordeaux, very different objectively from the fiery red of the McDonald's that some have mentioned
The car was originally in Abu Dhabi 6 years, then did 2 years in the czech republic and finally was imported to italy to be resold
In italy we have many basic black, white and grey 981s for sale, but the super-equipped porsche 981 S is virtually unobtainable.
It was originally offered for sale at 58,000 EUR, the seller would let me have it for 50,000 EUR including a Porsche service before final delivery (it is like 49.000 EUR). (1 EUR = 0,88GBP, but in italy we have in general the prices for the Porsche are higher than UK)
It has got 56000 miles, it s a 2014, but it seems brand new. Exceptional/perfect conditions.
This yellow 981S also has carbon trim, the carbon is even on the underside when one enters the car in the cayman s (bright) inscription, and on the sterring wheel.
It also looks like it came out of the dealer despite being 9 years old, with the porsche services done every year in the official porsche centre.
The alternative is to get for the same price a 2013 basic black 981 (not S), black interior, 20" wheels, sports exhaust and sport chrono, but alcantara interior, no carbon trim, no heated steering wheel, no memory seat and so on, but only 32000 miles. Here the pictures:
Thanks a lot for your comments and opinions
But in your opinion, this yellow/red contrast that many people don't like (although I like it), can it be avoided or mitigated by using black/dark films on the windows?
That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...
I must also say that the red is very dark, the photos don't show it (you can understand it from the 4th pictures), it's actually a dark bordeaux, very different objectively from the fiery red of the McDonald's that some have mentioned
The car was originally in Abu Dhabi 6 years, then did 2 years in the czech republic and finally was imported to italy to be resold
In italy we have many basic black, white and grey 981s for sale, but the super-equipped porsche 981 S is virtually unobtainable.
It was originally offered for sale at 58,000 EUR, the seller would let me have it for 50,000 EUR including a Porsche service before final delivery (it is like 49.000 EUR). (1 EUR = 0,88GBP, but in italy we have in general the prices for the Porsche are higher than UK)
It has got 56000 miles, it s a 2014, but it seems brand new. Exceptional/perfect conditions.
This yellow 981S also has carbon trim, the carbon is even on the underside when one enters the car in the cayman s (bright) inscription, and on the sterring wheel.
It also looks like it came out of the dealer despite being 9 years old, with the porsche services done every year in the official porsche centre.
The alternative is to get for the same price a 2013 basic black 981 (not S), black interior, 20" wheels, sports exhaust and sport chrono, but alcantara interior, no carbon trim, no heated steering wheel, no memory seat and so on, but only 32000 miles. Here the pictures:
Thanks a lot for your comments and opinions
Edited by Andre_Sant on Monday 23 January 15:41
Andre_Sant said:
But in your opinion, this yellow/red contrast that many people don't like (although I like it), can it be avoided or mitigated by using black/dark films on the windows?
That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...
I must be missing something here but if you like it, what difference does it make what anyone else on here thinks?That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...
If it is a well specced car, good history, in good condition and relatively cheap where is the problem - buy it and enjoy it.
When you come to sell it who knows what will happen, there will be people that will love it and you only need one buyer to sell a car. If that doesn't happen you move on to plan b and sell it cheaper than others on sale because you bought it cheap and have the money in hand.
Not a fan of dark tinting the windows, but might be different in Italy.
Exterior colour I like, interior I like, but much prefer that colour combined with black for the door rolls, dash top, steering wheel and mats.
But, as many have said, it’s what you like that matters, and it should always brighten your day.
Exterior colour I like, interior I like, but much prefer that colour combined with black for the door rolls, dash top, steering wheel and mats.
But, as many have said, it’s what you like that matters, and it should always brighten your day.
Andre_Sant said:
thank you for your answers.
But in your opinion, this yellow/red contrast that many people don't like (although I like it), can it be avoided or mitigated by using black/dark films on the windows?
That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...
I must also say that the red is very dark, the photos don't show it (you can understand it from the 4th pictures), it's actually a dark bordeaux, very different objectively from the fiery red of the McDonald's that some have mentioned
The car was originally in Abu Dhabi 6 years, then did 2 years in the czech republic and finally was imported to italy to be resold
In italy we have many basic black, white and grey 981s for sale, but the super-equipped porsche 981 S is virtually unobtainable.
