GT4 - 982 - Questions and advice
Discussion
ThisInJapanese said:
So, oddly I've been nosing around the Spyder over the last few days, as having a soft top would make it more likely to even the most boring drives enjoyable (I had a 986 Boxster S for a few years, and never grew tired of the roof being down).
I went from 718 GT4 to 718 Spyder and glad I did. The GT4 was a great car and really enjoyed my time in it but I don't do track days and most of my miles are either sunny Sunday mornings or Euro tours. The Spyder is a bit softer and just feels more special at "normal" road speeds.The GT4 felt like I was only benefiting from it's ability if I was pushing on which isn't always possible on the road.
You'll be happy with either one!
kmpowell said:
Simon-Blue said:
I was rather fortunate to get this, right place, right time. for me options that are needed -
Carbon Seats - amazing
Sports Exhaust - always a must
Alcantara, full spec with red or yellow stitching
Mine has Xenon (would have preferred Blacked LED's), LEDs would have been perfect
PDK - just love a PDK
non PCCB, I don't intend to track and pricey if something goes wrong
its 2023 - so has CarPlay, I added in a wireless adaptor
I am sure there is other spec, just can't remember
- All cars have a/the "sports exhaust".Carbon Seats - amazing
Sports Exhaust - always a must
Alcantara, full spec with red or yellow stitching
Mine has Xenon (would have preferred Blacked LED's), LEDs would have been perfect
PDK - just love a PDK
non PCCB, I don't intend to track and pricey if something goes wrong
its 2023 - so has CarPlay, I added in a wireless adaptor
I am sure there is other spec, just can't remember
- The Extended Alcantara/Race-tex & leather option came in 3x stitching colours. Silver/grey, yellow, or red. Yellow or red was priced c£400 higher than the silver/grey option.
- LED's weren't blacked. Bi-Xenon came in standard or £900 for the tinted/blacked version. LED's are totally transparent with no blacking/tinting at all.
- All cars come with CarPlay,.
PSE - wasn't sure if thats an option or nor, so std then
The CarPlay was only wired, same as was on my Macan GTS, the Ottobox plug in a great wee thing - very good value
Was the extended Alcantara an option? there seems a lot everywhere, even the the 12 o'clock steering wheel red inset seems extra
Lots of Carbon also - surely that was a pricey extra
Individual Climate control - was that standard on a 2023 model?
Is the view to get a GT car (even used) customer must have good buying history? New GT cars yes, but even a used one (albeit like new)
ThisInJapanese said:
If a car comes with PCCB, can I replace them with steel discs and pads? (Assuming that the carbons need replacing of course)
Indeed you can . I remember being at JZM and Russ there told me they have boxes of them stored for customers who replace with steels then put the PCCB's back on when selling the car.
Regarding the seat choice, I had an extended test drive in a car with buckets and found after about half an hour I couldn't get comfortable. I was gutted as I really wanted them but they failed my test of whether I'd be regretting the choice before I'd even got to the tunnel on my next Euro trip.
My other gripe is lack of climate control on many cars. Earlier this year before I bought my current car (GTS 4.0), 50% of the GT4s and 40% of the GTSs on Autotrader didn't have it, despite many having other cosmetic options like carbon illuminated door sill covers!
I think many original owners who spec'd these cars from new and possibly the sales people who took their order didn't understand that the main benefit of the "dual zone climate control" option is not the dual zone bit, it's the climate control bit. Without it, you only have manual aircon with no climate control.
My other gripe is lack of climate control on many cars. Earlier this year before I bought my current car (GTS 4.0), 50% of the GT4s and 40% of the GTSs on Autotrader didn't have it, despite many having other cosmetic options like carbon illuminated door sill covers!
I think many original owners who spec'd these cars from new and possibly the sales people who took their order didn't understand that the main benefit of the "dual zone climate control" option is not the dual zone bit, it's the climate control bit. Without it, you only have manual aircon with no climate control.
Simon-Blue said:
Was the extended Alcantara an option? there seems a lot everywhere, even the the 12 o'clock steering wheel red inset seems extra
Yes it was an option. It’s extended alcantara/race-tex & leather with stitch through the whole cabin (doors, complete dash, tunnel etc). Essential IMO as it gets rid of the nasty plastic dash & tunnel. It cost c£1200 with the silver stitch, c£1700 with yellow or red stitch. Red or yellow 12 o’clock steering wheel marker was c£150.
