Show your 924, 944 and 968 car

Show your 924, 944 and 968 car

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james.a.c.911

231 posts

68 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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ChrisW. said:
james.a.c.911 said:
is that a genuine cup car?
Doesit get driven a lot?
looks awesome.
It's new to me, it has lived most of its life in Italy ... just registered in the UK.

As with most of us, waiting for better weather !
Fantastic - if you’ve owned a standard 944T before it would be great to hear how it compares?
I would follow with great interest if you started a thread...

I’ve toyed with the idea of buying one vs building a 944T hot rod (I look at 944T Cups and 996.2 GT3 on the regular, and a 944T Cup car would feel more special)

ChrisW.

6,299 posts

255 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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I have only owned a 924 Carrera GTS which I have to say, was unreliable so I sold it.

I've been asked to write something for the Race register of PCGB and will ... but I need to get to know the car first.

That said, I have just retired so am hopeful of the time and opportunity to do this ... and much more ...

I shared the drive of a 968CS race car for a time ... this should be a lot of fun smile


james.a.c.911

231 posts

68 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Sounds like you’ve had your share of fun with transaxles!
Is the idea to race this one or track days?

Will the PCGB piece be on the PCGB forum? If so I’ll look out for it!

james.a.c.911

231 posts

68 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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blade7 said:
Depends what you mean by a 'hot rod'. If you want something to actually drive fast, build a 3.0 16v or a 3.0 8v engine, chuck out some weight,and fit something like KW's/Motons/Ohlins. And I reckon it would eat a turbo Cup. Or if you're an anorak/investor, buy a Cup that's probably been bashed back into shape at some point in it's life to sell. And just talk about it.

Edited by blade7 on Monday 4th January 18:31
Yes, that’s what I mean by hot rod - and it’s effectively what I’ve been doing to my 996. My old 944 T had chip, dual port wastegate, manual boost control, urated turbo, Koni suspension etc. And was really good; but I never when all out and kind of wish I had now.

Think it’s a bit harsh to assume anyone that appreciates the racing history and uniqueness of a cup is an anorak that just talks about it and doesn’t drive.. that being said, my question was really about how expensive it would be to replicate the Cup parts. For example I know the cup magnesium wheels are really expensive - are there any other special rare bits to it (think the engine had more power)

dinkel

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26,939 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th January 2021
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Racing parts are nuts because it's low volume production.

I once went out in a Mitsu Evo6 with 20k suspension. Blimey... If you also want steering rack, lightweight parts, buckets, braking upgrade, exhaust, remapping, cams and god knows what the bill will be close to 60-100k...

redrabbit

1,392 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Here's mine, currently in for a healthy dose of TLC to make it (nearly) perfect...


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Question though... What's the received wisdom on tyres for 15" rims if you don't want to drop £300 a corner on 215/60/15s that aren't Firestones? Are 205/65/15s ok?

CedricN

820 posts

145 months

Sunday 31st January 2021
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I like the raw driving experience of the early cars, and the iron block engines, with the 924T being the sweet spot of all the transaxle cars. But we all value different things and properties of the cars we own, i like the others in the family aswell aswell smile

My car, upgraded a litte bit, more suitable suspension setup, about 240ish hp, wiechers roll bar, seat etc. A blast on the road and track! Bought it in 2006 and I wont let it go, it only gets better and better smile






Buttmonkey

453 posts

223 months

Sunday 31st January 2021
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My old CS, really should never sold it, great car


dinkel

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26,939 posts

258 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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I can so much imagine owners won't let their transaxle cars go...

james.a.c.911

231 posts

68 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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CedricN said:
I like the raw driving experience of the early cars, and the iron block engines, with the 924T being the sweet spot of all the transaxle cars. But we all value different things and properties of the cars we own, i like the others in the family aswell aswell smile

My car, upgraded a litte bit, more suitable suspension setup, about 240ish hp, wiechers roll bar, seat etc. A blast on the road and track! Bought it in 2006 and I wont let it go, it only gets better and better smile





looks lolvely mate

PTT

664 posts

121 months

Saturday 13th February 2021
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crusty

752 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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I have just bought this little beauty


dinkel

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26,939 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Is that a 2.5 car?

crusty

752 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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dinkel said:
Is that a 2.5 car?

james0

313 posts

206 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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She's a bit rough round the edges and many shades of black but mechanically pretty spot on.

dinkel

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26,939 posts

258 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Insta folks seem to like this one:

james0

313 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Ok, not a great pic but I'm not near the car at the moment, it's awaiting an update though

Edited by james0 on Wednesday 24th February 15:04

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james0

313 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Actually that engine pic is a bit embarrassing. It needs a good tidy up. The engine has been together around ten years and has lots of redundant wiring and things have changed over the years.

Hopefully I'll have time to give it a refresh when I swap the turbo.

Waylander

26 posts

100 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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all shiny before a charity show for end of life care, and the Saratoga Glass roof is in

james0

313 posts

206 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Yes, standard 968 pistons, turbo conrods. The 16v pistons with the 8v head drop the compression ratio.
I'm going to measure the volumes but it should (if what I've read is correct give a CR of around 8.65-1. Swapping to a 1.4mm head gasket should drop it down to 8.45 ish. Assuming my measurements match what i dug up elsewhere.
When it was last on a rolling road it was iirc 258ish bhp on the original waste gate spring.
Since then I sorted the closed loop boost control and I've had the max boost limit turned up to to 1bar and target of .9bar for years. As you can see from the pics it's not been apart in ten years.
The current turbo k26/6 as you know is too small but on the road it's not at high boost for long enough to matter too much but I'm aware it's far from ideal. The k27/8 should be a better match.