GT4 - 982 - Questions and advice

[kmpowell]

ThisInJapanese said:

kmpowell said:

ThisInJapanese said:

Merry Christmas to me

Absolutely stunning! Merry Christmas to you, indeed!

I know the Porsche side-decals divide opinion, but I personally love them when in silver, done to match silver wheels. So much so, I ve specced exactly that on my incoming GT3.

The photo doesn't quite show it, but they are grey, which matches the stitching and the seatbelt. It works really well against the green.

Without wishing to be 'that guy', unless you have the 'Exclusive' stitching option, then the stitching on your car is "silver"...



Same with side decals, they look grey, but they are called "silver", albeit yours are aftermarket (as Porsche didn't offer side script on 718 Spyder/GT4) so could be called Grey. Same same though...



Either way, IMO your car looks utterly fantastic!

[ThisInJapanese]

Interesting ! The dealer said it was crayon, but I'm not that fussed as it works well together.

Thanks for the info though

[kmpowell]

ThisInJapanese said:

Interesting ! The dealer said it was crayon, but I'm not that fussed as it works well together.

Thanks for the info though

It may well be crayon, as that was colour option for the expensive ‘exclusive’ stitching option, especially as your car is also expensive PTS. But, Crayon stitch is more beige than grey…

My OCD now needs to know, what does your spec sheet say?

[ThisInJapanese]

kmpowell said:

It may well be crayon, as that was colour option for the expensive exclusive stitching option, especially as your car is also expensive PTS. But, Crayon stitch is more beige than grey

My OCD now needs to know, what does your spec sheet say?

How do I get a spec sheet on a used car?

[kmpowell]

ThisInJapanese said:

How do I get a spec sheet on a used car?

The easiest way to do it, is to add your car to your My Porsche app. If you don’t have the My Porsche app, download it, then go to your garage, press add vehicle, then enter the VN number. It will then suck all the information from Porsche, and you’ll be able to see exactly what options are on your car.

[ThisInJapanese]

kmpowell said:

The easiest way to do it, is to add your car to your My Porsche app. If you don t have the My Porsche app, download it, then go to your garage, press add vehicle, then enter the VN number. It will then suck all the information from Porsche, and you ll be able to see exactly what options are on your car.

Got it! It's Silver.

It's also downloaded a couple of photos from when it was being built.

[kmpowell]

ThisInJapanese said:

Got it! It's Silver.

It's also downloaded a couple of photos from when it was being built.

Good stuff, glad I could help.

Is there anything else on the car which you didn't realise was optional and/or was on there?

Yes you'll see the build pictures, and it'll also allow you to control the car with any services you may have active.

[ThisInJapanese]

kmpowell said:

ThisInJapanese said:

Got it! It's Silver.

It's also downloaded a couple of photos from when it was being built.

Good stuff, glad I could help.

Is there anything else on the car which you didn't realise was optional and/or was on there?

Yes you'll see the build pictures, and it'll also allow you to control the car with any services you may have active.

I think I know what everything else is. Buckets, manual and ideally climate and LEDs is all I cared about.

[Mark83]

Congratulations on the new car, OP!

I need a sense check that a 718 GT4 Clubsport would be a 'sensible' choice for my needs. I've aspired to own a GT product since the 996 GT3 was released and anything I buy would ultimately be a stepping stone to a GT4/3 so why not just bite the bullet and jump in to a GT4 now. I want something depreciation resistant. Practically isn't that high on the list as we have a practical car for the family duties but I want some luxuries like doors and roof. I'd like to get back into trackdays. I'm booked on to a 'ring trackday (DN) in May. It'll also be used occasionally during the week. My wife's car is full of modern tech like lane assist which annoys me. But I do want some more modern tech like CarPlay for long journeys.

Running costs - the one discussed above are as expected and I'm used to such as I've owned and tracked M cars and AMGs.

An OPC car with two years' warranty is appealing.

I'll caveat this with I've never test driven one. How accommodating are OPCs with what I presume are mileage sensitive cars? I'd be interested to see what the gearing is like in both gearboxes.

Speaking of gearboxes, manual or PDK doesn't bother me but my wife has an auto only licence, however, the chances of her driving it are limited to emergencies only. I've heard stories of clutch life being limited and with the intended track use, is this likely to increase running costs over a PDK? I'm swaying towards PDKs but they're newer and a struggle within the budget. From what I've seen, the gearbox doesn't seem to

I'm not in a rush and looking to buy once the weather improves as the slight premium could easily be negated by not having any running costs while it's in the garage awaiting better weather.