It was originally offered for sale at 58,000 EUR, the seller would let me have it for 50,000 EUR including a Porsche service before final delivery (it is like 49.000 EUR). (1 EUR = 0,88GBP, but in italy we have in general the prices for the Porsche are higher than UK)
It has got 56000 miles, it s a 2014, but it seems brand new. Exceptional/perfect conditions.
This yellow 981S also has carbon trim, the carbon is even on the underside when one enters the car in the cayman s (bright) inscription, and on the sterring wheel.
It also looks like it came out of the dealer despite being 9 years old, with the porsche services done every year in the official porsche centre.
The alternative is to get for the same price a 2013 basic black 981 (not S), black interior, 20" wheels, sports exhaust and sport chrono, but alcantara interior, no carbon trim, no heated steering wheel, no memory seat and so on, but only 32000 miles. Here the pictures:
Thanks a lot for your comments and opinions
Seems clear to me that your heart is saying to get the yellow. You are defending the colour. You love the colour. You can’t be the only one across the entire LHD continent that would like it, resale wise. Why buy a car based on public consensus, it’s your car, buy what you want, not what a forum suggests. Therefore, get the yellow. But in your opinion, this yellow/red contrast that many people don't like (although I like it), can it be avoided or mitigated by using black/dark films on the windows?
That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...
I must also say that the red is very dark, the photos don't show it (you can understand it from the 4th pictures), it's actually a dark bordeaux, very different objectively from the fiery red of the McDonald's that some have mentioned
The car was originally in Abu Dhabi 6 years, then did 2 years in the czech republic and finally was imported to italy to be resold
In italy we have many basic black, white and grey 981s for sale, but the super-equipped porsche 981 S is virtually unobtainable.
It was originally offered for sale at 58,000 EUR, the seller would let me have it for 50,000 EUR including a Porsche service before final delivery (it is like 49.000 EUR). (1 EUR = 0,88GBP, but in italy we have in general the prices for the Porsche are higher than UK)
It has got 56000 miles, it s a 2014, but it seems brand new. Exceptional/perfect conditions.
This yellow 981S also has carbon trim, the carbon is even on the underside when one enters the car in the cayman s (bright) inscription, and on the sterring wheel.
It also looks like it came out of the dealer despite being 9 years old, with the porsche services done every year in the official porsche centre.
The alternative is to get for the same price a 2013 basic black 981 (not S), black interior, 20" wheels, sports exhaust and sport chrono, but alcantara interior, no carbon trim, no heated steering wheel, no memory seat and so on, but only 32000 miles. Here the pictures:
Thanks a lot for your comments and opinions
Edited by Andre_Sant on Monday 23 January 15:41
thank you very much for all your answers. I appreciated a lot.
some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me.
so I took a few days to hear from various car dealers, who told me that the car with this type of colouring would have a smaller market, but still would.
So I didn't find any dealers who told me: no, we would never buy it back at a reasonable price.
Regarding the colours: yes, if the car was black inside also according to my aesthetic taste it would be better. But you can not fine a 981 or 981S yellow in all europe (not-uk), except this one that i found in my city.
In general my best exterior colours for a Porsche are Blue and yellow.
I also inquired at various specialist in leather, but they all told me that changing the colours internally would be an extremely expensive and absurd job.
The most logical choice, as some of you have suggested, is to change the floor mats (putting them black instead of red) and possibly changing the steering wheel to a black 718.
Lastly, could put dark seat covers on, or, in the most extreme case, buy other black 18-way seats (which, however, used ones cost around 4000 euro a pair in Europe on ebay).
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There are two other alternatives, both very different:
1) get a blue 981 BASE in Munich, Germany. Not a very quick route for me as I would have to buy in another country. The 981 would be the base model at 47000 EUR with black interior. No leather, no chrono, no memory seats, but yes PSE. The final price is the same of the yellow because I have to pay the import costs.
you can see the car here:
https://youtu.be/Arl9sBMhZEE
2) totally different kind: a 997.1 4 sport version TARGA manual transmission, grey and black at 63000 EUR (but with much less "sound"). (the seller is, again, in my city).
some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me.
so I took a few days to hear from various car dealers, who told me that the car with this type of colouring would have a smaller market, but still would.