Simon-Blue said:
Lots of Carbon also - surely that was a pricey extra
Individual Climate control - was that standard on a 2023 model?
Carbon trim through the cabin door/dash/tunnel panels was c£1000. Individual Climate control - was that standard on a 2023 model?
Very little became standard through the production run. From memory, MY23 got cruise control and rear parking sensors added as standard, but that’s it.
BAMoFo said:
kmpowell said:
Carbon trim through the cabin door/dash/tunnel panels was c£1000.
Very little became standard through the production run. From memory, MY23 got cruise control and rear parking sensors added as standard, but that s it.
Carbon trim was £471 plus VAT on my 2023 GT4. Very little became standard through the production run. From memory, MY23 got cruise control and rear parking sensors added as standard, but that s it.
Ive had my 981 GT4 for a few months now. I couldnt stretch to a 718 so didnt look at one but for me I wanted the better engine note and rawness of the 981.
Mine has PCCB which are amazing but noisy. I also have the buckets which are a PIA to get in and out of but they look great and are comfortable. Im 5ft 10 and a little portly at 15st but I fit OK. I have buggered hips so I do get some hip pain.
It has no Chrono but does have extended leather and alcantara which is rather nice. The extra 12v of the smokers pack would be good but I use the USB port in the glove box for the phone.
Im sure I would have loved the 718 too but for me the 981 exceeds my expectations as a car I can enjoy at all speeds. Its the slowest car I have owned for a while (Stage 2 M2 and a F Tyre R 575 before) but the Jag was just boring and in many ways too fast to enjoy.
Mine has PCCB which are amazing but noisy. I also have the buckets which are a PIA to get in and out of but they look great and are comfortable. Im 5ft 10 and a little portly at 15st but I fit OK. I have buggered hips so I do get some hip pain.
It has no Chrono but does have extended leather and alcantara which is rather nice. The extra 12v of the smokers pack would be good but I use the USB port in the glove box for the phone.
Im sure I would have loved the 718 too but for me the 981 exceeds my expectations as a car I can enjoy at all speeds. Its the slowest car I have owned for a while (Stage 2 M2 and a F Tyre R 575 before) but the Jag was just boring and in many ways too fast to enjoy.
I had a fairly low spec in terms of options 718GT4 and moved to an extremely well spec'd 4RS.
The GT4 had everything I needed though.
You don't need PCCB's on the road, the dual climate is nice but it's a small cabin, Bose.... Hmmm, I don't think this is deal breaker but it's definitely a nice to have, buckets would be a must for me in a GT car, cage/clubsport not essential, LED/PDLS 100% yes.
The GT4 had everything I needed though.
You don't need PCCB's on the road, the dual climate is nice but it's a small cabin, Bose.... Hmmm, I don't think this is deal breaker but it's definitely a nice to have, buckets would be a must for me in a GT car, cage/clubsport not essential, LED/PDLS 100% yes.
TrevorHill said:
I would budget for £1500 to £2K at an OPC, though you could use this as a negotiating tool in any prospective purchase.
As above. Plan for the worst and hope for the best but shop around. Dealers set their own prices so if you're fortunate enough to have a few dealers around you then play them off each other.You could most probably double that price if you need brakes.
scrounger73 said:
As above. Plan for the worst and hope for the best but shop around. Dealers set their own prices so if you're fortunate enough to have a few dealers around you then play them off each other.
You could most probably double that price if you need brakes.
The brakes looked OK, the front discs and pads looked brand new. I will also ring my local Indie to see what they will price the service at. You could most probably double that price if you need brakes.
Having spark plugs changed every 4 years especially on low mileage cars is crazy. Life expectancy of modern plugs is what 60k. I went over 30k and 7 years on my old JCW and plugs were still ok although they also say change every 4 years. These service intervals are based on cars doing 20k every 2 years so 40k to change spark plugs every 4 years which seems right.
I think the most important thing to change and at least every year is the air filter and a lot of dealers across the cars I have owned don t both to replace if miles are low hence I now always do my self and clean the airbox out at the same time which is another thing they don t both to do even if they replace the filter!
So I wouldn’t be surprised to find on low miles cars they are charging for new plugs but not actually replacing!
I think the most important thing to change and at least every year is the air filter and a lot of dealers across the cars I have owned don t both to replace if miles are low hence I now always do my self and clean the airbox out at the same time which is another thing they don t both to do even if they replace the filter!
So I wouldn’t be surprised to find on low miles cars they are charging for new plugs but not actually replacing!
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