Colours are limited but ones to avoid? I'd rather something more subtle and not too flashy. The black clubsport with silver wheels in Bournemouth OPC is nice but I recall owning a black car years ago and it was a challenge to clean and keep looking nice.

Brakes - the replacement costs of PCCBs are a concern but their longevity and track performance an advantage. Would an OPC measure brake wear prior to a sale on request?

I plan on owning long term so happy to buy the spec I want rather than focusing too much on residuals but something to keep in mind.

[DRH986]

Mark83 said:

I need a sense check that a 718 GT4 Clubsport would be a 'sensible' choice for my needs.

I went through the same decision process this time last year. Mine is strictly a fun car for road use as I have a Caterham 7 for track days. I wanted a GT4 but an extended test drive in a car with the 918 buckets made me realise I'd seriously regret it well before I'd even got to the tunnel on our next Euro trip. Others have no problems with the buckets so strongly recommend an extended test drive to find out.

Another practical consideration is ground clearance. I ended up buying a GTS 4.0 but still had clearance problems with car parks at several hotels on our first Euro trip in it. My friend who owns my old 987S Cayman ripped the (standard fitment) front lip completely off the car at one of the hotel car parks we used. The rear splitters also get a serious battering on the GT4 (apparently even more so on the 4RS with front lift). Euro trips are a significant part of our use and avoiding multi-storey hotel car parks would be a challenge.

My other gripe is that many GT4s (and also GTS) don't have climate control. I lost count of the number of otherwise well specced cars with options like illuminated carbon door sill covers that don't have it. Even a clubsport spec car is towards the comfort end of the automotive spectrum compared with track focused cars like a Caterham so to not have something as basic as climate control these days in a car like this is a non-starter for me. Ditto PDLS headlights (an age-related must-have in my case).

[ThisInJapanese]

Mark83 said:

Congratulations on the new car, OP!

I need a sense check that a 718 GT4 Clubsport would be a 'sensible' choice for my needs. I've aspired to own a GT product since the 996 GT3 was released and anything I buy would ultimately be a stepping stone to a GT4/3 so why not just bite the bullet and jump in to a GT4 now. I want something depreciation resistant. Practically isn't that high on the list as we have a practical car for the family duties but I want some luxuries like doors and roof. I'd like to get back into trackdays. I'm booked on to a 'ring trackday (DN) in May. It'll also be used occasionally during the week. My wife's car is full of modern tech like lane assist which annoys me. But I do want some more modern tech like CarPlay for long journeys.

Running costs - the one discussed above are as expected and I'm used to such as I've owned and tracked M cars and AMGs.

An OPC car with two years' warranty is appealing.

I'll caveat this with I've never test driven one. How accommodating are OPCs with what I presume are mileage sensitive cars? I'd be interested to see what the gearing is like in both gearboxes.

Speaking of gearboxes, manual or PDK doesn't bother me but my wife has an auto only licence, however, the chances of her driving it are limited to emergencies only. I've heard stories of clutch life being limited and with the intended track use, is this likely to increase running costs over a PDK? I'm swaying towards PDKs but they're newer and a struggle within the budget. From what I've seen, the gearbox doesn't seem to

I'm not in a rush and looking to buy once the weather improves as the slight premium could easily be negated by not having any running costs while it's in the garage awaiting better weather.

Colours are limited but ones to avoid? I'd rather something more subtle and not too flashy. The black clubsport with silver wheels in Bournemouth OPC is nice but I recall owning a black car years ago and it was a challenge to clean and keep looking nice.

Brakes - the replacement costs of PCCBs are a concern but their longevity and track performance an advantage. Would an OPC measure brake wear prior to a sale on request?

I plan on owning long term so happy to buy the spec I want rather than focusing too much on residuals but something to keep in mind.

Thanks, I'm still struggling to believe that it's mine to be honest!

The things I learnt during the process.

- OPCs are mostly happy to allow you to drive the car and answer questions, but the quality was varied between the different dealers I looked at. One in particular being shocking...
- I didn't like PDK at all, I found it to be quite unengaging and felt that the 'box in my Alpine A110 was a better box when you consider how it suited the car. The manual in the Spyder is lovely, one of the best I've ever used.
- Seats were the big thing for me. I found the 18 way comfort seats, and the carbon folding seats were too high. I loved how low the carbon buckets sit, but it's a very personal thing, so I would suggest you drive both if possible.
- Given my experience OPCs are willing to do deals on cars, there are tools on AutoTrader that will tell you how long they have had the car, and the price changes the car has been through.
- Colours are personal, mine is a Paint to Sample (An £8k option!!), but I like it, so I'm happy with it.
- I didn't like the idea of PCCBs as the cost of replacement was horrible, and there are some people who say they can wear out, so I didn't want that risk.