So I didn't find any dealers who told me: no, we would never buy it back at a reasonable price.
Regarding the colours: yes, if the car was black inside also according to my aesthetic taste it would be better. But you can not fine a 981 or 981S yellow in all europe (not-uk), except this one that i found in my city.
In general my best exterior colours for a Porsche are Blue and yellow.
I also inquired at various specialist in leather, but they all told me that changing the colours internally would be an extremely expensive and absurd job.
The most logical choice, as some of you have suggested, is to change the floor mats (putting them black instead of red) and possibly changing the steering wheel to a black 718.
Lastly, could put dark seat covers on, or, in the most extreme case, buy other black 18-way seats (which, however, used ones cost around 4000 euro a pair in Europe on ebay).
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There are two other alternatives, both very different:
1) get a blue 981 BASE in Munich, Germany. Not a very quick route for me as I would have to buy in another country. The 981 would be the base model at 47000 EUR with black interior. No leather, no chrono, no memory seats, but yes PSE. The final price is the same of the yellow because I have to pay the import costs.
you can see the car here:
https://youtu.be/Arl9sBMhZEE
2) totally different kind: a 997.1 4 sport version TARGA manual transmission, grey and black at 63000 EUR (but with much less "sound"). (the seller is, again, in my city).
Riskins said:
OEM multifunction option for 981, my GTS came with it which I’ve upgraded to a 718 Multifunction wheel.
I don't blame you. The 981 multi-function wheel is awful. I don't know what Porsche were thinking - not only does it look awful, it doesn't even have paddles. The sports steering wheel (the one shown above on that Black Cayman) is nicer, but still not great IMO.I really like the multi-function 718 wheel. How did you get this done and, if you don't mind my asking, how much did it cost? Thanks.
Regarding the yellow / red Cayman, I'd be more concerned that it was in Dubai & Czech before ending up in Italy. This is due to the potential for "losing" many kms every time its moved country, and potentially any damage records that might be recorded on national databases but with no international data available.
Personally I'd take that basic black low miles Cayman. I hate black cars, but for any 10+ yr old sport car I think good provenance is more important than a few silly options,
I do subscribe to the view that Porsche sports cars are for driving and therefore generally best in their basic versions. Not everyone will subscribe to this view, of course!
I subscribe that those thinking like this:
"some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me."
should not buy yellow cars with red leather interiors
(this is not a criticism of the OPs factor concern or the car itself - I just don't think they are very compatible)
"some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me."
should not buy yellow cars with red leather interiors
(this is not a criticism of the OPs factor concern or the car itself - I just don't think they are very compatible)
RiccardoG said:
Regarding the yellow / red Cayman, I'd be more concerned that it was in Dubai & Czech before ending up in Italy. This is due to the potential for "losing" many kms every time its moved country, and potentially any damage records that might be recorded on national databases but with no international data available.
Personally I'd take that basic black low miles Cayman. I hate black cars, but for any 10+ yr old sport car I think good provenance is more important than a few silly options,
I do subscribe to the view that Porsche sports cars are for driving and therefore generally best in their basic versions. Not everyone will subscribe to this view, of course!
yes it is true, but i have seen the service booklet and the car has received a service every year, at porsche abu dhabi and porsche prague, and everything seems okPersonally I'd take that basic black low miles Cayman. I hate black cars, but for any 10+ yr old sport car I think good provenance is more important than a few silly options,
I do subscribe to the view that Porsche sports cars are for driving and therefore generally best in their basic versions. Not everyone will subscribe to this view, of course!
the car is also in impeccable condition. i've never seen a used car more than 5 years old in such good condition. Even the leather inside doesn't have the slightest stripe in the seats.
the seller states that the car has never been damaged.
I think it's still possible to do a VIN check to see if the car has, or has not, been in an accident, don't you think? or can such reports also be falsified?
the car has the typical GTS front bumper, but I have verified that even in the 718 if one selects 'sport design package' one can have the 718 GTS front bumper put on the 718 and 718S
Adam. said:
I subscribe that those thinking like this:
"some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me."
should not buy yellow cars with red leather interiors
(this is not a criticism of the OPs factor concern or the car itself - I just don't think they are very compatible)
Ok, I understand your point, but I must also consider the fact that the prices is lowest than a 981S black black"some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me."
should not buy yellow cars with red leather interiors
(this is not a criticism of the OPs factor concern or the car itself - I just don't think they are very compatible)
For this 981S yellow red with many GTS specs, the price is like a 981 base black black with chrono only..
So, do you think that because the car costs less, but has 'unusual' colours, it will still be easily resaleable tomorrow at the price that a black 981 BASE black will have in the future?
Or will the black black 981 BASE still and always have a bigger market despite having the same price?
finally: what do you think of the other 2 cars I put above, the 981 BASE but blue/black and the manual 997 TARGA with 50.000miles?
Thanks a lot
rawenghey said:
I don't blame you. The 981 multi-function wheel is awful. I don't know what Porsche were thinking - not only does it look awful, it doesn't even have paddles. The sports steering wheel (the one shown above on that Black Cayman) is nicer, but still not great IMO.
I really like the multi-function 718 wheel. How did you get this done and, if you don't mind my asking, how much did it cost? Thanks.
Brand new wheel from Porsche, airbag from Porsche breaker on eBay & harness adapter from China. About £1700 all in which is a lot of cash but transformed the driving experience, very pleased.I really like the multi-function 718 wheel. How did you get this done and, if you don't mind my asking, how much did it cost? Thanks.
Andre_Sant said:
thank you very much for all your answers. I appreciated a lot.
some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me.
so I took a few days to hear from various car dealers, who told me that the car with this type of colouring would have a smaller market, but still would.
So I didn't find any dealers who told me: no, we would never buy it back at a reasonable price.
A dealer isn't going to tell you we would never buy it back, are they? It would stop you buying it. Once you have it though, its too late. You are then at their mercy, its worth whatever they or anyone interested in buying it, are willing to pay.some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me.
so I took a few days to hear from various car dealers, who told me that the car with this type of colouring would have a smaller market, but still would.
So I didn't find any dealers who told me: no, we would never buy it back at a reasonable price.
Andre_Sant said:
Ok, I understand your point, but I must also consider the fact that the prices is lowest than a 981S black black
For this 981S yellow red with many GTS specs, the price is like a 981 base black black with chrono only..
So, do you think that because the car costs less, but has 'unusual' colours, it will still be easily resaleable tomorrow at the price that a black 981 BASE black will have in the future?
Or will the black black 981 BASE still and always have a bigger market despite having the same price?
finally: what do you think of the other 2 cars I put above, the 981 BASE but blue/black and the manual 997 TARGA with 50.000miles?
Thanks a lot
Personally speaking, the yellow/red combo would mean I couldn't ever think about buying the car. So to me, the 981 base model would always be worth more, because I could buy it and happily drive around in it. So from a personal perspective, the unusual colour combination would do more than just devalue the car. I just wouldn't ever consider buying it. I'd consider the black/black 981.For this 981S yellow red with many GTS specs, the price is like a 981 base black black with chrono only..
So, do you think that because the car costs less, but has 'unusual' colours, it will still be easily resaleable tomorrow at the price that a black 981 BASE black will have in the future?
Or will the black black 981 BASE still and always have a bigger market despite having the same price?
finally: what do you think of the other 2 cars I put above, the 981 BASE but blue/black and the manual 997 TARGA with 50.000miles?
Thanks a lot
997 Targa? Yes, I'd also consider that one.
Just my thoughts - and you did ask for opinions. It's just mine, so take no more seriously than any other.
Liam
981Boxess said:
Thanks for the link, but it is 65.000 EURO VS 50.000 EURO.. a very big differenceand In this case I really can't like the interior in the 65.000 EURO version (I prefer a lot the red leather.. it is a personal taste of course..)
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I found also a black / black real 981 GTS for 66.500 EURO but I feel that the price is too high VS the 981S yellow / red at 50.000 EURO with GTS specs.
I tried to ask them for 60.000 EURO (from 66.500 EURO).. they will think about it..
Andre_Sant said:
the car has the typical GTS front bumper, but I have verified that even in the 718 if one selects 'sport design package' one can have the 718 GTS front bumper put on the 718 and 718S
you shouldn't be guessing these things, ask the seller for the service booklet and look at the sticker on the inside of the front cover IIRCthis will include an list of alphanumeric codes that confirm the orginal spec - colour inside and out, country code and cost options
then you can look them up
https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-boxster-2021-opt...
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