[ThisInJapanese]

DRH986 said:

I went through the same decision process this time last year. Mine is strictly a fun car for road use as I have a Caterham 7 for track days. I wanted a GT4 but an extended test drive in a car with the 918 buckets made me realise I'd seriously regret it well before I'd even got to the tunnel on our next Euro trip. Others have no problems with the buckets so strongly recommend an extended test drive to find out.

Another practical consideration is ground clearance. I ended up buying a GTS 4.0 but still had clearance problems with car parks at several hotels on our first Euro trip in it. My friend who owns my old 987S Cayman ripped the (standard fitment) front lip completely off the car at one of the hotel car parks we used. The rear splitters also get a serious battering on the GT4 (apparently even more so on the 4RS with front lift). Euro trips are a significant part of our use and avoiding multi-storey hotel car parks would be a challenge.

My other gripe is that many GT4s (and also GTS) don't have climate control. I lost count of the number of otherwise well specced cars with options like illuminated carbon door sill covers that don't have it. Even a clubsport spec car is towards the comfort end of the automotive spectrum compared with track focused cars like a Caterham so to not have something as basic as climate control these days in a car like this is a non-starter for me. Ditto PDLS headlights (an age-related must-have in my case).

The front spoiler on the Spyder is a little shorter than the GT4, so it does help a bit, but you still have to be aware that it's low.

The spec of some of the cars is a thing of confusion I agree. I'm sure some people ordered a car and didn't realise that dual-sided climate was an option. I guess many cars were specced in Covid, so they didn't have a lot of face to face time with the dealer.

[TrevorHill]

ThisInJapanese said:

The front spoiler on the Spyder is a little shorter than the GT4, so it does help a bit, but you still have to be aware that it's low.

Look at the front spoiler as being a disposable item. They’re not that expensive and easy to replace. It’s a DIY job.

[DRH986]

ThisInJapanese said:

The spec of some of the cars is a thing of confusion I agree. I'm sure some people ordered a car and didn't realise that dual-sided climate was an option.

If you don't spec dual zone climate control, you don't get any climate control - just manual adjustment of cabin temperature and fan settings. I'm still subsribed to the Porsche GB email notifications for GT4 and GTS 4.0 cars coming into their network. Tonight's email lists a new GTS 4.0 with all the usual comfort extras like Bose and 18 way seats, plus seat backrests in leather, leather covered steering column casing, leather door sill covers, carbon illuminated door sills. But no climate!

Edited by DRH986 on Saturday 3rd January 20:36

[ThisInJapanese]

Cruise control was another option that's not on a lot of cars.

[DRH986]

ThisInJapanese said:

Cruise control was another option that's not on a lot of cars.

Yes but at least it's easy to fit retrospectively.

[Simon-Blue]

DRH986 said:

If you don't spec dual zone climate control, you don't get any climate control - just manual adjustment of cabin temperature and fan settings. I'm still subsribed to the Porsche GB email notifications for GT4 and GTS 4.0 cars coming into their network. Tonight's email lists a new GTS 4.0 with all the usual comfort extras like Bose and 18 way seats, plus seat backrests in leather, leather covered steering column casing, leather door sill covers, carbon illuminated door sills. But no climate!

Edited by DRH986 on Saturday 3rd January 20:36

I have one, only had 2 months but ultra low miles and has all that you would like. I am awaiting a Turbo, so this was a stop gap from my OPC. It doesn't have 18 way but the bucket seats (which are amazing). has BOSE, Dual Climate, red sticthing and loads more.

It's fully blacked out and has 2400 miles at the moment (Sept 23 car and has OPC warranty up until Sept 2028). If a 992.1 Turbo S comes on locally that may tempt me out, but 992.2 Turbo is what I want and I am top of the list. I will list privately when time comes as it's too good for a dealer.

[J-P]

Just picked up a lovely low mileage GT4 yesterday. Generally really happy with it - one quick question. When at high revs moving from second to third gear there's a bit of rev hang like the clutch is slipping but the car only has 13,000mls on it. Is this something that others have experienced?

[john_1983]

J-P said:

Just picked up a lovely low mileage GT4 yesterday. Generally really happy with it - one quick question. When at high revs moving from second to third gear there's a bit of rev hang like the clutch is slipping but the car only has 13,000mls on it. Is this something that others have experienced?

I think even with the rev-matching/auto-blip button off the car still does it to an extent to smooth out gearchanges

[Mark83]

Does OPC supply tend to increase in the spring? There's only five AUC Clubsports at the moment, none of which float my boat.